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Old 09-28-2008, 03:34 AM
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Sky, about deathbed thoughts.... Wasn´t Edward VII´s last words supposed to be to ask who had won a horse race?
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Old 09-28-2008, 05:08 AM
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Sky, about deathbed thoughts.... Wasn´t Edward VII´s last words supposed to be to ask who had won a horse race?
Mine will probably be 'Typical, just when ............'
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:21 AM
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My great-grandmother at the ripe old age of 90 said that if her father(a doctor) had been alive he could have saved her.....
He was good but not that good.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:36 PM
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And George V's last words have devolved from the stately, "How is the Empire" to "Bugger Bognor." Depends on who's telling the story, I guess.

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Old 09-28-2008, 12:48 PM
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No doubt "How is the Empire" sounds much much better.
I remember how we, horrible little schoolgirls, used to giggle at "Kiss me Hardy"....
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:46 PM
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Goodness, this thread has taken a macabre turn.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:47 PM
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I promise to stop Elspeth..... Actually famous last words can be hilarious, not for the person uttering them of course.
Sorry, nice happy posts from now on.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:40 AM
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Well to bring the subject back to the media, I do think the papers are acting rather arrogantly.

I suspect that they do want to flex their muscles and show the Royal Family that 'we own you, we can make you or break you'

The problem is that for me, a Royal Family that can be so easily controlled by the media is not a family that I would respect.
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:28 PM
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Seems to me, there is an effort by the BRF to distance itself from the media in the recent years. Especially in the case of William and Kate, William is very good at evading personal questions and Kate doesn't talk at all. Her recently publicized role on Party Pieces website is as much "communication" as she's ever given.
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:41 PM
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I also have increasingly the impression that this is all part of a "power game" between the press and the young royals (especially William). Honestly the press doesn't really care for the rest but William and Kate really sell. Information about them is worth thousands of Pounds but they dare not to deliver. No "inside leaks", hardly any pictures together mostly well on a distance with no PDA, no engagment and wedding that could be marketed all in all hardly anthing that really sells - hence the press is showing its ugly side. Pretty much like blackmail. We'll trash you until you provide us with some gossip to sell papers.
That's why I am also not so sure anymore whether the post on the Party Pieces site was really such a good idea. In a way Kate has given in. The press "demanded" her to declare what it is she does 24/7 by calling her names etc and she gave in and made that "public announcement" about her employment at Party Pieces.
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Yes, I agree, and I'm sure it won't be long before the press is criticising her for it (while privately congratulating itself for having forced her hand). I wonder if they're really surprised about why William is so suspicious of them.
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:09 PM
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Well to bring the subject back to the media, I do think the papers are acting rather arrogantly.

I suspect that they do want to flex their muscles and show the Royal Family that 'we own you, we can make you or break you'

The problem is that for me, a Royal Family that can be so easily controlled by the media is not a family that I would respect.
Do people really believe what the media tells them anymore and more to the point do they care?? I must admit when I listen to reports on the weather I am sceptical and when they report on anything else I wonder what they arent telling me.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:24 AM
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I also have increasingly the impression that this is all part of a "power game" between the press and the young royals (especially William). Honestly the press doesn't really care for the rest but William and Kate really sell. Information about them is worth thousands of Pounds but they dare not to deliver. No "inside leaks", hardly any pictures together mostly well on a distance with no PDA, no engagment and wedding that could be marketed all in all hardly anthing that really sells - hence the press is showing its ugly side. Pretty much like blackmail. We'll trash you until you provide us with some gossip to sell papers.
That's why I am also not so sure anymore whether the post on the Party Pieces site was really such a good idea. In a way Kate has given in. The press "demanded" her to declare what it is she does 24/7 by calling her names etc and she gave in and made that "public announcement" about her employment at Party Pieces.
Well said, Isana. I think the press have been looking for a good story about W & K for a long time and not really found it. Hence, its always the same bits rehashed. What amazes me is how some members of these forums seem to take what the tabloids publish as the gospel.

