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Old 12-30-2005, 11:39 PM
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The problem is ksenia, it's an issue for the politicians. They have to provide for the greater population. The Church can only offer it's advice to those who follow it.
And this is the heart of the problem. The Crown must remain above politics and accept advice from the Prime Minister, the Church and Parliament. Just as in 1936 with Edward VIII, if the Sovereign is advised on a point of contention by the Prime Minister, the Crown is bound to accept it or provoke a constitutional crisis.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:55 PM
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Yes but the Anglican accepts gays as a not a choice but what they were born as. At least I think they do. There are many gay anglicans and the church doesnt oppose to that. If William was gay and never married a man then there wouldnt be a problem. The church doesnt know what happens behind close doors. The church might still be able to crown him king. But we will have to wait until the archbishop convines with the international church. They are trying to decide the position of gays and women in the church. If they accept them then the church wont have a problem crowning him. But as far as william has shown he is straight. So lets talk about his future heterosexual marriage. Wasnt Charles supposed to have his first wedding at Westminster abbey but they were renovating or something? I like the Abbey a lot. St. Pauls is nice too. Either one is good for a royal wedding.
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:08 AM
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I read a story last summer that they are already preparing for the wedding of William and X (apparently they plan these things years in advance). How far ahead would they have to announce the engagement? How long do you think he'd be engaged?
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:09 AM
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He can't, however, pass the throne to his adopted son or to an out-of-wedlock natural son.
Yes, I agree, Elspeth.

It's an annoying thing, the monarchy insisting on the blood ties binding the crown from generation to generation.
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:12 AM
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William and Andrea? Now that would be a combination.
Ohmigosh, BeatrixFan! That made me fall off my chair!

Two pretty boys going up the aisle!
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:54 AM
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So in that case William would be King of the UK and Princess of Monaco? That'd be quite an achievement.
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:58 AM
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Wasnt Charles supposed to have his first wedding at Westminster abbey but they were renovating or something? I like the Abbey a lot. St. Pauls is nice too. Either one is good for a royal wedding.
Charles had his wedding in St Pauls because the abbey couldn't accommodate the 3 orchestras he wanted from Australia. I think I remember this correctly, anyway.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:30 AM
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If he had a say in his wedding (the 3 orchestras) then Prince William will probably get to have a say in his (if he wants it to be smaller, more private). Or is there an option of a public wedding (that's big or whatever) and then a small private one? Or would that not be allowed?
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:32 AM
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I think the only thing they could do would be a small wedding followed by a large reception. There's no provision for multiple weddings as far as I know.

The size of the wedding will probably be dependent more on what the Household and media think is appropriate than on his personal opinion. But then weddings usually aren't really for the bride and groom, they're for everyone else!
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He would have a lot of input into the details, but much of the plans for his wedding would have already been decided by the Sovereign and the Government years before.
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What a turn this thread has taken! And not a horrified or condescending reply in the bunch. I'm impressed! Just wish to point out that it wouldn't be "King of the UK and Princess of Monaco" but Prince of Monaco as he is still male.

My gay little heart is so pleased with you all! Thanks!

PS - who is Guy Pelly? (Please forgive my American ignorance.)
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:13 AM
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William could well walk down the aisle of Westminster Abbey - but will it be Kate or Keith on his arm?
as long as the C of E does not recognize homosexual unions he will not be walking with Keith.

you cannot discount the influence of religious teaching from everyday life-that is if you ascribe to one. many base their moral compases on religious doctrine and that does influence your political stance to some degree. I am just saying that the two politics and religion are two seperate issues and just because the state says something is legal does not make it right religiously and vice cersa.
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:19 AM
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st pauls vs. westminster abbey

i think a problem with the Abbey is the organ screen. It blocks the view, St. Pauls is more open and probably easier to film- more dramatic maybe?
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PS - who is Guy Pelly? (Please forgive my American ignorance.)
He is in William's "crew". They have been friends for a long time
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:11 AM
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He would have a lot of input into the details, but much of the plans for his wedding would have already been decided by the Sovereign and the Government years before.
What sort of plans do they make this early and who makes them? i mean, wouldn't William and his wife get a say in the planning of their wedding?
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Old 12-31-2005, 11:49 AM
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And this is the heart of the problem. The Crown must remain above politics and accept advice from the Prime Minister, the Church and Parliament. Just as in 1936 with Edward VIII, if the Sovereign is advised on a point of contention by the Prime Minister, the Crown is bound to accept it or provoke a constitutional crisis.
just a question, not meant to be sarcastic or anything...how can the crown remain above politics and parliament if they are accepting advice from the Prime Minister and Parliament?
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just a question, not meant to be sarcastic or anything...how can the crown remain above politics and parliament if they are accepting advice from the Prime Minister and Parliament?
The point is the Crown must remain head of state and cannot become mired in political controversies or have independent political power. The royal perogative is exercised by the Prime Minister on behalf of the House of Commons and the Sovereign reigns, but does not rule.

This is the heart of the British constitutional monarchy and parliamentary system.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:39 PM
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What a turn this thread has taken! And not a horrified or condescending reply in the bunch. I'm impressed! Just wish to point out that it wouldn't be "King of the UK and Princess of Monaco" but Prince of Monaco as he is still male.

My gay little heart is so pleased with you all! Thanks!

PS - who is Guy Pelly? (Please forgive my American ignorance.)
Yes, but if Andrea would end up as Queen of the UK, it's only right that William should be Princess of Monaco, you know.
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Andrea as Queen? If William doesn't want him I'll gladly relieve him of the burden!
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Happy New Year!

Can you tell me abut Kate Middleton, is she good for HRH Prince Williams to be a wife? I love to know about her because I can see your comments about disliking Kate Middleton.
I hopefully read your replying.

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