The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > British Royals > Prince Harry and Prince William

Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #221  
Old 01-23-2005, 04:04 PM
norwegianne's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rogaland, Norway
Posts: 5,993
Maybe just me, but I have trouble seeing that Harry would be allowed to join the army as an enlistee as long as the country is at war.

I don't question whether or not the discipline would be good for him.

I simply think that the person who is third in line to the throne wouldn't be allowed to seek out dangers. He'd be a living target in the war-zone, both for assassination attempts and kidnappings. If he was to join the army as enlisted personell there, it would be difficult to bring body-guards in.

That being said I also think that having some structure in his life would be good, whether that happens at a university, or at Sandhurst.
__________________

__________________
  #222  
Old 01-23-2005, 04:14 PM
Donna B.'s Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: KY, United States
Posts: 41
Quote:
Maybe just me, but I have trouble seeing that Harry would be allowed to join the army as an enlistee as long as the country is at war.
That's a good point Norwegianne. But I just remembered something. Prince Andrew went to war in the Falkland Islands when he was still third in line to the throne and was part of the active combat between Great Britain and Argentina. So, if it was okay for Andrew...then, well, Harry could be an enlisted man. I must say that I am opposed to war and wish NO ONE ever had to go!!! I truly hate it.

Donna B.
__________________

  #223  
Old 01-23-2005, 05:43 PM
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: ***, United States
Posts: 16,894
Prince Andrew was an officer all the time he was in the Navy. As far as I know, he was never an enlisted man. He went through training at Dartmouth, the naval equivalent of Sandhurst.

If Harry goes into the Army, he'll be expected to go into combat zones like any other person. The only areas he might be kept out of are ones where he could be in danger of being kidnapped and held hostage or something; I think that possibility is what stopped the Duke of Kent from being able to spend much time (if any) in Northern Ireland as a professional soldier and led to him leaving the Army before he would have otherwise done.
  #224  
Old 01-23-2005, 05:50 PM
Donna B.'s Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: KY, United States
Posts: 41
Hi Elspeth:)

Yes, Prince Andrew was an officer in the Navy during the Falkland Islands war. Even though his rank was higher than that of an enlisted man, he still served in the war and took part in active combat on the front lines. Prince Andrew flew combat helicopters during the Falkland war and was most definitely in harms way.

I still think that considering everything that's been happening with Harry, he should not have the privilege of going straight to Officer's Training. Starting out as a regular enlisted man would do him a world of good imo.

Donna B.
  #225  
Old 01-23-2005, 06:41 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna B.
I still think that considering everything that's been happening with Harry, he should not have the privilege of going straight to Officer's Training. Starting out as a regular enlisted man would do him a world of good imo.

Donna B.
I totally agree with you. Maybe Harry would mature a little.
  #226  
Old 01-23-2005, 10:47 PM
maryshawn's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Green Bay, United States
Posts: 1,213
Oh Elspeth, haven't they (the royal family) learned by now? When they impose a blackout and the media is left to conjecture, the problems multiply, not dissipate. From the emotions just on this forum and the poll results from the British people, this is one which should be taken on head on and addressed by Prince Charles in a suitable manner. THAT would definitely help, in my opinion--if he repudiates the behavior and judgement of Harry in this incident and makes clear his actions do not reflect the feelings of the Royal Family--in fact, they are mortified and deeply apologetic for the offence it has caused. I do believe Harry loves his father and seeing him having to apologize for his behavior MIGHT cause him to think twice before engaging in this type of thing ever again. Just a thought.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspeth
I don't think he has. In time-honoured tradition, it's being left to spokesmen to make statements. The last thing I heard (also from a Clarence House spokesman) was that a news blackout was being imposed as far as Harry's activities are concerned. Strikes me as a pretty stupid move; the media will take it as a challenge, and when there's a vacuum it'll be repalced by something, whether it's true or not.
  #227  
Old 01-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 1,487
I read in an article that PCharles made Harry work on the farm (and thatincluded messing with the pig waste). ALso charles wants him to go to auschwitz
__________________
*Under Construction*
  #228  
Old 01-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Danielle's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 2,954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reina
I read in an article that PCharles made Harry work on the farm (and thatincluded messing with the pig waste). ALso charles wants him to go to auschwitz
I don't see what working on a farm is going to achieve. What, pat a few animals, shovel a bit of manure, and everyone’s forgotten about what he did? No, I don’t think so. I agree with Charles and with many Holocaust survivors; he should spend time at Auschwitz and see what the regime's symbol he wore on his arm, did. All I can say is that I'm really glad that William is in line to the throne before Harry, and that I hope we won't have to hear about any more idiotic 'jokes' from him again.
__________________

