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Old 04-25-2010, 01:07 AM
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What does this have to do with William and Kate?! I, for one, am tired of reading about everyone else but William and Kate and Their engagement.. Am I on the wrong thread??
My apologies if I sound snarky...

The discussion was whether or not William and Kate's marriage would be considered legally-binding if they married civilly, rather than religiously. Examples of members of the BRF marrying civilly first were brought up. Conversation moved from there. If you read back a couple pages you can see where this started and how it was introduced.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:17 AM
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To make the issue simple, the highest legal authority in the UK, the Lord Chancellor ruled that the marriage of Charles and Camilla is legal, therefore it is legal! There is no debate!
You are quite the definitive authority, aren't you?

Debatable doesn't mean challengeable.
What it simply mean is that the discussion is open for arguments and counter-arguments, which this issue certainly is (and was at the time of the event, quite hotly and publicly ).
For the purpose of this forum, this issue is most definitely debatable (but not in this thread). We are not the parliament.

Also, let me point out that judges, even those with pompous names, aren't infallible. The highest authority in this kingdom once found Anne Boylen guilty of witchcraft and incest.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:21 AM
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It's time this subject was dropped from this thread.
Those who wish to continue the discussion can do so in The Marriage
thread in the POW subforum.

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Old 04-25-2010, 06:43 AM
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I hope Kate and Will one day will marry and be happy together.

Nothing is obvious. Look at Sweden, Carl Philip was with his girlfriend for 9 years and they split up. His sister princess Madeleine engaged and now... broke engagement! She was with his guy for 8-9 years. For british tabs and people is so obvious: Kate and Will are dating for years, so move on... But we're never known. Never ending speculations and pressure on Will and Kate don't help.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:48 AM
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^^Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
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Never ending speculations and pressure on Will and Kate don't help.
Quite a courageous statement to make in the Rumour and Musing (third edition) thread.
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A perfect lead-in for a retrospective...

This is post #1 in the first 'Rumours & Musings' thread way back in 2005:
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With all the media attention on William and Kate lately, does it seems that there's too much speculation about their future?
Closing in on five years, much gnashing of teeth, regular outbreaks of fevered tabloid speculation, and well over 5,000 posts later, has anything changed?


The debut post was followed by this, from a concerned member expressing grave doubts about the wisdom of William and Kates' rush to the altar...
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:56 AM
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^^Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.Quite a courageous statement to make in the Rumour and Musing (third edition) thread.

haha I'm just tired od that. I can imagine what Kate and Will think about this when even some of us are tired. I think about the day of engagement, probably I don't believe in the news before I don't see Kate on the balcony.
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Old 04-25-2010, 02:06 PM
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Since this is all about musings and speculation, if William and Kate marry before the Queen dies, will she bestow a dukedom on him and if so, are there any dukedoms available? I'm trying to think of which ones are currently vacant but I'm coming up blank.
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Duke of Cambridge is a good one
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Old 04-25-2010, 02:39 PM
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Cambridge is indeed one that's been bandied about (and it's the one I'm personally hoping for -- the connection with Diana and the Cambridge emeralds would be a nice little touch). I have also heard people suggesting Sussex as a possibility.
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Please continue any discussion regarding a possible dukedom for William here http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...n-6755-28.html .

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Old 04-30-2010, 09:46 PM
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I certainly hope that William does NOT marry Kate Middleton. Since I last posted in this forum, I have come across quite a bit of negative incidents that she was a party to and in my opinion, she is not an appropriate match for him. The latest pictures of her, her sister at that wedding showed that the stress of the relationship is taking its toll on her. William did not look at all happy to be with her. I feel that if they were to marry, it would be a far worse outcome than that of his parents. There have been two other long term relationships involving a royal and a "commoner" that ended because it just didn't work out. Why does the British press think that it would be somehow different for Will and Kate? I think he needs to take a "page out of the book" from Princess Madeline of Sweden and decide with his heart, not bowing to the pressure of the media.
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Where are your sources for these "negative incidents" you speak of? Just curious because nothing has been posted here and usually everything is posted here.

Also, it's a little short-sighted to draw conclusions from a photograph that is essentially the capture of a millisecond of time. We all have photographs where we don't look very good, but it doesn't mean anything overall. Furthermore, if William had "bowed" to the pressures of the media, he and Kate would be married already.

I think you're making a mountain of a molehill.
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What proof do you have of a royal and a commoner not having a happy union? Haakon and Mette-Marit are happily married, as are Willem-Alexander and Maxima. Just because Madeleine did not have a happy ending to her relationship with her fiancee does not mean William can't have a happy one with Kate.
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Indeed. And what about CP.Mary and her husband...
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For the record, I never said that a royal and a commoner could not be happy. I do think it makes it easier if a person is already in that particular social circle as the transition would be easier for the new bride/groom than someone that was not "to the manor born" sort of speak. There are other sources for information about Kate Middleton besides what is posted it in here, including other forums with same topics (ie Royalty).
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There are other sources for information about Kate Middleton besides what is posted it in here, including other forums...
Forums aren't sources of information. They link to or repeat information from elsewhere, or make it up. We've had plenty of the latter here.
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Kate Middleton prepares for her role as a charitable princess - Telegraph

Kate Middleton has been cruelly mocked as "Waity Katie" for the low profile that she has taken while being courted by Prince William. Now, however, she is preparing to take on a more public role.

Mandrake hears that the 28-year-old graduate has let it be known that she will be available to attend events for a number of charities from the autumn. "Kate's name is already down for certain events," says a royal courtier. "She will take a higher profile before the engagement is announced."
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:09 PM
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If this is true, I think Ms. Middleton will be married by 2010's autumn. I still hold to Tina Brown's statement about engagement announced in June.
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