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Old 08-09-2005, 01:30 PM
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I listened to the piece of news in a programme on the Spanish Television. It's not me saying something, it's based on what was said in this programme,which, by the way, is of great interest among spanish viewers. The mentioned programme gave the same explanation quoted above by branchg... so I guess, it's not only me having heard about this info in Spain but it's been mentioned somewhere apart from Spain.

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I read somewhere William and Kate had planned to get a their own house or flat together in London. Apparently, Prince Charles offered them an apartment in Clarence House instead (obviously with the approval of the Queen). Clarence House is a crown property, so the Queen's permission is required, especially since they are not married.

It's not that surprising, after all, they were living together with another couple in Scotland during their time at St. Andrews. Whether this will someday translate into a marriage is another matter altogether. She is not an appropriate bride for a future king, but I guess times have changed.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:34 PM
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I find there are several different opinions on the topic and I'm happily surprised that this topic is of interest among people.
I have one question for those who disagree with their living together: Why is it not appropriate? Why isn't she the appropriate bride for Wills? According to you, which should be the ideal bride for Wills?

I mean no offence by my questions, it's just a matter of trying to understand the different points of view. If I offend somebody, please I ask for their forgiveness.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:02 PM
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Welp here is the proof:

Royal News: Prince William's new love nest http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/82912004.htm
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:09 PM
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Royal News Prince William - Girlfriend controversy
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/82742004.htm
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:11 PM
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This is a bit differnt. Is she just staying over from time to time-as this article suggests and is a day b/f the other articles-or is she moving in?

Royal News Prince Charles allowa William girlfriend to stay over
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/82572004.htm
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:22 PM
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As I said in my previous respond, I have nothing against for unmarried couple to live together. I do it myself, but when we talk about the future king, he hast to be more careful of what he does. I agree then, when you live with your bf/gf you can decide whatever you want them or not, but on another side when the guys have too easy excess to their love, unfortunately they forget to ask their love to marry them….it always happened. Why they should ask of someone to marry them, when they got such on ease access to everything. Some times, I wished I didn’t live with my boyfriend
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:27 PM
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Hey you coudl always give him an ultimatum. Personally I think living together b/f marriage poisons your mind, body, and soul. Just like segolen says, one of em is getting a free ride and marriage may not seem in the future. Why not just get married. Court each other b/f marriage. Communicate about everything b/f marriage. (and if the other person does not want to talk you may want to take a break from that relationship for a while, if not forever.) Then if all turns out well, get married and live together. Also it might help to get counselling from a clergy member or maybe to talk to successful married couples.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:56 PM
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In nowadays (most) people don't marry virgins anymore. People don't care about it, they say if they live together before marriage they will understand more eachother, they will find out if they really like eachother, etc... but the fact is that Divorces are growing so fast (even in people who lived together for years before marriage).

I agree with Reina. I think that living together without marriage, for a future King, is too much.

I'm not british but just for curiosity I would like to know who's gonna pay the food and other bills of his girlfriend? She pays? William pays? Charles pays?... or will be the British people? She's not his fiancee, she's just (and at this moment) a simple girlfriend.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:56 PM
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They have together under the same roof for 3 years, so I don't think it should make a whole lot of differance. Yes, there were 2 others living there, but where there is a will there is way. I would chose to not live with my boyfriend, but then I'm not them.
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:19 PM
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i already knew! because William still with Kate since college years and both lived house till end of college years because both been roommate and more trust as companion but im trust Prince Charles!

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Old 08-09-2005, 03:22 PM
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I have one question for those who disagree with their living together: Why is it not appropriate? Why isn't she the appropriate bride for Wills? According to you, which should be the ideal bride for Wills?
I don't see any problem with them living together as they were doing that anyway while away at school. Obviously, they have a very good relationship, but as William himself stated when asked, he is not ready to get married.

Kate Middleton does not meet the general rule of a "lady from a good family", which, in the world of the British monarchy and Establishment, means marrying one of your own. Marrying someone who is not a peer or a member of another royal family would be unprecedented for the British monarchy.

Part of your duty as heir is to marry and secure the blood royal for the future. William knows and understands he must marry an aristocratic girl with appropriate British bloodlines for the throne. It simply is a fact of his life.
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:36 PM
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If William knows he must marry an "aristocratic girl" don't you think he'll catch alot of flak if he does do that and dumps the "less than aristocratic girl"?
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:16 PM
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Marrying someone who is not a peer or a member of another royal family would be unprecedented for the British monarchy.
branchq, do you mean "related" to a peer or royalty? Non-peers and non-members of royal families who have married into the family of the British monarch include Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson, Anthony Armstrong-Jones just to name some, so it wouldn't be unprecedented.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:22 PM
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branchq, do you mean "related" to a peer or royalty? Non-peers and non-members of royal families who have married into the family of the British monarch include Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson, Anthony Armstrong-Jones just to name some, so it wouldn't be unprecedented.
Diana was a Spencer-Churchill and from one of the oldest, most aristocratic families in the UK. She was descended from the Stuart line and more English than the royal family. As an aristocrat, it was an eminently appropriate marriage for the heir to the throne.

The others you mention were not marrying a future king, a very big difference.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:26 PM
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If William knows he must marry an "aristocratic girl" don't you think he'll catch alot of flak if he does do that and dumps the "less than aristocratic girl"?
He is young and entitled to have a relationship with a girl and live together. But that's very different than marrying her. It would be expected for him to marry an aristocrat and produce heirs with appropriate bloodlines. He would catch a heck of a lot more flak marrying a girl whose mother was a flight attendant.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:34 PM
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I think that, unless William falls in love with an aristocrat, he's not going to be looking at bloodlines.

After all, while his mother might have had the bloodlines and the virginity, that was hardly a great success.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:39 PM
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Diana was a Spencer-Churchill and from one of the oldest, most aristocratic families in the UK. She was descended from the Stuart line and more English than the royal family. As an aristocrat, it was an eminently appropriate marriage for the heir to the throne.

The others you mention were not marrying a future king, a very big difference.
Yes, I figured that's what you really meant to say. Thanks.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:45 PM
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I think that, unless William falls in love with an aristocrat, he's not going to be looking at bloodlines.

After all, while his mother might have had the bloodlines and the virginity, that was hardly a great success.
He won't have a choice, which he knows is part of his duty in being King.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:00 PM
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Part of your duty as heir is to marry and secure the blood royal for the future. William knows and understands he must marry an aristocratic girl with appropriate British bloodlines for the throne. It simply is a fact of his life.
You seem very affirmative. Do you know William or someone who is close to him and with whom he shared his views on marriage or do you make assumptions?
And about British bloodlines, does it mean a foreign royal or aristocrat would not be accepted?
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If it said that The Queen and his father already gave the permission so i have nothing to comment anymore.But i think as the role of the Future King, it can not be compared to his uncle Prince Edward or Zara and Peter Phillips.
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