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Old 08-09-2005, 12:03 PM
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It's been recently announced in the media in Spain that Wills has the permission of both the Queen and Prince Charles to live with his girlfriend, whom he met at University in Scotland. it's said they are going to share an apartment in Clarence House, where Prince Charles is currently living and where the Queen Mother used to live.
The most extreme branches of the Anglican Church do not agree with this decision. I think that Prince Charles is a man of his time and he is doing what any man at his age would, once he's found the person he loves. He wants to know if he can live with and share his life and responsibilities with the woman he loves. Nevertheless, some people think this is not appropriate since he is known to be the King of England some time in the future, and though he should give a good example of behaviour.
What do you think about this? Do you think this will threaten the foundations of the English Royal Family? Do you think that his behaviour is appropriate?
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:05 PM
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How tremendously awkward- asking your 80 year old grandmother for permission to live with your girlfriend.
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How tremendously awkward- asking your 80 year old grandmother for permission to live with your girlfriend.
The royal protocol dictates that a future king needs to seek permission to get married from the reigning king or queen.So asking HM The Queen to stay with his girl friend is nothing to be surprised of.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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If Wills has the permission of The Queen and The Prince of Wales, who am I to argue. Besides, we're forgetting one very important issue here - it's William's life not ours. Why should we dictate to him... he doesn't dictate to us.
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I disagree. The future King who lives with his girlfriend in his father's house? I hope the story is untrue. They would be a very bad example.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:12 PM
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I disagree. The future King who lives with his girlfriend in his father's house? I hope the story is untrue. They would be a very bad example.
You mean as opposed to a divorced/widowed father who lives with his girlfriend in the same house as his teenaged sons? :)
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:39 AM
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You mean as opposed to a divorced/widowed father who lives with his girlfriend in the same house as his teenaged sons? :)
Excellent point Iowabelle!! Kudos to you!!!!:) :)
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I disagree. The future King who lives with his girlfriend in his father's house? I hope the story is untrue. They would be a very bad example.
I don't agree with you ElisaR. I think wills is like any young man in that he wants to live with his girlfriend. The only problem would accure if he and Kate were to live together for a long time like say 10 years. The problem that Royalty face now is that the public and media expect live to live to moral standards which no one else bothers with these days. If a royal decides to have a child outside marriage its still a big deal.

I've read stories in the British press that he and kate intend to live together. However in this weeks issue of Hello Magazine they did say that if the couple did decide not to live in a palace, then that this would cause a security nightmare. Especially when the press and tourists find out where they live. Besides they have already lived together.

I don't think that they could live in a palace together unless they were serious about marriage etc. If they did this then people would take it as a sign that Wills is considering marrying Kate.

I think she needs to be careful with that family, as they have a long history of disasterous marriages etc. Besides they are both so young.

I think they should just go for it and live together somewhere in London. They're in love - why not?!!!
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I don't agree with you ElisaR. I think wills is like any young man in that he wants to live with his girlfriend. The only problem would accure if he and Kate were to live together for a long time like say 10 years. The problem that Royalty face now is that the public and media expect live to live to moral standards which no one else bothers with these days. If a royal decides to have a child outside marriage its still a big deal.

I've read stories in the British press that he and kate intend to live together. However in this weeks issue of Hello Magazine they did say that if the couple did decide not to live in a palace, then that this would cause a security nightmare. Especially when the press and tourists find out where they live. Besides they have already lived together.

I don't think that they could live in a palace together unless they were serious about marriage etc. If they did this then people would take it as a sign that Wills is considering marrying Kate.

I think she needs to be careful with that family, as they have a long history of disasterous marriages etc. Besides they are both so young.

I think they should just go for it and live together somewhere in London. They're in love - why not?!!!
as the future head of the church, i think he's setting a terrible example. if he were the future head of the church then i wouldn't disagree with it.
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as the future head of the church, i think he's setting a terrible example. if he were the future head of the church then i wouldn't disagree with it.
I'm sure many people would agree with you, but the fact is, they were already living together in Scotland, albeit with another couple. Prince William remains extremely popular with the public, so it's likely that he will get away with continuing the arrangement.

Who knows if the Sovereign will remain Head of the Church of England after the death of the Queen? There have been reports that Charles feels very strongly the Church should be deinstitutionalized from the Crown so as to more accurately represent a diverse society of many religions. There have been suggestions he would like to be crowned as "Defender of All Faiths" to represent all of the British people. This would be very controversial though.
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It is common sense that he will talk about this with her 80 y/o grandmother (who by the way is the queen of England) and father, specially after all the responsabilities he has and the consequences that his decission will have.
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It is common sense that he will talk about this with her 80 y/o grandmother (who by the way is the queen of England) and father, specially after all the responsabilities he has and the consequences that his decission will have.
I read somewhere William and Kate had planned to get a their own house or flat together in London. Apparently, Prince Charles offered them an apartment in Clarence House instead (obviously with the approval of the Queen). Clarence House is a crown property, so the Queen's permission is required, especially since they are not married.

