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View Poll Results: What Title will the Queen bestow on William and Catherine?
Duke of Clarence 25 16.45%
Duke of Cambridge 68 44.74%
Duke of Sussex 5 3.29%
Duke of Windsor 8 5.26%
Duke of Kendall 2 1.32%
Earl of Something 8 5.26%
Hey! My choice isn't listed. I think it will be something else. 10 6.58%
Nothing. I think they will remain Prince and Princess William of Wales 26 17.11%
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:52 PM
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The wife of Prince Charles is "HRH The Princess Charles, Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Carrick, Baroness Renfrew and Princess of Scotland" in Scotland.

The last two are simply styles reflecting the ancient offices of the heir to the Scottish throne, which are not titles in the Peerage of Scotland.

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Would Prince Charles have become The Prince Charles and The Duke of Cornwall immediately after George VI's death? Or would he have remained Prince Charles until his mother's coronation?
Yes. Charles was "HRH Prince Charles of Edinburgh" until his mother succeeded to the throne in 1952. At that point, he automatically became "HRH The Prince Charles, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince & Great Steward of Scotland" as the eldest son and heir of The Sovereign.

In 1958, his mother created him "Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester".
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:41 PM
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I'm thinking the Queen may have to create a new (or renew) a ducal title for William and Kate because the ones that are traditionally used in the BRF (York, Kent, Gloucester, Edinburgh) are already in use by other royal family members. William may end up with something like Duke of Clarence, Fife or Albany, maybe even Connaught & Strathearn.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:57 PM
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There's already been a lot of discussion in previous threads about what ducal titles are available, what aren't, and those that aren't a possibility. The frontrunner it would appear, is Cambridge.
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Duke of Clarence or Duke of Cambridge are probably the two likely choices.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:24 PM
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I think Duke of Cambridge has the nicest and best sound. It is the second oldest university in England and a prestigious one, if I am correct. William is second in line to the throne, so there is a similarity already .
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:44 PM
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My thought is Prince William will take no title...just my opinion that he will choose to remain Prince William of Wales and Catherine will be Princess William- that's my guess! :)
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Any and all discussions regarding Prince Charles's title should be in the http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...n-14668-2.html thread.

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"the other place"

If he's to be Duke of Cambridge, will the old Oxonians refer to him as the Duke of "the other place"?
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:38 PM
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...William may end up with something like Duke of Clarence, Fife or Albany, maybe even Connaught & Strathearn.
Albany is not available as there are 'heirs male of the body' able to petition parliament to have the title restored. Until it merges with the Crown it simply isn't an option.

Connaught isn't an option either as it is in the Republic of Ireland and there is no way that the Queen will create a title that has its place name in a country over which she is no longer Queen.

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Would Prince Charles have become The Prince Charles and The Duke of Cornwall immediately after George VI's death?
It was instantaneus - just as his mother instantly become Queen, Charles instantly became The Prince Charles, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay etc and Anne became The Princess Anne.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:01 AM
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Duke of Anglesey?

There is an Earl of Anglesey that in the 17th century went extinct, I would love to see it brought back and altered to a dukedom (I have no clue if thats even possible) for William and Catherine. It would be a great reminder of where they started their life together.
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There is an Earl of Anglesey that in the 17th century went extinct, I would love to see it brought back and altered to a dukedom (I have no clue if thats even possible) for William and Catherine. It would be a great reminder of where they started their life together.
Unfortunately it was already brought back in 1815 and became the Marquisate of Anglesey for the Paget family. Currently George Paget is the 7th Marquess of Anglesey.
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Connaught isn't an option either as it is in the Republic of Ireland and there is no way that the Queen will create a title that has its place name in a country over which she is no longer Queen.
Oh. I didn't know that. I honestly thought Connaught was within the UK. My bad.
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If for some reason we're all wrong about Cambridge being the likely choice, are there any available dukedoms or earldoms in Wales that the Queen could give to William? Seeing as how he's a prince of Wales, they'll be living in Wales, I think something like that would a great idea.
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... William may end up with something like Duke of Clarence, Fife or Albany, maybe even Connaught & Strathearn.
I think the current Duke of Fife, a cousin of The Queen, might object to his title being given to William.
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If for some reason we're all wrong about Cambridge being the likely choice, are there any available dukedoms or earldoms in Wales that the Queen could give to William? Seeing as how he's a prince of Wales, they'll be living in Wales, I think something like that would a great idea.
I was thinking about that the other day, I've no idea what is actually possible or not or if anything can be done but if it were possible then I think it'd be a great idea to give them a dukedom in Wales...maybe Duke & Duchess of Carmarthenshire or something. I mean Anglesey would be meaningful to them but seeing as Anglesey is fairly tiny itself I'm not sure it'd be a "major enough" title/dukedom for a future King.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:54 PM
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I read the other day, sorry I can't remember where, that William will be the Duke of Clarence.
I think it was on Yahoo. The title of the article was something like 'Wills to take title of Jack the ripper'.
The previous Duke of Clarence was rumored to be the infamous victorian serial killer.
(I think in recent times it was proved he wasn't).
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The Clarence title has been rumoured for William, along with Cambridge.
As for the last Duke of Clarence - the idea that he was Jack the Ripper was torn apart as soon as the idea emerged - simply because he was at Balmoral on the occasion of at least two of the murders and he had no medical training but...that something he did might have triggered the murders is another issue altogether - but that is the topic for another thread.
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:21 PM
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An option such as Duke of Montgomery & Strathern would please the Welsh and Scottish at the same time. The English could accept this because the title will become extinguished upon ascending the throne. Perhaps Duke of Clarence and Teviotdale might be a politically useful combination - with, subsidiarily, Earl of (insert name of available Welsh place).
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Unfortunately it was already brought back in 1815 and became the Marquisate of Anglesey for the Paget family. Currently George Paget is the 7th Marquess of Anglesey.
Dang it! I got so excited by finding it I did not bother to look any deeper!
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:56 AM
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There are titles that have only a masculine form, like eg. The Queen is "The Duke of Lancaster" while on Charles' ascension he will become Duke of Lancaster but his wife won't be Duchess of Lancaster.

The Great steward-title in fact is not really a title, but the name of a Royal office. The Stuarts (Stewarts) started their Royal carreer as Stewards of the king of Scotland, which was the second-in-power to the king. When Walter Stewart showed great sucess at the battle of Bannockburn, he was rewarded with the hand of Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I. (Bruce) of Scotland. When Marjorie's brother David II. died childless, her son Robert II. (Stewart), who had been Great Steward of Scotland and regent during king David II.'s minority became king in 1371 and founded the House of Stuart. Since then the position of Great Stewart of Scotland belonged to the heir apparent of the Scottish monarch. As women can't be heir apparent at the moment, there is no such office as "Great Stewardess". Of course, if the order of succession is changed and this change includes old Scottish titles, and William's first child is a daughter, she could be in her own right the first Princess of Wales, Duchess of Rothesay and Great Stewardess of Scotland. But quite some ifs....
Great! Question answered. Thanks so much for the info.
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