That's a lot of C's in the family, though: Cornwall, Cambridge, Clarence???
I think it would be better to go with Duke of Sussex (or what about Duke of Buckingham?)
Sussex or Albany is nice. What about Duke of Sussex-Albany?
That's a lot of C's in the family, though: Cornwall, Cambridge, Clarence???
I think it would be better to go with Duke of Sussex (or what about Duke of Buckingham?)
I like the titles Duke of Oxford and Duke of Clarence for the Prince. But is he really marrying this so so-looking girl from Africa?
As she has been his only serious girlfriend for the last 5+ years the odds are that she will be the one he marries.
Looks aren't everything. Anyone who judges a person based on looks is very very shallow. Chelsy has so much more going for her - brains, spirit and something that he finds admirable so if she is the one for him then so be it.
I like the titles Duke of Oxford and Duke of Clarence for the Prince. But is he really marrying this so so-looking girl from Africa?
I just read about the wedding of the Duke of Hamilton and found out that his new wife is the new "Countess of Cambridge" as the Duke of Hamilton has the secondary title of "Earl of Cambridge" - that means that as soon as the couple have their first son, there will be an "Earl of Cambridge" with that name.
Hmmm. That is interesting. I am glad now that Harry doesn't have that title. Too many people with it.
That said I am reasonably sure that Harry will be given a dukedom when he marries.
I believe the Queen will and can do a lot of things...as she did when she made Edward Earl of Wessex. I just think for the heir's heir she will stay within the confines of history.
Personally, I think Duke of Sussex will be bestowed upon him when he marries. Oxford will certainly not be used.. and though Clarence is available, it has a very bad history and presumably would not be the first choice if there are others that could be given instead.
My suggestion is grant the traditional Dukedom of Clarence to Harry but under the name of Suffolk. In doing so, re-establishes the origianal 5 dukedoms first granted by Edward III all into the House of Windsor, effectively fullfills the ranking ducal title of old East Anglia and maintains the traditional ducal title within the Royal Family. Suffolk "kills three birds with one stone".
A little lengthy I know, but what do you think?
This might be a dumb question, but could Harry not give his children titles ( like Zara and Peter ) and later if they decided they wanted a title give them one then?
Given that the Suffolk ducal title has not been regranted since 1554 and was never a Royal title in the first place, I would say the possibility is remote that Harry would be given this one.
Besides, the title Earl of Suffolk is still extant and has been held by the Howard family since 1603. The first Earl (4th creation) was a son of the 4th Duke of Norfolk and the current holder is Michael Howard, 21st Earl of Suffolk and 14th Earl of Berkshire. His son, Viscount Andover, is the heir apparent and was born in 1974.
So, in the future, when it is time to discuss the titles for the future sons of William and Kate, ducal titles possibly availabe for the second son could be Cambridge (passed down from William's current title), York (as Andrew has no current heir), Clarence (but not likely as previously discussed) and Essex?
Essex is still extant as an earldom. It has been created nine times, with the current holder being Frederick Paul Capell, 11th Earl of Essex. He is 66 years old and has never married.. but he does have an heir - William Jennings Capell of California, USA - his 4th cousin once removed. And Mr. Capell has a son to succeed him.