Andrea Casiraghi and Tatiana Santo Domingo expecting first child for 2013

[Fürstin Taxis]

Flower Power Cherry Casiraghi Santo Domingo. Why not?
I think they will honor their grandparents and maybe if it´s a son, they will name him Stefano, too.

 

[martina]

somewhat i was expecting this since the engagement, but i am really happy that is finally official! Caroline must be so happy to be a grandma!

i hope this is the begining of more pregnancies for Monaco^^

i think it will be a boy! what do you guys think? Girl or Boy?

I think they will have a boy. Tatiana looks beautiful.

 

[Empress Merel]

Congrats to them! Tatiana looks very good and healthy. Her skin is radiant.

 

[NGalitzine]

I wonder why they don't go ahead and have the legal civil marriage ceremony ahead of the birth so the child will be born legit? It could be a small private affair at the palace in Monaco. They could still have any religious ceremony at a later date if that is what they want, but it would be nice for a prospective heir to be born to a legally married couple.

 

[debrann]

It would be a nice birthday present for Caroline, the bubs might even be born on her birthday 23 Jan

 

[Artemisia]

I wonder why they don't go ahead and have the legal civil marriage ceremony ahead of the birth so the child will be born legit? It could be a small private affair at the palace in Monaco. They could still have any religious ceremony at a later date if that is what they want, but it would be nice for a prospective heir to be born to a legally married couple.

I guess partially because it's not that of a big issue in Monaco. Any child of theirs born before marriage will be legitimised after it with no consequences for his/her succession rights, so they are perhaps following the example of Tessy and Louis of Luxembourg.

 

[Frelinghighness]

She looked pregnant in the engagement pictures.
I too wish they would marry before the baby is born as Caroline did with wedding #2 &#3.

 

[lazuli]

Flower Power Cherry Casiraghi Santo Domingo. Why not?
I think they will honor their grandparents and maybe if it´s a son, they will name him Stefano, too.

Lovely suggestion Fürstin but Pierre is already Ranier Stefano,
Andrea himself is also Albert Pierre. This in case the baby is a boy. If the baby turns out to be a girl, well, Charlotte is named after her great grandmother, P. Caroline is also named Louise Marguerite after her two grandmothers... Difficult... The baby could be named Henri as Prince Ranier or Patricia like princess Grace, for example...
By the way, love the hippy name: HSH Princess Flower...

 

[Marika86]

Andrea Casiraghi's fiancée Tatiana Santo Domingo is pregnant - hellomagazine.com

 

[Archduchess Zelia]

Wonderful news, congratulations to Andrea and Tatiana!

 

[camelot23ca]

I wonder why they don't go ahead and have the legal civil marriage ceremony ahead of the birth so the child will be born legit? It could be a small private affair at the palace in Monaco. They could still have any religious ceremony at a later date if that is what they want, but it would be nice for a prospective heir to be born to a legally married couple.

I agree with this and was wondering the same.

 

[princess gertrude]

Wondered the same thing earlier. Just make things easier down the road when the baby is born, wouldn't it?

 

[kathia_sophia]

hippie name?? im curious...what are the hippie names? for real Flower?

 

[IloveCP]

Congratulations! Great news!

 

[principessa]

For a girl I suggest Grace Caroline Tatjana Casiraghi.

 

[MRSJ]

I wonder why they don't go ahead and have the legal civil marriage ceremony ahead of the birth so the child will be born legit? It could be a small private affair at the palace in Monaco. They could still have any religious ceremony at a later date if that is what they want, but it would be nice for a prospective heir to be born to a legally married couple.

don't they have to married for for the baby to be a "legal" heir?

Andrea Casiraghi's fiancée Tatiana Santo Domingo is pregnant - hellomagazine.com

This article says the baby is heir to the throne but if his parents aren't married when he/she is born, then doesn't that make it impossible for him/her to be heir, like Albert's two other children? Or is different because they will marry?

 

[kathia_sophia]

the baby will be born ilegimate because he/she was born out-of-wedlock (i think its the right spelling), but if both parents marry, then he will be legimate, like it happened with Louis and Tessy, and i think Princess Charlotte was same or was her father, Ranier's Grandfather.
once i read that if Albert was to marry one of his kids mothers, then the child of the mother who'd marry him will be turn legimate and have right to the throne. in the end this didnt happened and he married Charlene.

 

[rosana]

don't they have to married for for the baby to be a "legal" heir?




This article says the baby is heir to the throne but if his parents aren't married when he/she is born, then doesn't that make it impossible for him/her to be heir, like Albert's two other children? Or is different because they will marry?

The baby will be a legitimate heir when the parents marry. That´s what the constitution states.

 

[Empress Merel]

hippie name?? im curious...what are the hippie names? for real Flower?

Bronx Mowgli, Bear, Apple, Moses, Helikopter Inspektor. You name it. (and these names are legit)

I wouldn't be surprised if they went with a more unisex name.

 

[NGalitzine]

don't they have to married for for the baby to be a "legal" heir?




This article says the baby is heir to the throne but if his parents aren't married when he/she is born, then doesn't that make it impossible for him/her to be heir, like Albert's two other children? Or is different because they will marry?