It's not that surprising, after all, they were living together with another couple in Scotland during their time at St. Andrews. Whether this will someday translate into a marriage is another matter altogether. She is not an appropriate bride for a future king, but I guess times have changed.
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If they're still unsure about marriage, it's another reason why they shouldn't live together. Charles has obviously given his permission because he used to live with his mistress. The Queen, I think she gave up taking decisions about her family years ago: now if they make an error it's only their fault and not hers. I think she is simply tired by them all and I imagine her saying: "Do what you want but leave me alone!"
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It's not that surprising, after all, they were living together with another couple in Scotland during their time at St. Andrews. Whether this will someday translate into a marriage is another matter altogether. She is not an appropriate bride for a future king, but I guess times have changed.
I kinda agree, branchg.

What if the relationship doesn't turn out? Will Kate write a tell-all book about her relationship with Wills? Or even worse, if something unsavoury about her character comes out, it will be harder for him to break it off if he's lived with her. I really hoped that the BRF wouldn't have a situation similar to Haakon and Mette-Marit.
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I listened to the piece of news in a programme on the Spanish Television. It's not me saying something, it's based on what was said in this programme,which, by the way, is of great interest among spanish viewers. The mentioned programme gave the same explanation quoted above by branchg... so I guess, it's not only me having heard about this info in Spain but it's been mentioned somewhere apart from Spain.

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I read somewhere William and Kate had planned to get a their own house or flat together in London. Apparently, Prince Charles offered them an apartment in Clarence House instead (obviously with the approval of the Queen). Clarence House is a crown property, so the Queen's permission is required, especially since they are not married.

It's not that surprising, after all, they were living together with another couple in Scotland during their time at St. Andrews. Whether this will someday translate into a marriage is another matter altogether. She is not an appropriate bride for a future king, but I guess times have changed.
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I find there are several different opinions on the topic and I'm happily surprised that this topic is of interest among people.
I have one question for those who disagree with their living together: Why is it not appropriate? Why isn't she the appropriate bride for Wills? According to you, which should be the ideal bride for Wills?

I mean no offence by my questions, it's just a matter of trying to understand the different points of view. If I offend somebody, please I ask for their forgiveness.
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I have one question for those who disagree with their living together: Why is it not appropriate? Why isn't she the appropriate bride for Wills? According to you, which should be the ideal bride for Wills?
I don't see any problem with them living together as they were doing that anyway while away at school. Obviously, they have a very good relationship, but as William himself stated when asked, he is not ready to get married.

Kate Middleton does not meet the general rule of a "lady from a good family", which, in the world of the British monarchy and Establishment, means marrying one of your own. Marrying someone who is not a peer or a member of another royal family would be unprecedented for the British monarchy.

Part of your duty as heir is to marry and secure the blood royal for the future. William knows and understands he must marry an aristocratic girl with appropriate British bloodlines for the throne. It simply is a fact of his life.
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I find there are several different opinions on the topic and I'm happily surprised that this topic is of interest among people.
I have one question for those who disagree with their living together: Why is it not appropriate? Why isn't she the appropriate bride for Wills? According to you, which should be the ideal bride for Wills?

I mean no offence by my questions, it's just a matter of trying to understand the different points of view. If I offend somebody, please I ask for their forgiveness.
i don't think she's an unappropriate bride...we really don't know much about her, although what we have heard is good.

i don't think living together is appropriate because as future head of the church of england william is suppose to represent certain morals and values and living together out of wedlock goes against those morals and values. i'm not saying this makes him a bad person but if the queen is going to allow this sort of thing then perhaps the church should change and make this sort of living arrangement acceptable in the church. i think it was wrong when his father did it as well.
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I personally think it is not a good idea that they move to live together without getting married.
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:p i disagree, i think you must see if you can live together under the same roof. Then you can see if you can live with the habbits and dislike things your partner does. I live 7 1/2 years together with my boyfriend and i asked the grandparents of my boyfriend what they thought of that . The gave us oure blessing ( they have a granddaughter who first lived together with her boyfriend before the got married.)
My parents could not forbid me to live together with him because in the past they did the same thing under the roof of my grandparents.

I respect the people who do not live together because they are religious.
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