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Old 03-02-2009, 02:56 PM
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They're way past the point of no return, and I'd be shocked if they do not marry -- each other. But the mystery surrounding this relationship, any date(s), and/or intention smells of William's infamous stubborness. I can't be mad at him about it. Since when does anyone who doesn't have his ear about important decisions in his life deserve to be privy to anything, including what color shirt he'll wear on a Saturday.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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Exactly. She's not allowing herself to become a cash cow for the tabloids. If things don't work out with William, this way it's easier as well for her to get on with her life. If she were out and about more, that would be harder.

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I think Catherine through her living out of the limelight shows us exactly what she thinks of people who assume the worst of her if they get no information - she simply ignores them. And that ability not to cater to the public like a celeb but staying quietly and dignified behind closed doors is exactly what "ladylike" means.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:02 PM
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Agreed with both of you -- I think the fact that she's guarding her privacy now means that if things weren't to work out, she'd be able to move on more quietly. Plus, if they do end up getting married, it may also mean that she'll be a dignified royal spouse who won't be granting interviews hither and thither and yon.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:54 PM
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Yea I think staying out of the limelight is better for her than having her pics splashed all over the tabloids. I mean all the tabloids do is rip her apart anyway.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:28 AM
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Exactly. She's not allowing herself to become a cash cow for the tabloids.
Exactly....and that is one of the reasons, IMO, she has been getting bad press for the last 9-12 months. Her steadfast refusal to provide the media with any fodder has to be one of the single biggest reasons for the regular negative media commentary about her.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:30 AM
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I think that William and Kate may well plod along for the next few years in much the same way as Victoria and Daniel did. In could be the case that they love each other enough to think about the long term future and are therefore comfortable with just being together for a while. No one these days wants to rush ahead with getting married just for the sake of it (and in royal terms just to please the tabloids!) and after another couple of years we'll be at the stage Victoria and Daniel were at where an announcement will be expected any time but will still be quite a surprise.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:59 AM
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Sounds very plausible.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:46 AM
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Exactly....and that is one of the reasons, IMO, she has been getting bad press for the last 9-12 months. Her steadfast refusal to provide the media with any fodder has to be one of the single biggest reasons for the regular negative media commentary about her.
the bad press started much earlier - kate used to be untouchable for a long time until she split with william. although they got back together the media started to sense that william might not be as committed as he should be towards a longstanding girlfriend. all of a sudden her partying, shopping, not working etc became a major topic and started to damage her image. unfortunately she did not get the development quickly enough and continued with silly stuff like the roller disco or sisterhood project. it would have been wiser to do back then what she does now: kate nowhere to be seen. somebody is learning a lesson i guess.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:54 AM
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I doubt if Will & Kate were "separated" for more than 3 months, and if that indicated a lack of seriousness on the part of Will, her subsequent presence at a number of key events in his life (RAF Wings, Garter......) ought to have addressed that. As regards the charity involvements, they were just that. If atabloid decides to trash an event, whether it is Trooping the Colour or a charity rioller disco, they can go ahead and do that - and they are answerable only to their dumbded down readers. No rational argument is going to stop them doing that.

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unfortunately she did not get the development quickly enough and continued
Even now that she has virtually disssappeared from public view, the tabloids can't stop from writng silly negative stories about her.... so I think she is doing the right thing and keeping to herself.
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:52 PM
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I agree the only thing for certain is that none of us knows. Some of us get too invested in her future and some of us look at the spectacle at a distance.
If that "princess school" happenned it is either a very recent event or she did not take notes. A princess school instructor would have never allowed her to go roller skating with that sequined number or be seen coming out of night clubs at the wee houres of the morning.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:03 PM
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Treat like what?

Like William's favourite cardigan. She is there when he wants her and makes herself scarce when he is not.
Whats wrong with that? In a lot of relationships that work work,personal space is a key factor. What else are you expecting her to do? Go with him when he is on a military exercise?

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If that "princess school" happenned it is either a very recent event or she did not take notes. A princess school instructor would have never allowed her to go roller skating with that sequined number or be seen coming out of night clubs at the wee houres of the morning.

Let me jog your memory: The roller skating with that sequined number was at a 1980s style themed charity event organised in memory of a deceased friend - nothing wrong with that in my book. If anything, she should have been commended for doing so. However, some tabloids have decided that was inapporpriate because of a picture taken from an unfortunate angle,and as a result, a lot of people appear to be taking that as the gospel.