If Tatiana and Andrea marry at a later date, after the birth, the child while born out of wedlock will be legally legitimized and be in the line of succession. I just dont understand why they dont do the civil marriage beforehand. It could be quickly and easily arranged and done in private and than later after the birth they could have a religious service. Caroline went to both her 2nd and 3rd marriages with a bun in the oven, she did not wait until they were born to wed.

 

[crm2317]

I wonder if the baby will be born in Monaco?

There hasn't been an Honore in the family for a while.

 

[Archduchess Zelia]

Wouldn't Marguerite be a cute name for a baby girl? Besides, it's one of Caroline's names and it was Grace Kelly's mother's name (Margaret).

 

[sophie25]

There will be a great interest in this child as it could possibly be the ruler of Monaco one day. Andrea and his wife to be are seeming ever more likely to be elevated to princely status in the future which is something I never ever thought could happen once PA married. I would much prefer to see Charlene have an heir but Tatiana herself must be aware that her life with Andrea may turn out vastly different to what she may have anticipated when they first met. It's all very interesting.

 

[trepstrep]

The baby will be a legitimate heir when the parents marry. That´s what the constitution states.

Exactly.

Of course, by civil modern law it doesn't matter at all whether the parents or a child are married or not. The concept of illegitimate children is extinguished, it is something that simply doesn't exist anymore for the law.

Now, it is different if we are talking about royals, princes and such. Then, theoretically a child has to be "legitimate" to inherit the trone. But it doesn't matter whether the baby is born before or after the marriage. Once the parents get married the baby is legitimated.
It's been like that since the middle ages!

I just dont understand why they dont do the civil marriage beforehand. It could be quickly and easily arranged and done in private and than later after the birth they could have a religious service.

It wouldn't have any sense. By civil law there isn't such a thing as legitimate or illegitimate children. A child has exactly the same rights whether his parents are married or not, so a civil marriage has no sense.

Laws were different years ago. When Caroline had her civil wedding with Stefano, a father didn't have the same rights if he wasn't married to the mother. But nowadays it makes absolutely no difference, legally speaking, whether the parents are married or not.

 

[kathia_sophia]

Bronx Mowgli, Bear, Apple, Moses, Helikopter Inspektor. You name it. (and these names are legit)

I wouldn't be surprised if they went with a more unisex name.

Bronx, i think that Ashlee Simpson son. as for Apple and Moses i think they're Gwyneth Paltrow kids. i didnt know these were hippie names, but all hilarious and funny, but heck Bear? Helikopter Inspektor? i would feel ashamed for life if i had those names.

unisex? i totally agree, Taylor? Hayden? im not sure if these are hippie names, but i guess they're not, and they arent even french names.

 

[Mariel]

is it true all of these people smoke, including Caroline? Maybe that is why she looks old beyond her chronological age (which was apparent at the wedding in Luxembourg, especially in pictures at the cathedral. It is too bad these young people can't drop the smoking, even for having a baby. I dropped smoking long long ago when I nearly passed out and I never smoked another cigarette. Sometimes it takes a shock.

 

[NGalitzine]

It wouldn't have any sense. By civil law there isn't such a thing as legitimate or illegitimate children. A child has exactly the same rights whether his parents are married or not, so a civil marriage has no sense.

Laws were different years ago. When Caroline had her civil wedding with Stefano, a father didn't have the same rights if he wasn't married to the mother. But nowadays it makes absolutely no difference, legally speaking, whether the parents are married or not.

Difference of opinion I guess. Personally if it was within my power I would prefer my children not be born bastards even if they would later be legitimated with marriage. Since they have already announced their intention to marry, why delay it? Why not marry now and have your child be born legitimate and in line to the throne, instead of waiting until after it is born to marry? Why have the kid tagged with the line, "born x months before its parents later marriage" every time it is written about.

 

[HRHHermione]

Difference of opinion I guess. Personally if it was within my power I would prefer my children not be born bastards even if they would later be legitimated with marriage. Since they have already announced their intention to marry, why delay it? Why not marry now and have your child be born legitimate and in line to the throne, instead of waiting until after it is born to marry? Why have the kid tagged with the line, "born x months before its parents later marriage" every time it is written about.

Because it honestly doesn't matter to just about anyone any more. It's seriously just not a big deal.

Also, their child will still be in line to the throne once they marry.

 

[rosana]

Difference of opinion I guess. Personally if it was within my power I would prefer my children not be born bastards even if they would later be legitimated with marriage. Since they have already announced their intention to marry, why delay it? Why not marry now and have your child be born legitimate and in line to the throne, instead of waiting until after it is born to marry? Why have the kid tagged with the line, "born x months before its parents later marriage" every time it is written about.

Because they do with their lives as they please? Because they are not as prudish as you? It is their marriage, not yours. It is you who see a scandal in having child out of wedlock, not them. Even if you don´t state it, it is implicit.

Btw, who use that ugly word bastard nowadays!!!!??

 

[Lumutqueen]

Because they do with their lives as they please? Because they are not as prudish as you? It is their marriage, not yours. It is you who see a scandal in having child out of wedlock, not them. Even if you don´t state it, it is implicit.

Btw, who use that ugly word bastard nowadays!!!!??

Loads of people use the word 'bastard' nowadays, either in context of an illegitimate child of just the general use of the word in a derogatory manner.
Having a child out of wed lock isn't as much as a scandal nowadays, but it still causes a stir in certain circles. Look at Albert.