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Old 05-18-2016, 01:09 AM
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it was announced when he was born that he'd be called "prince Harry" but the RF are not going to give him an informal name like Harry, rather than the "correct" one..
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:15 AM
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However, that does not change the fact that on his birth certificate and baptismal record his legal name is Henry Charles Albert David and he would be required by law to use his legal name for a legal document.
I don't think he was required by law. As far as I know, the law in England (and most every other common law country) is that your signature can be anything you please, so long as it's reasonably consistent. It's not even constrained to letters of the alphabet. Also, birth certificates and baptismal records are not binding like that. You can change your legal name by simply adopting a new one and consistently using it, so long as you don't do it fraudulently. (People will take out a deed poll, go to court, etc. to get formal documentation of their new name so that they can connect their current identity to their old documents, but that doesn't mean that someone else has power over their name. They renamed themselves, and are asking for that to be recorded.)

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Prince Henry may be referred to as Harry, but he signed his first name as Henry when it came time to register as a witness for his brother William's wedding.
Has William's wedding register actually been released? I thought it was being kept private, unlike previous ones.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:30 AM
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Any legal document, such as a Will or Marriage Certificate, would use Harry's full name and title - His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales - and he would sign it "Harry" as usual.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:27 AM
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I believe times and customs have changed, Many, many years ago while purchasing a home, my husband signed his name inserting "Sr." after it as he always used this since his son was born. Son's birth certificate, baptism certificate and his own marriage license all read Jr. which is how son wrote his name. Attorney made my husband redo all deed documents disregarding the sr as that was not considered legal as sr was not on his proper recorded birth, confirmation and marriage papers. I mean, lets face it, at that time who knew he would have a son named after him on the day he was born, so of course it was not on legal documents then!


When purchasing our last home in 2006, he asked attorney about this Sr. designation after his name and was told that it doesn't make any difference anymore so he signed sr after his name. BTW his grandson is 'the third" which is on his birth certificate but he certainly doesn't use that while signing anything. I personally would never recommend all this same name tradition. We have over the years been sent bills, etc., of both son and grandson which caused quite a bit of nonsense in the family to get straight.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:52 PM
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Any legal document, such as a Will or Marriage Certificate, would use Harry's full name and title - His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales - and he would sign it "Harry" as usual.
Jacknch, you expressed a legal document would use Henry's full name and title. Would not the document require the Prince sign HENRY if his name is made out as HENRY on the document?
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:09 PM
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Jacknch, you expressed a legal document would use Henry's full name and title. Would not the document require the Prince sign HENRY if his name is made out as HENRY on the document?
I don't think it would be required. As far as I know, signatures are not regulated that strictly, and signing one's name as opposed to another mark is just a custom. Any reasonably unique and consistent mark can be a signature.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:13 PM
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Your signature doesn't even have to be legible. As long as it looks the same every time you sign it. My mother's is so illegible it might as well say Satan.
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Old 05-19-2016, 01:19 AM
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It's (still) quite surprising to me that this subject is thread-worthy my birthname and "calling name" have been different since the day i was born (Elisabeth on my birthcertificate, Liset on the birthnotice that was sent to family and friends), on legal docs i use E as initial on everyday docs L, and my signature is practically illegible but contains an L (it's completely common in my family, my dad uses as first initial F or G or S, depending on where it's used)
At least Harry can always use an "H"
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:48 AM
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The birth registry for George and Charlotte list William's full name William Arthur Philip Louis but he only signed them as William. George VI signed Elizabeth's wedding registry as George R and we all know that Albert is first name.

So Harry signing as Harry isn't a problem. Google US Presidents signatures half you can't even make out. Check out George W Bush

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geor..._Signature.svg

It doesn't even look like English.


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Old 05-19-2016, 03:55 AM
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Jacknch, you expressed a legal document would use Henry's full name and title. Would not the document require the Prince sign HENRY if his name is made out as HENRY on the document?
The key thing for a legal document to be properly and legally binding (i.e. properly executed or, to put it in an old fashioned way, "signed, sealed and delivered") is that the correct person has signed it and that it can be proved at a future date. This is why most legal documents are witnessed and the witnesses sign too. They can verify that Harry was there and signed the documents or at least can be held accountable if there is doubt as to authentication.

One other point - Harry's signature these days is a large "H", a wavy line and a loop representing the "Y" then it's all underlined. The wavy line could represent anything!
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:10 AM
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Well technically Harry was the witness (he signed as a witness to William's signature) but unofficially I guess it goes both ways.
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Your signature doesn't even have to be legible. As long as it looks the same every time you sign it. My mother's is so illegible it might as well say Satan.
Hopefully, you are not doing any wishful thinking there. No disrespect intended. I just found that reference funny and mayhap revealing.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:55 PM
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Hopefully, you are not doing any wishful thinking there. No disrespect intended. I just found that reference funny and mayhap revealing.
My mother would be very horrified at the suggestion.

She has more in common with Martha Stewart, actually we jokingly called her the Martha stewart of canada. The double ll in her name tends to come out like a t in her chicken scratch and she forgets tha tail on her y.
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Maybe we're cousins! Your mom has Canada and my mom had the US with the moniker Sister Mary Vacuum Cleaner.

I kind of like that out and about among people, its Harry and in formal situations its Prince Henry of Wales. It does kind of suit Harry as when he's with the public, he's a very reachable guy and congenial. In formal situations, he's every inch the royal he's been brought up to be.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:15 AM
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I saw an informal note from Harry to a member of the public years ago on Twitter that was clearly signed Hary (dislexia?)
Perhaps he did that a few times, it was pointed out to him and he became a bit self conscious about his signature and thus made it illegible on purpose. (I believe something similar happened to King Carl Gustav of Sweden.)
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:10 PM
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Have rules changed so much then? I grew up in Canada (educated in the US) and lived there for 45 years before moving to the United States. I HAD to sign my full legal name on all official documents and cheques, otherwise I got questioned as to why I was signing it by my "nickname". Same when I moved to the US - all official documents and cheques had to be signed using my full legal name - not my nickname.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:21 AM
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The birth registry for George and Charlotte list William's full name William Arthur Philip Louis but he only signed them as William. George VI signed Elizabeth's wedding registry as George R and we all know that Albert is first name.
Of course.

He signed as George R because he was King George, the name he took (from his names given at birth) when taking the throne. I don't think anyone ever referred to him as King Albert or King Bertie.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:33 AM
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Royals don't use a surname..
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