As regards "seen coming out of night clubs at the wee houres of the morning", I cannot see anything wrong with that. It is not too often, she never appears dishevelled or drunk, she is never seen dressed inapporpriately or doing anything that may be interpreted as ionapporpraite, so whats the problem?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:15 PM
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It is obvious that we have diametrically opposite views on this subject.
A young lady who allows herself to be around when needed and stay away when she is not, in my humble opinion, does not respect herself enough to set some ground rules in a relationship. Much less when we talk about a prince and his classmate. No matter how democratic royal families are becoming, the class difference between those two should be bridged somehow to set the path for a future.
I remember the event and the reason and theme for it. However that did not mean that a lady who may wish to be the next Queen of England had to show up in a pair of hot pants.
It matters not how often or recently anyone showed up sloshed or crawling out of a night club. One picture as they say is worth a 1000 words.
It is not a matter of what I want. I am just a spectator in this and feel free to post my opinion on how I see it. If some see this as admirable behaviour, who am I to contradict them?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:23 PM
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Of course we are all entitled to our opinions, and that is what the purpose of TRF is (in my view), and different views only make for an interesting conversation.

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A young lady who allows herself to be around when needed and stay away when she is not, in my humble opinion, does not respect herself enough to set some ground rules in a relationship. Much less when we talk about a prince and his classmate.
In the context of a relationship between a serving member of the armed forces and his girlfriend, how do you think the relationship should be run differently so that Kate can keep her "respect" and what "ground rules" would you like to see that you believe do not exist? Clearly this conversation is based on the snippet of information about couple that are in the public domain.

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It matters not how often or recently anyone showed up sloshed or crawling out of a night club. One picture as they say is worth a 1000 words.
Are there any such pictures out there that are worth thousand of words?
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:53 PM
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As regards "seen coming out of night clubs at the wee houres of the morning", I cannot see anything wrong with that. It is not too often, she never appears dishevelled or drunk, she is never seen dressed inapporpriately or doing anything that may be interpreted as ionapporpraite, so whats the problem?

On the contrary, I have seen pics of her appearing to be smashed (drunk), and I have also seen pics of her wearing skirts so short her undies were showing. I would post a link, but I don't want to get in trouble for posting something inappropriate.

Those pics were taken during her "split" from William in 2007.

For the record, I am neutral when it comes to Kate. I just wish the media would publish the facts and not look the other way when something good or not happens. In other words, be reporters not PR people!
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:33 AM
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On the contrary, I have seen pics of her appearing to be smashed (drunk), and I have also seen pics of her wearing skirts so short her undies were showing. I would post a link, but I don't want to get in trouble for posting something inappropriate.

Those pics were taken during her "split" from William in 2007.

For the record, I am neutral when it comes to Kate. I just wish the media would publish the facts and not look the other way when something good or not happens. In other words, be reporters not PR people!
If you are confident of your sources, I am sure the moderators would aloow you to post links to the stories and pictures you may be referring to.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:43 AM
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I have seen a couple of photos in the British Press of William and Kate coming out of a night club trying to get into a car last year which was too small for them (they're both quite tall and the car was not a royal car one would expect to pick them up from a night on the tiles) and they kind of struggled to get in. They were laughing and joking and I would guess 4/5th of Kate's bare legs were visable! I cannot vouch for having seen underwear in those photos but wouldn't want to anyway thankyou very much! Nor could I say they were drunk. However, clearly something was amiss that night because I cannot recall any decorum or regality in what they were doing. I really don't mind royals going to night clubs but abit of decorum especially when cameras are present wouldn't go amiss. Don't forget that it seems to be in the British code of conduct these days to get drunk while wearing next to nothing, fall about all over the place as you wait for a taxi and get into the odd fight here and there. It seems that our young royals have occasionally emulated this and are allowed by their parents to act in this way. Talk about dumbed down royals! Goodness only knows what kind of princess school or instruction Kate might get or be getting by the palace flunkies but unfortunately it sure ain't gonna be the same school attended by Daniel Westling, Maxima, Mette-Marit, Letizia, Victoria, or Mary!
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Since the mods say these pics are OK, here are the links of Kate Middleton's too short dresses:


http://www.theinsider.com/news/18062...her_underpants

http://celebrityunderwear.blogspot.c...middleton.html

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...-upskirt-shot/
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All looks clean to me!
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:37 PM
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Maybe Kate should choose some longer dresses when she knows there will be cameras around, but I think the saddest part is that there are photographers who will do things like lay on the sidewalk to try to get a picture up a young woman's skirt. Those pictures aren't just some shot the paparazzi manage to catch -- they're trying to take pictures like those, because they're scandalous and will sell. That's disgusting, if you ask me.
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Well, I suppose it is a relief to us all to know that the possible future queen of Great Britain wears under-garments and that they are not directoires, long johns or boxer shorts

Perhaps if there were stricter rules imposed on journalists and photographers in this country and they were forced to show formal respect to those they are taking pictures of, they would have averted their goggling little eyes and the over-used lenses of their cameras when young ladies are alighting from vehicles!

These pictures do remind me, however, that the fashion industry is taking everyone for a ride by designing and producing clothes made from much less material yet for higher prices! If the credit crunch continues, next season's fashion designs will compose of little more than a yard (if that) of ribbon and a couple of teabag and the price will be twice as much as Kate's skirts!
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