I actually do thing the Party Pieces website upodate was a pretty need way of addressing the Waity-Katie bit. The press had really started baying for blood on this point, and it was important that it be addressed, once and for all. If they hadn't, the idle Waity-Katie story would juts not have died down.
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I agree about this probable "power game" between the press and the royals. How ironic that they'll most likely be playing this love-hate relationship all their lives.

The name Kate Middleton must generate enormous public interest... perhaps more than I thought. On top of the papers she sells, we've read her impact on merchandise... clothes... roller skates! Must be a huge blow for the media that she's decided to spend most of her days quietly in Berkshire. As for the Party Pieces updates, I think it was a sensible move. One way or the other, she'd have to prove that she is working. And it's actually quite admirable that they took this long to update the About Us section, since I'm certain First Birthdays has been around for a while. I know it feels like she has given in, but they have left her no choice. What's a girl to do if she has no voice? Sometimes I wonder why the Middletons couldn't just hire a publicist like most celebrities. Anyhow, I don't think it's a defeat. A real defeat in this power game with the media would be if she got another 9-5 job, in London, where they could be free to snap shots of her day after day after unending day, scrutinize her actions, her hair, her wardrobe, and ultimately sell truckloads of papers.
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Do people really believe what the media tells them anymore and more to the point do they care?? I must admit when I listen to reports on the weather I am sceptical and when they report on anything else I wonder what they arent telling me.
There are some very guilable people out there!
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:16 PM
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True but surely people understand that the media is financed by advertising/sales. A story about PW and KM going on a few dates quite happy in each others company enjoying themselves wont sell the same papers as a scandal/breakup/conspiracy/engagement. If they manage to combine the four they can name their price for their magazines
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:45 PM
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True but surely people understand that the media is financed by advertising/sales.
True, in theory. The thing is, from time to time, gossip pages do get a story right. With the current economic instability, there are a lot of people angry or shattered by downturn in their own finances while corporate chiefs get to walk away with millions after running their companies to ground. Papers like Daily Mail highlights the discrepancies in living standards between the haves and havenots. They do serve the purpose of highlighting inequities and provide a conduit for the general public to vent their anger and frustration. On the flip side, this excercise can also give both the writers and editors an enormouse sense of power: ability to influence and lead changes without the associating responsibilities and accountabilities of an individual manager, say the Prime Minister. And their readers, given a platform to voice their opinion on the posting boards anonymously, again without accountability, feel free to leave some of the most vitrios messages without guilt. If these posters were asked in face to face interviews on the same subjects, most would never say the same things they posted. Seeing ladies like Kate who don't seems to have any financial worries touches in some people, a nasty spot of envy, jealousy, and I suspect, some selfloathing.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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They do serve the purpose of highlighting inequities and provide a conduit for the general public to vent their anger and frustration.......
Seeing ladies like Kate who don't seems to have any financial worries touches in some people, a nasty spot of envy, jealousy, and I suspect, some selfloathing.
I am all for free press and I hear you about the jealousy I just personally wish that the press would hold itself to a higher standard ( I live in hope). We see more and more that the media itself is the story instead of reporting it and that annoys me. I do think Kate is paying for the complaint though . Whether it is the press getting even or simply filling columns with criticism that used to be filled with paparazzi snaps. They may also be trying to flex their muscles as other posters have suggested and establish a dominance in the relationship with Kate. I cant see them winning that war long term after Diana there is more public sympathy with the young royals than with the press.
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As far as the DM is concerned, they did seem to have a "lazy Kate/perfect Chelsy" narrative going on up until the wedding - now they seem to be treating Kate better. I think they just do that because it's a template that sells papers - I've heard that they had the exact same template with Diana and Fergie, where Fergie was the fun, free-spirited one they praised.
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As far as the DM is concerned, they did seem to have a "lazy Kate/perfect Chelsy" narrative going on up until the wedding - now they seem to be treating Kate better. I think they just do that because it's a template that sells papers - I've heard that they had the exact same template with Diana and Fergie, where Fergie was the fun, free-spirited one they praised.

Maybe it is just me but I think the British press tends to write very favorably towards Kate almost to the point of wondering if they ever bothered to consider that no one is perfect. At the wedding the British media was instructed by the Queen not to say anything bad about the wedding and they complied. Talk about biased journalism.
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