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Old 01-26-2009, 04:51 PM
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The world has confirmed a recession! Does not mean that people with more money then they know what to do with will not spend it. No matter where they live. IMO
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Edward's wedding was a small affair because he not directly in line to the throne,while William is second in line and will someday be king.So a big production is in order.A big splashy wedding is what royals do best.
Lots of things have changed for the royals since the days of big splashy weddings, though. Three divorces of senior royals, more intrusive media, more openness about their finances, etc. As the world of royalty changes (and scales back, to some extent, as people are less and less willing to pay for things like security for minor royals), the days of the Charles-and-Di-style wedding may just be over. Especially now that the world's economies are in crisis.

Plus, I don't know, William seems less grand over all than his father. He might balk at the idea of the humongous St. Paul's and all wedding.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:08 PM
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Can't wait for Karagiosis' new prophecy
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:55 PM
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What ever happened to Karagiosis he vanished after his two weeks was up!! Maybe he had the wrong royal couple?????
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:01 PM
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I think Karagiosis may have been right with part of the prediction only he had the wrong couple as you say Lady Ann.
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It has been my understanding that Karagiosis has been banned. So new predictions will not appear.
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---- snipped --- He might balk at the idea of the humongous St. Paul's and all wedding.
I don't think he will have a great deal of say in the matter! They could of course just pop up to Gretna!
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:16 AM
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Lots of things have changed for the royals since the days of big splashy weddings, though. Three divorces of senior royals, more intrusive media, more openness about their finances, etc. As the world of royalty changes (and scales back, to some extent, as people are less and less willing to pay for things like security for minor royals), the days of the Charles-and-Di-style wedding may just be over. Especially now that the world's economies are in crisis.

Plus, I don't know, William seems less grand over all than his father. He might balk at the idea of the humongous St. Paul's and all wedding.
I tend to agree with you that William does appear a lot less formal than his father, and times have changed since the wedding of C&D. That said, I do think William will have a big wedding, and it will be of the equivalent stature as a state event. I don't think the economic environment will necessarily delay a wedding, but may make it relatively (in the context!) a smaller affair - the celebrations may be restricted to the day itself, and perhaps the wedding only takes place at the Abbey -thereby restricting the route of the ceremonial procession, and hence the security costs.
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I don't think the economic environment will necessarily delay a wedding, but may make it relatively (in the context!) a smaller affair - the celebrations may be restricted to the day itself, and perhaps the wedding only takes place at the Abbey -thereby restricting the route of the ceremonial procession, and hence the security costs.
Much like Princess Elizabeth's in fact!
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Much like Princess Elizabeth's in fact!
Quite right.
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I don't think he will have a great deal of say in the matter! They could of course just pop up to Gretna!
Good lord, can you imagine the explosion here if that happened?
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Good lord, can you imagine the explosion here if that happened?
Gretna Green? Is it still possible to marry there?And if so - would it bother somebody that much?
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Gretna Green? Is it still possible to marry there?And if so - would it bother somebody that much?
Found this link:

Gretna Green Weddings

A friend of mine got married there a number of years ago when we were all in Sheffield for Branagh's "Richard III." We made it a destination wedding, much fun was had by all.

I think a Gretna Green wedding would be perfectly in line with situation. Would actually be a heckuva lot more "romantic" than millions of television viewers dissecting every utterance and gesture. And I doubt with the current mood of the country that it would be a boost to the BRF to have a big splashy thing.
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Kate Middleton: man-pleaser


For the record I don't believe that horse allergy story but I find the analysis spot on regardless.
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quote from the above Times online link: We want bright and feisty, a fresh perspective, a sense of humour.

I don't mean to be trite or unkind, but wasn't that Sarah Ferguson's initial popular appeal? Princess Anne's "feisty" attitude in the 70s and 80s didn't win her press approval either. Diana's "feisty" attitude to the Royal Family wasn't exactly a bonus in the long term.

I understand the point they are making, but it may be best if the era of "Princess Superstars" is not repeated for a while, and future Windsor brides remain in the supporting cast.
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---- snipped ----- future Windsor brides remain in the supporting cast.
Where they are supposed to be!
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quote from the above Times online link: We want bright and feisty, a fresh perspective, a sense of humour.

I don't mean to be trite or unkind, but wasn't that Sarah Ferguson's initial popular appeal? Princess Anne's "feisty" attitude in the 70s and 80s didn't win her press approval either. Diana's "feisty" attitude to the Royal Family wasn't exactly a bonus in the long term.
Sarah lacked class and self-control, Anne laked tact and kindness, Diana lacked intelligence and emotional maturity, which is why is all three cases feisty turned into a flaw.
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I understand the point they are making, but it may be best if the era of "Princess Superstars" is not repeated for a while, and future Windsor brides remain in the supporting cast.
I don't completely agree.

Future Windsor brides will have to understand that they are public servants and relinquish any personal ambition and vanity, but they can't be dull or vapid, that would hurt the monarchy more that them beeing overexposed. Already the general public is becoming more and more indifferent to the Monarchy, especially the younger generation. There is the need to inject some heavy dose of charisma and dignity to get people connected again with the institution.

A good matrix for the perfect royal bride would be Jackie Kennedy (a woman of another era, I understand, but so is the idea of Monarchy): brilliant, cultured, charismatic, witty, charming (beauty isn't very important as long as you have charm), socially graceful and more importantly, utterly devoted to her husband's political career and public role. Grace Kelly was the same.
Both these women were the star in their marriage but because they understood their role perfectly and were women of very high caliber, they turned into their husband's biggest asset rather than into a rival or a burden.

Do you know the expression 'behind a great man there is always a great woman'?
William needs his own great woman, especially since himself is painfully bland. He needs a woman who bring out the best in him and pushes him up, not some limp doormat who offer no challenge nor substance and just serves to highlight his most vapid side, imo.
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A good matrix for the perfect royal bride would be Jackie Kennedy.
We each have different ideals but JackieO would not be top of everyones list. Nor would Grace Kelly (known as a sex kitten). IMO

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For the record I don't believe that horse allergy story but I find the analysis spot on regardless.
I don't think we have any idea what makes these two tick and why they are happy with each other. We have no idea how Catherine makes William happy and how William makes Catherine happy - in case it is that way at all. And I don't think we have a right to. I personally am glad if these two are happy together.

But - believing in the idea of a gentleman protecting his Lady love, I think it is about time William does a bit more to protect Catherine from the world/media. If she gives him that special something, he should give her something in return. But then: if she is happy, then it should be okay.
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We each have different ideals but JackieO would not be top of everyones list. Nor would Grace Kelly (known as a sex kitten). IMO
Oh I know about Grace being the village bicycle and a professional mistress during her time in Hollywood. It's pretty irrelevant to me though when judging her as a royal consort. I am surprised you who hold her youthful promiscuity against her considering your love of Camilla who was just as bad.
As far as Jackie O, could you develop how you though she was lacking as a first lady?
Regardless if these two ladies irk you just ignore their names and just consider the qualities I enumerated, as this was my ultimate point.This book seems really fascinating (thank you for the link) but Google won't let me read it. Do I have to register somewhere?
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