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Old 01-16-2007, 01:21 AM
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This is the cover story in Australia's New Idea this week:

http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/new-idea/1...royal-wedding/

The article gives "all the details", including that Kate is already secretly seeing style expert Leesa Whisker to advise her on the clothes, hair and make-up for her new role, and that she has visited dentist Dr Didier Fillion in London, who specialises in giving his elite clients the 'perfect smile' using invisible braces.

The details of the actual wedding arrangements are - perhaps not surprisingly - somewhat thin on the ground, though it is said that "The royal courtiers are scuttling about in preparation for the biggest wedding ever." There is speculation about the style of dress, venue (St Paul's or Westminster Abbey), and honeymoon location. I haven't seen anything about Crown Jewels, though maybe I need to read it again. Perhaps my tiny brain was overwhelmed by all those "details".

It also says that 'While Charles and Di married more for duty, Kate and Wills will tie the knot with love".

As for the actual date, there's more "detail" in the extract on the internet site than in the article. The web page says this English summer, but that's not stated in the magazine, which merely says that the couple is tipped to marry within six months of the official engagement announcement.

Remember, our New Idea gave it to you first.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:30 AM
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While integrity and honesty on both sides are very helpful in a marriage, they don't compensate for a marriage between essentially incompatible people. Neither William not Harry should be rushed into marriage because the press has decided to exploit the situation for financial gain.
William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:34 AM
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William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.
William is still in his army training and Catherine just started with her first job. IMHO this is more important for them at the moment than getting married - 5 years or not.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:41 AM
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William is still in his army training and Catherine just started with her first job. IMHO this is more important for them at the moment than getting married - 5 years or not.
Why are these jobs more important than a marriage... That's what's wrong with society today, marriage takes back space to everything else...

William isn't going to be in the army forever, and if anything starting out their marriage while William is in the army will probably afford them more privacy than after William's army days...As for Kate's job, Kate may not even be able to keep her job if she becomes the future Queen....

I'm not saying that careers aren't important but people change careers all the time, technically marriage is till death do you part. If William and Kate aren't sure about if they want to be married, when are they going to be sure? Especially in Kate's case, these are Kate's "best dating years."
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Why are these jobs more important than a marriage... That's what's wrong with society today, marriage takes back space to everything else...


I'm not sure I understand this statement. I don't think marriage takes the back burner to everything else. For some people, like myself, marriage is not the most important thing in the world. I'll be 25 in June, in fact I'm 2 weeks older than William. I am in no way ready to be married, even though my parents were younger than I am when they got married.


To William and Kate, they are young, they have their things going on and they are in no rush to get married. They shouldn't be looked down upon for that. This isn't 1957....it's not important that a woman get married as soon as she possibly can lest she end up an old maid.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:48 PM
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If everyone wants this to work out, then these two must be left alone to a certain degree. I personally find Chelsy and Harry alot more entertaining.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:02 PM
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I'm not sure I understand this statement. I don't think marriage takes the back burner to everything else. For some people, like myself, marriage is not the most important thing in the world. I'll be 25 in June, in fact I'm 2 weeks older than William. I am in no way ready to be married, even though my parents were younger than I am when they got married.


To William and Kate, they are young, they have their things going on and they are in no rush to get married. They shouldn't be looked down upon for that. This isn't 1957....it's not important that a woman get married as soon as she possibly can lest she end up an old maid.
I don't think you understand what I mean about this. For the record I'm a 26 female, and I'm not out freaking out becuase i don't have a husband.....I don't think a female should marry the first guy who comes along. However, I also don't think its a very good idea to saddle yourself in a long term relationship that may not be going any where either. If you do want to eventually marry.

Kate and William have been dating for five years. Yes, some of it was during college, so it makes sense that it would be at that long. However, at the point they are in now, considering both have been out of college for a while too, they should have a pretty good understanding if they want to be together for the long haul or not. If they aren't sure by now, than they probably aren't going to ever be sure...

If they are going to break it off, it would be far better off for them to break it off now, than for them to break it off a year or two years from now.. There comes a point in every relationship where a couple has to decide where the relationship is going...I would think at their ages, and given that they have been dating for 5 years now would be the right time to make that decision. The longer they put off this decision the harder its going to be to end the relationship too.

And since when is a five year courtship, "rushing a marriage."
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:13 PM
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Maybe they want to date for 10 years before they get married? It's their choice. We don't know if they've been discussing getting married in the near future or not. Just because they've been together for 5 years doesn't mean they have to immediately choose getting married or breaking up.

