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Old 03-09-2006, 02:23 AM
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What if William marries before his father become King?
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hi crisinaki, like I said above, if William gets married before the Queen dies, I think she'll bestow on him the title Duke of Clarence. I don't think he'll lose the title when Charles becomes King but he will probably be better known simply as the Prince of Wales (or Prince William)
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Harry will probably become Duke of Cambridge upon marriage. Albany is still tied up in the Titles Deprivation Act and the Saxe-Coburgs technically have the right to repetition the Crown for a restoration of their peerages.

William is the likely candidate to become Duke of Clarence if he marries before The Queen dies. It is traditionally held by the eldest son of the Prince of Wales prior to becoming Duke of Cornwall.
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What if William marries before his father become King? would he get a dukedom or has to wait till he can take the Duke of Cornwall? and if he gets a dukedom at marriage, would he be the Duke of Cornwall and _____ when his father gets the throne?

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The Queen would grant a dukedom to William so his wife wouldn't be styled "HRH Princess William". When Charles becomes King, William would then be HRH The Duke of Cornwall and Clarence until his father created him Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester.
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Old 03-09-2006, 10:29 AM
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what about duke of york, kent, or gloucester?
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:06 AM
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what about duke of york, kent, or gloucester?
They are taken. Harry will have to find a vacant Royal dukedom.
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Are there many that are vacant? Or are there too many to name?
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Here's a list of all the dukedoms created in England, Scotland, and Ireland and their histories.

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/List_of_Dukedoms

I'm not sure but I think the dukedoms that merged with the crown and are not held by any current royal are open for the Queen to bestow.
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Duke of Clarence for Henry I Think :) and Duke of Sussex for William (uless he gets Cornwall first)
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In addition, the Soveriegn can create a Dukedom never previously used. There isn't a rule that it must be one in existence before.
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York will return to the Crown after the death of Prince Andrew, as things stand now, since he has no male heir unless The Queen or Charles issues a new remainder to female heirs. Kent and Gloucester are likely to pass out of the royal family to the descendants of the blood royal.
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Harry will probably become Duke of Cambridge upon marriage. Albany is still tied up in the Titles Deprivation Act and the Saxe-Coburgs technically have the right to repetition the Crown for a restoration of their peerages.

William is the likely candidate to become Duke of Clarence if he marries before The Queen dies. It is traditionally held by the eldest son of the Prince of Wales prior to becoming Duke of Cornwall.
What is the Titles Deprivation Act?
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The Titles Deprivation Act was passed by Parliament in 1917 after World War I ended in response to public pressure to punish the German relatives of George V who had taken arms against Great Britain.

After creating a special committee, the Privy Council determined that HRH Charles Eduard, Duke of Albany, HRH Ernst-Augustus, Duke of Cumberland & Teviotdale, HRH Ernst-Augustus, Duke of Brunswick, Prince of Great Britain & Ireland, and Henry, Viscount Taaffe of Corren, all had supported Germany against Great Britain. George V issued letters patent to strip them of all British peerages, dignities and honours, which was authorized by the Act.

As a result, the descendants of these peers no longer hold their British honours or peerages, but retain the right to petition the Crown for a restoration of them. None of the families have done so to-date.
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Does that basically mean that those titles cannot be put to use unless all those descendants die off, and that those descandants would not petition the crown unless the sovereign would think about putting those titles back to use?
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It's complicated because Parliament provided a mechanism for their descendants to repetition the Crown for restoration of their peerages. Since Parliament is ultimately sovereign in law, the Crown could not recreate them for someone else without taking advice from constitutional law experts and the Prime Minister.

Technically, they remain unavailable since it is possible they could be restored to the current descendants under the Act.
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let HM Majesty's decide for Prince Harry's new title or governament will have discussion of title.

mostly royals who hold as Prince and Princess they known as and also Earl and Countess and Duke and Duchess,and lots of more what really need it and have rights by their rules of Royals.
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Its going to be interesting seeing how this will all play out.
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Do you think that either Beatrice or Eugenie would get titles when they get married? or it's just for males?

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I think the Queen (if still living) would probably offer their hsubands titles, like she did for Prss. Alexandra, Anne, and Margaret.
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I think the Queen (if still living) would probably offer their hsubands titles, like she did for Prss. Alexandra, Anne, and Margaret.
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