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01-11-2004, 06:19 PM
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This is my first post so I hope that I reply correctly.
I think that this rule is extremely silly and very old fashion. Catholicism is not a religion! It is a denomination of the Christian religion. I think that they should change the law. Catholics and Protestants believe in the same main beliefs.
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01-11-2004, 06:27 PM
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YOU ARE MOST WELCON AND YOU REPLY CORRECT.
IF THIS APEN THE GIRL HAVE TO DO WHAT QUEEN SOPHIE OF SPAIN DO( AND BELIVE IN THIS CASE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE, SHE IS ORTODOX). THIS IS ABIDICATE AND BECAME ANGLICAN. THE DIFFERENCES ARE VERY FEW AND IS NOT A LAW THAT FORBITEN WILLIAM FOLIN IN LOVE FOR SOME 1 THAT HAVE OTHER RELIGIAN. KING CHARLES THE II HAVE A CATOCLIC WIFE QUEEN CATHERINE THAT IS PORTUGUISE ( MY CONTRY) SHE JUST HAVE TO RESPECT THE OTHERS RELIGION. BUT I ABLIVE THAT DON'T COST NOTHING CHANGE EXPECIAL IF SHE IS IN LOVE. IN DID I BELIVE THAT IS THE SMALL THING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU MARRY WITH THE FUTURE KING OF ENGLAND.
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01-11-2004, 06:56 PM
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My points on the subject...
If William ever was to fall in love with a catholic girl, the girl would more than likely know that she could not marry him still being catholic. So I would say she should change her religion. If she was unwilling to do that, she should give him up, as unfair as that sounds--I believe if someone really loved William they would not be so selfish as to make him abdicate, since he was born to be King. It would be very unfair to both of them.
Though, I'm sure William knows this and wouldn't put a girl through this sort of thing (giving up her religion), so I doubt he would date many Catholic girls.
I don't think they will change the law, because I read somewhere that they were going to, but there would have to be so many laws and parliamentary changes made that it would be very difficult. I do think that the should change the law, but I doubt they will.
My father is Catholic and my mother is Baptist, and I've chosen just to be Christian without choosing either walk, so I can understand what all the Catholics are saying. It really is more of a way of life than just a religion.
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01-11-2004, 08:31 PM
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Actually, she could. It is up to Parliament to change the rule and I believe that they can be persuaded. After all, if "Meet the Royals" and other shows are to be believed, then Prince William will be a modern monarch. They've said that he already has shown himself to be his own person and everything. I think this will be the thing that pushes the British Monarchy into 21st century.
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01-13-2004, 12:07 AM
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I thought Parliament was considering reviewing that law, along with the one giving brothers precedence over older sisters in the line of succession. If they're going to make those changes, they'd be better off doing it soon, before it becomes a real issue rather than a theoretical one.
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01-13-2004, 12:39 AM
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It was put forward sometime in the past 2 years, and soundly defeated -- less than 10% voted in favor of a change. The thing about males and females being equal wasn't even put forward -- EIIR indicated she didn't have a problem with it, but the government hasn't brought it up.
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01-13-2004, 02:59 AM
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It was put forward sometime in the past 2 years, and soundly defeated -- less than 10% voted in favor of a change.
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That's pretty sad. It's just storing up trouble for later.
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01-13-2004, 03:26 AM
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Very true. Sad.
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01-13-2004, 06:08 AM
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I can't see it being a major problem. I think William will be free to marry the girl of his choice.
Who would have thought that the Crown Prince of Spain would marry a divorced journalist??
Or, that the Crown Prince of Norway would marry a single mother??
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01-13-2004, 11:16 PM
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The trouble is, as things stand now, legally he isn't free to marry the girl he loves and remain in the line of succession if the girl he loves is a Catholic and won't change her religion. Satanist would be fine, Catholic wouldn't. Doesn't make sense.
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02-18-2004, 07:32 PM
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There is something very funny in this story
William can´t marry anyone divorced, unless his "future wife"´s ex-husband is dead.
The funny part is:
Henry VIII broke with Roman Catholic Church, because he wanted to get divorced and marry again, and as in Roman Catholic Church : What God puts together can´t be separed, he decided to create a new religion Anglican Church.
So, my opinion about all those rules of who he can or can not marry has to be broken, a King happy is the better choise for every country, and that depende if his is with someone he really loves!!!
Sorry about my english, I´m from Brazil, hope that all of you understand what I wrote.
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02-20-2004, 01:47 PM
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Does anyone know if it was not preferred in Spain and Norway for the princes to marry the women they married?I mean, ofcourse its not against the law, but maybe kind of discouraged? I mean, I've read in this thread that Prince William isn't allowed to marry a divorcee, unless her husband's dead, so was that the case in thse two countries, and did the princes have to seek permission before marrying? Any idea?
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02-20-2004, 02:17 PM
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In all royal houses permission is need for them to get married. I dont think the princes of Norway and Spain went aganist the law.
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02-20-2004, 02:24 PM
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In both Spain and Norway, the King granted permission.
In Denmark, the Queen gave permission and the votes went in favor of the marriage.
Same with the Netherlands.
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02-20-2004, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by cd_1@Feb 20th, 2004 - 1:47 pm
Does anyone know if it was aginst the law in Spain and Norway for the princes to marry the women they married? I mean, I've read in this thread that Prince William isn't allowed to marry a divorcee, unless her husband's dead, so was that the case in thse two countries, and did the princes have to seek permission before marrying? Any idea?
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He can marry a divorcee, there is no law against it. Prince Michael of Kent did. Back in the day, however, divorce was taboo and that's why there was such a stink about Edward and Wallis. The fact that she had two living husbands and that there were some questions about her character only exacerbated the situation.
All William needs is the is the approval of the monarch. However, if for some reason that approval is denied, he can make an application to Parliament (providing he's over the age of 25, IIRC). The only requisite is that she not be Catholic.
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02-20-2004, 02:46 PM
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Do you think they'd ever repeal that "non-Catholic" stance? I know it was due to the past interactions between the monarch and the Catholic Chrurch, but it's been centuries now....
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02-20-2004, 02:59 PM
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It would be nice, but it'll take the heir to the throne falling in love and wanting to marry a Catholic before they'll seriously start to consider changing that rule. (imo).
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02-20-2004, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Moonlightrhapsody@Feb 20th, 2004 - 2:46 pm
Do you think they'd ever repeal that "non-Catholic" stance? I know it was due to the past interactions between the monarch and the Catholic Chrurch, but it's been centuries now....
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IIRC, there were discussions on it not so long ago. It was decided not to change it. Part of it may have to do with the "Defender of the Faith" title.
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02-20-2004, 03:10 PM
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yes, ofcourse they wouldn't do anything against the law, but I just wondered.
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02-20-2004, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fireweaver@Feb 20th, 2004 - 2:59 pm
It would be nice, but it'll take the heir to the throne falling in love and wanting to marry a Catholic before they'll seriously start to consider changing that rule. (imo).
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I agree. Although, on a side-note, it should be noted that he just can't marry a Catholic. There's nothing to say that his spouse can't convert to Catholicism *after* the marriage.
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