They very well could have had a talk about getting married and maybe between the both of them, they've decided to wait until X time before getting engaged/married.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:34 PM
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Dating for 5 years when you are 25 is a lot different than dating for 5 years when you are say 28 or 35. When you are a little older and female (and this is not applicable for all women) you might feel that you are at that point where we need to get married (if you are trying to have kids) or just move on. It all depends on the individual.
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William has been dating Kate Middleton for 5 years. Yes, they are young but 5 years is 5 years. If William isn't sure by now, than he's never going to be sure...I think they should either get married or move on.
I think William is sure but I also think he wants to make sure the timing is right. His uncle's marriage was ruined by being on military duties for the majority of the first two years of marriage and it was pointed out as a major factor in the marriage breakup.

I'm sure William doesn't want to repeat his uncle's mistakes.
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:33 PM
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This is the cover story in Australia's New Idea this week:

http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/new-idea/1...royal-wedding/
It's funny how the comments on the bottom of the article are congratulating them as if there's already been an official announcement of the engagement. As it has been said before, they are too young to get married. But everyone seems to forget one little detail and that if they announce an engagement, get married and Catherine adjust well into to all of that, then the pressure would be: when is Catherine going to get pregnant? Maybe (William and) she are ready to join their lives together forever, but are they ready to be parents? Because there was alot of pressure for Princess Alexandra of Denmark to get pregnant (and after five, I think, years of marriage she finally did) and she was married to the second in line for the throne. Imagine what it would be for William and Catherine!!!!!
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:33 PM
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if it was anyone but william i'd say take all the time you need...if you need 2 years or ten years. unfortunately he doesn't have that luxury. the pressure on charles was marry diana or move on. i hope william doesn't have that same pressure.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:54 PM
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As soon as the announcment is made Kate has to quit her job. There is no way that she can work, it didn't work with Edward and Sophie and Kate is going to be under much more pressure.

Ok so now we have unemployed Kate and William in the army still. She can stay with him and be an officer wife. I doubt this is going to go over well, people will be expecting her to be a 'working' once she is married. So she becomes a working royal with a husband still in the army, so she gets to deal with her first few years of royal life by herself. Like that isn't going to be difficult enough, add on top of that baby pressure. I can't imagine any scernio in which it would be a good idea for them to get married when he was still in the army.

I find it very interesting that William said that he wouldn't get married until he was 28 or 30, the same age he will be when he is out of the army. Notice he didn't say "when I am older" or "not for a few years" He said a specific age which is the same when he is going to be expected to be a full time working royal. I think he knows exactly what he is doing, and unless he and Kate break up I wouldn't expect anything until 2010.
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:55 AM
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if it was anyone but william i'd say take all the time you need...if you need 2 years or ten years. unfortunately he doesn't have that luxury. the pressure on charles was marry diana or move on. i hope william doesn't have that same pressure.
Charles was pressured into an announcement because of all the publicity they were getting and because Diana was unable to deal with the press of photographers (at this stage). She couldn't have royal protection unless they were engaged and it was unheard of for Prince Philip or the Queen to pay for protection for her themselves, as that would have been a signal that it was serious.

Catherine and William are not in the same position. Her parents are willing to pay for protection and so it seems is Charles. I believe that Charles would pay to protect any girlfriend of his son's.
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I am of the same opinion, Skydragon.
Prince Charles obviously wants his son not to worry about his girlfriend, while he is away.
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I agree with you but wonder why a) catherine's parents haven't provided any protection for her yet. b) why charles hasn't provided any protection for her yet. c) not to get off topic but diana's parents could've provided protection for her as well but didn't and i wonder why (perhaps because that type of press frenzy hadn't happened before)
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:40 PM
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c) not to get off topic but diana's parents could've provided protection for her as well but didn't and i wonder why (perhaps because that type of press frenzy hadn't happened before)
Maybe she didn't want it to stop.
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Indeed. There was a British pianist who had alot of public attention which he detested. He was always complaining about the press etc. Well, time went on and he put on weight, went bald and was barely recognisable. I had the pleasure of being sat next to him at a dinner dance and after about an hour, he flounced off saying that he was furious as nobody had recognised who he was or asked for an autograph. People may say they don't like publicity but when it goes, they soon miss it. It's just one of those odd things much like the showbiz bug.
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Indeed. People may say they don't like publicity but when it goes, they soon miss it. It's just one of those odd things much like the showbiz bug.
Perhaps you are right and Kate may have been liking the publicity initially. However, IMO, it can get pretty scary once you are being approached rather hurriedly and confusion can come on quite fast and Kate may be frightened now with all the attention outside her door, especially telephoto lens peering through the windows. The andrenolin is pumping and the fears grow that you might get hurt, especially, if your boyfriend had talked about the 'razzi' and the death of his mum.
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i agree with you but wonder why a) catherine's parents haven't provided any protection for her yet. b) why charles hasn't provided any protection for her yet.
Possibly with Catherine, the excessive media interest took them all a little by surprise. I think that she also felt she could handle it herself. Possibly Charles and her parents are helping her via the press complaints, solicitors and possible court action.

Can you imagine the headlines if they hired 2 or 3 bodyguards and one of them pushed a photographer out of the way?
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