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Old 03-27-2013, 10:26 PM
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Actually, when you give birth at the Portland and you are readying to go home, you are given (among a a lot of other lovely things) a bottle of champagne! And you can drink it inside the hospital. Smoking, of course, is different!!
What I find funny is that they are celebrating in front of the hospital in an area that is quite small and where cars need to go drop-off and pick up patients (including women in labor!) and in front of a very busy street. This said, I think it just shows how happy and comfortable they all feel! Congratulations to them. Andrea looks tired - just like any new dad having probably slept VERY little in the previous few days. (I wonder when were these pictures taken?)

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NOVAGENTE.pt:. Real : Tatiana e Andrea Casiraghi:Primeira consulta de Sacha

This article of portuguese magazine Nova Gente has pic of Tatiana and Andrea leaving the hospital this wednesday after an appoitment with the doctor. They also refer the fact that Portland is close to Notting Hill, where the couple must have an house. Notting Hill was also the place where the baby shower (we saw a pic from instagram) took place and is also where Muzungu Sisters is located
The picture above is taken on the same street of the Portland, in fact, it's right across the street, where a lot of pediatricians and other specialists affiliated with hospital have their practice.

The Portland is about 3 miles (4.5km) from Notting Hill.

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Seeing charlotte sitting on a filthy street and the cigarette ugh! Happy for the healthy baby.
Do they normally live in London or just live all over?
Actually, she is sitting right outside the hospital's main entrance in aan area within the hospital, certainly not filthy (the whole place is spotless!). as far as the cigarette, yes I agree, I wish people didn't smoke - especially close to a maternal/children hospital, with many babies and pregnant women coming and going.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:31 PM
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MAybe its in the car park, maybe they are celebrating as a group of friends together because after this moment they are going their different ways, maybe maybe maybe.... maybe we should not be so critical and just enjoy.

And preferably stick to the happiness of these people and stop raking over the past.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:34 PM
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When in Rome.....

Drinking and smoking outside the hospital looks odd to an American's eyes because it's just not done here. First of all, most hospitals that I know of allow no smoking whatsoever, even in its outdoor property, and drinking out on a public street is not allowed. The average happy American family would celebrate with food; baby blue wrapped chocolate cigars and a visit to the hospital's god-awful food court.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:36 PM
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I think the message is its different the world over, dont be critical of different customs and be happy for the baby and parents.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:36 PM
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When in Rome.....

Drinking and smoking outside the hospital looks odd to an American's eyes because it's just not done here. First of all, most hospitals that I know of allow no smoking whatsoever, even in its outdoor property, and drinking out on a public street is not allowed. The average happy American family would celebrate with food; baby blue wrapped chocolate cigars and a visit to the hospital's god-awful food court.
America has a lot of different cultures, as you well know. I'm an American, and like I said, in my part of the country, this would be totally acceptable.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:37 PM
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When in Rome.....

Drinking and smoking outside the hospital looks odd to an American's eyes because it's just not done here. First of all, most hospitals that I know of allow no smoking whatsoever, even in its outdoor property, and drinking out on a public street is not allowed. The average happy American family would celebrate with food; baby blue wrapped chocolate cigars and a visit to the hospital's god-awful food court.
I agree. Plus, there's so much traffic and pollution in front of that hospital that a cigarette probably wouldn't hurt anybody!! This said, it would be much more respectful not to smoke.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:39 PM
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I agree. Plus, there's so much traffic and pollution in front of that hospital that a cigarette probably wouldn't hurt anybody!! This said, it would be much more respectful not to smoke.
I dont get "respectful" not to smoke - respectful of whom? It's allowed where they were.

It is respectful of all of us to accept different norms the world over.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:41 PM
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America has a lot of different cultures, as you well know. I'm an American, and like I said, in my part of the country, this would be totally acceptable.
Indeed, but NOLA is an entity unto itself in so many ways.

As I said, the laws in the states where I have lived prohibit it, so it's just not done, so it looks odd to see it. I'm not putting a value judgment on it, just saying it's unusual to see for most Americans.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:43 PM
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Indeed, but NOLA is an entity unto itself in so many ways.

As I said, the laws in the states where I have lived prohibit it, so it's just not done, so it looks odd to see it. I'm not putting a value judgment on it, just saying it's unusual to see for most Americans.
Absolutely true. And I lived in Atlanta for a few years as well, so I know it's just not done there.

