William, Harry and girlfriends and the press

[Mermaid1962]

Hmmmm....seems to me that Party Pieces was quite a successful business before we ever heard of Kate.

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

the truth is that kate is the best thing that has ever happened to carole's business, how hypocritical of her to complain.

[Little_star]

Originally Posted by Incas

I think it's both funny and sad that the Daily Mail changed the story's headline to focus on glimps of Kate's bra: Royal wardrobe malfunction for Kate Middleton as the hairy one to the throne looks on | Mail Online. The headline was "Late Night Date for Kate Middleton and Her Prince (but what's with the beard)", which was focused on William's beard. The byline was "Daily Mail Reporter", which means anonymous. In another time, the writer (male or female) would be called lecherous.

Of course blame the paper for Kate's bra being on show. She had nothing to do with it of course

[Mermaid1962]

Yes...neck-high paper-bag camisoles. She might start a new trend.

Originally Posted by Skydragon

She probably also possesses a paper bag, perhaps she should use that to avoid upsetting the 'apparent' puritans on this forum!

[kimebear]

I see some have had their claws sharpened today.

I have removed some of the more snippy personal attacks.

[Little_star]

Originally Posted by kimebear

While I'm sure that there are amazing clubs in London that are not besieged by paps at the present, it stands to reason that the minute William and Kate start to frequent one regularly, the paps will besiege that one too. W&K are one of the reasons that they haunt Boujis, Mahiki etc after all.

Boujis and Mahiki were celeb haunts before William and Harry found it. I know because I went there before they did and it wasn't uncommon to run into B-listers then.

[kimebear]

That is why I said they were one of the reasons instead of the only reason. My original point being that they would be photographed no matter where they went if they went more than once.

[Little_star]

Well not really.

There are plenty of great bars outside of Kensington and Chelsea; Camden and Shoreditch immediately spring to mind. They choose to go out in the "busiest" and most well-known places.

[kimebear]

Where all it would take is one cellphone call to the Daily Mail by someone drinking at the bar to get the paps rushing over in full force.

[Little_star]

Oh dear.

With all due respect if you think the average person out on a Friday night having fun with friends has nothing better to do than ring the Mail (as if they even have the number to begin with) then you are sadly mistaken.

[kimebear]

And with all due respect, if you do not believe that the paps get most of their photos by being tipped off, then you are also sadly mistaken.

Just because you would never think to do such a mean thing does not mean that there are not a thousand other people who would. Anyone with directory assistance could make that phone call.

[Little_star]

Paparrazzi photographers aren't found using the 118 service under the letter P.

The only reason photographers ever get shots of William and Harry on a night out is because both men choose to frequent clubs and bars that are well-known celeb haunts.

[Menarue]

I am sorry Little Star but in this I think you are wrong, they receive tips and go to where the action is, that is their life.

[kimebear]

Originally Posted by Little_star

Paparrazzi photographers aren't found using the 118 service under the letter P.

The only reason photographers ever get shots of William and Harry on a night out is because both men choose to frequent clubs and bars that are well-known celeb haunts.

So, it is your opinion that when Kate was photographed talking on her cellphone while driving, or when she was photographed at the airport, or picking up her tennis racket at her flat, it is because there are hotspot nightclubs in the bushes, the departure lounge or the flat next door?

Isn't it more likely because the paps follow her and William whenever they can find them wherever they are?

[Roslyn]

Yikes! When I saw that four or so new pages of posts had been generated while I slept last night, I thought that surely there must have been an engagement announcement. Yet they seem to have been triggered by nothing more than a fleeting glimpse of Kate's bra frozen for posterity by a photographer's lens. It really is the silly season!

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by Little_star

Boujis and Mahiki were celeb haunts before William and Harry found it. I know because I went there before they did and it wasn't uncommon to run into B-listers then.

Before William and Harry went to them, they were B-C list places and attracted B-C list so called celebs, since William, Harry and their crowd have been going there, they have moved into the A list visitors. One of the reasons they probably prefer Kensington or Chelsea is that they are considered by many to be reasonably 'safe' areas.

[Incas]

Originally Posted by Little_star

Of course blame the paper for Kate's bra being on show. She had nothing to do with it of course

Almost everyone I know have experienced an accidental moment. The polite thing to do was to ignore the accident and move on. By creating a NEW headline around that photo, and without substantive change to the story--then, YES, I feel the paper is to be blamed for the extra exposure. I prefer to give people the benefit of doubt that their accidents were unintentional and they shouldn't be condemned for being human.

[Incas]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

They knew the rules of the game. Let them reap the consequences now.

Exactly what are the Rules Of The Game? Games are supposed to be fun. Kate and her family are not living on a Monopoly board. Being chased while running errands or photographed getting out of cars are not something you can roll a dice and skip over.

[Al_bina]

The rules of the game is to be properly dressed, smile, and be ready for one's pictures to be taken. Yes, the whole harassment situation is unfairly cruel to the Middletons in general and poor Ms. Middleton in particular. Whether Ms. Middleton likes or not, paparazzi is likely to treat her the same way they treat Mrs. Beckham or any other actor/actress/celebrity. She is not a member of the Royal family yet. Royal girlfriends come and go, whereas the British Royal family remains inviolable to a certain extent. As everything in this life, dating a Prince has got its advantages and disadvantages. Ms. Middleton definitely enjoyed perquisites of her position and have to deal with backlash. Nothing more, noting less.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

As for the truth, it is irrelevant now. Are the Middletons going to issue a statement so that the public at large can have an opportunity to know their side of the story? They knew the rules of the game. Let them reap the consequences now.

Am I missing a trick? Their side of what story? What rules, what game, what consequences? I am afraid you are going to have to elucidate for me. I really am not sure what you are on about.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

The rules of game is to be properly dressed, smile, and be ready for one's pictures to be taken. Yes, the whole harassment situation is unfairly cruel to the Middletons in general and poor Ms. Middleton in particular. Whether Ms. Middleton likes or not, paparazzi is likely to treat her the same way they treat Mrs. Beckham or any other actor/actress/celebrity. She is not a member of the Royal family yet. Royal girlfriends come and go, whereas the British Royal family remains inviolable to a certain extent. As everything in this life, dating a Prince has got its advantages and disadvantages. Ms. Middleton definitely enjoyed perquisites of her position and have to deal with backlash. Nothing more, noting less.

I couldn't have said it better myself. That's an excellent post Al_bina

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