I found that so strange when I first lived there.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:02 AM
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Andrea and Tatiana visiting the hospital
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:13 AM
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LOL those are some wonderful celebration photos. This kid will have lots of love from family and friends of his family, for sure. One thing's certain, this kid will have more fun in his life by the time he's five than all judgmental, self-righteous people here will ever have in their whole lives.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:16 AM
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Off-topic posts about members of the British Royal Family have been removed. In addition to that this thread is not about smoking and drinking habits and prohibitions around the world but about the birth of a baby - let us please concentrate on that instead.
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:27 AM
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I was surprised to see Alex in the hospital photos. I tend to think it was more a chance encounter given his girlfriend is also expecting a baby. I know he is a close friend of the couple but I wouldn't think it likely he would have been invited to the hospital to share in such a family occasion. Charlotte & he have both moved on, but after such a long relationship, sharing a "family" moment again must have felt a little strange for each of them.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:52 AM
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In the pic where Pierre is having a big cigare there is a guy. Same ne in another pic is holding a bottle. Who is that guy?Never saw before.
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:18 AM
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In the pic where Pierre is having a big cigare there is a guy. Same ne in another pic is holding a bottle. Who is that guy?Never saw before.
Could be Julio Mario Santo Domingo Jr? Tatiana's brother?

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I was surprised to see Alex in the hospital photos. I tend to think it was more a chance encounter given his girlfriend is also expecting a baby. I know he is a close friend of the couple but I wouldn't think it likely he would have been invited to the hospital to share in such a family occasion. Charlotte & he have both moved on, but after such a long relationship, sharing a "family" moment again must have felt a little strange for each of them.
Not strange imo, as you've said, both have moved on and I would think that the relationship between them had ran it's course but not the friendship.

Also, I've been wondering if the boy is going to be baptised in the royal chapel of Palais Princier.Hope to see see some pics of the new family in Monaco on May, during ths F1 season.Wishful thinking.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:35 AM
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God, what do they look like drinking and smoking in the street like that. I don't care what the occasion is it looks so common. When my own two kids were born none of my family would have dreamed of hanging around the hospital doing that. To think that if Charlene dosn't have a child this is what will be taking over Monaco.
My sentiments exactly. Which is why they don't have the respect of some/most of the other royal houses.

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Old 03-28-2013, 09:41 AM
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My sentiments exactly. Which is why they don't have the respect of some/most of the other royal houses.

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And yet those supposedly disapproving other royal houses manage to show up for funerals, weddings and other events in Monaco and invite the Grimaldis to events in their own countries, none of which they are compelled to do.
They were celebrating the birth of a child, generally considered a happy event, in a way that is not uncommon at all in the UK or elsewhere.

Get with the spirit of the thread!! Share a little happiness, you might like it
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:49 AM
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Charlotte's ex boyfriends have suddenly come to the surfice again!! Felix in the Rose Ball and now Alex!!
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I would actually say that in a way, you're both right.

There is such thing as illegitimate children, pretty much regardless of where you go. Illegitimate children are children who are born out of wedlock and remain that way - a child can be retroactively legitimized (at least in some countries) through the marriage of their parents.

The fact that British law uses the term "illegitimate" in reference to such children means that the concept exists. It doesn't mean that they don't have equal rights to legitimate children - and they do - it just means that they are recognized legally as being illegitimate.
I guess you're partly right, Ish. The concept od "illegitimate" children doesn't exist everywhere. It doesn't exist for sure in Spain or France, the 2 countries I know better about (I mean, everybody knows what it means, like many ancient legal terms, but it is not "legal" anymore, and it doesn't apply to "modern" children.
My mistake was that I just asumed that things were the same in the UK.

But after researching a bit the british law, it's obvious that the term "illegitimate" is still in use in the british legal jargon, even if the children have the same rights than "legitimate" ones.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:06 PM
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In the pic where Pierre is having a big cigare there is a guy. Same ne in another pic is holding a bottle. Who is that guy?Never saw before.
He is Andrea Stefanowicz Sabrier, a friend of the set for a long time. His presence proves that not only family came to see Tatiana but also close friends, which explains Alex's presence there. Nothing surprising at all.
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