  #229  
Old 01-24-2005, 12:29 AM
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: ***, United States
Posts: 16,894
Quote:
Oh Elspeth, haven't they (the royal family) learned by now? When they impose a blackout and the media is left to conjecture, the problems multiply, not dissipate.
Really, somebody's giving them some very bad advice over this. I'm not sure where the news blackout directive came from, but whoever did it has made a very bad mistake, I think.
  #230  
Old 01-24-2005, 10:47 AM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: , United States
Posts: 245
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reina
I read in an article that PCharles made Harry work on the farm (and thatincluded messing with the pig waste). ALso charles wants him to go to auschwitz
I hope one of those pigs will give him a swift kick in the shin. Means he will stay out of the Army longer. Do you honestly believe any rank & file soldier will have any respect for an Officer Henry Wales?
  #231  
Old 01-24-2005, 06:46 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,194
None whatsoever.
  #232  
Old 03-16-2005, 08:05 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: glasgow, United Kingdom
Posts: 363
I have never thought that when Harry wore the Nazi uniform the issue was whether he was racist or not. I think the question is whether he fully grasps the responsibility of his position and I think that at this point in time the answer is no. At a recent Halloween party two of my friends came dressed as Nazis and no one batted an eyelid, the reason being that all of the partgoers knew them and knew that, of course, they didn't agree with genoicide etc it was merley a party and they wore the costumes in a mocking fashion as I am sure Harry did. But the point is that he is a Prince so he should have steered clear of anything that was controversial which really included not going to any function dubbed "Natives and Colonials" as William also should have, in the first place. The main problem in the Royal Family is all round arrogance. I read the other day that Zara Philips has called her horse Tsunami II even though Princess Anne's advisors strongly warned against it. They ought to remember that they don't have an automatic right to a lifestyle funded by the taxpayer. Although they are not elected they should not think that they are indispensable. The Royal Family exist through the goodwill of the people and they take advantage of that goodwill at their peril.
  #233  
Old 03-17-2005, 07:28 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,194
True, they are far too arrogent. But that is practically the tradition for them, and traditions are hard to get rid of.
  #234  
Old 03-18-2005, 06:51 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: glasgow, United Kingdom
Posts: 363
I agree googlofcrazypeople. The problem for them nowadays is that we live in the modern age. In the past they could get away with inappropriate behaviour as their position was never questioned but now people are more sophisticated and educated and whereas many, including myself, still agree with the concept of monarchy it HAS to be monarchy which is on a par with the attitudes of the people. If it isn't then they are doomed because their "subjects" can very easily dispense with them.
  #235  
Old 03-18-2005, 07:47 PM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 1,487
LOL. It is gaggleofcrazypeople. At 1st I thought you were callling googlers crazy. Lol.
__________________
*Under Construction*
  #236  
Old 03-18-2005, 08:21 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: glasgow, United Kingdom
Posts: 363
Sorry for the mis-spelling but I agree with you anyway.
  #237  
Old 03-18-2005, 11:00 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,194
Thats ok. But thank you for agreeing with me.
  #238  
Old 03-20-2005, 07:59 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 705
Quote:
Originally Posted by james
I have never thought that when Harry wore the Nazi uniform the issue was whether he was racist or not. I think the question is whether he fully grasps the responsibility of his position and I think that at this point in time the answer is no. At a recent Halloween party two of my friends came dressed as Nazis and no one batted an eyelid, the reason being that all of the partgoers knew them and knew that, of course, they didn't agree with genoicide etc it was merley a party and they wore the costumes in a mocking fashion as I am sure Harry did.
I think it's shameful that anybody would go to a party dressed as a Nazi. It doesn't matter if everyone else at the party knows you or knows what kind of a person you supposedly are. To show up at a party - a fun and frivolous occasion - dressed as a Nazi is inconsiderate and insolent when you consider the millions of lives lost and affected by the Nazi regime.

Quote:
Originally Posted by james
They ought to remember that they don't have an automatic right to a lifestyle funded by the taxpayer. Although they are not elected they should not think that they are indispensable. The Royal Family exist through the goodwill of the people and they take advantage of that goodwill at their peril.
On this I agree with you. The younger generation of royals don't seem to want to work as hard as their parents and grandparents did to preserve and maintain the integrity of the monarchy. Harry wearing the Nazi costume to a party and Zara naming her horse Tsunami II are just two examples of the younger generation of the Windsors not fully aware of their role and responsibility.
  #239  
Old 03-21-2005, 06:48 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,194
All of that money towards their education has gone to waste.
  #240  
Old 04-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: glasgow, United Kingdom
Posts: 363
Princss Anne said in the eighties with regards to Royal engagements, " I don't think the next generation will want to be involved at all ". I remember reading that at the time and thinking it an odd thing for her to say as we all took it for granted that William, Harry etc would automatically step into their parents footsteps when they came of age. But she seems to have been very perceptive in hindsight. The Royal youngsters seem to have a belief that they can just "do their own thing" but they really can't if the Monarchy is to survive. It's not only to do with involvement in Royal affairs but also in their behaviour and that of the company they keep. Only yesterday I read that William and Harry were in a nightclub in Klosters where there friend Guy Pelly, who is known for his drug taking and impersonations their grandmother ( which they seem to find a hoot) stripped down to his underwear. This boy is constantly with them and he seems to be a complete idiot. If this is the company they keep then it dosn't say much for them but all in all they don't seem to care.
__________________

Closed Thread

Tags
afrika korps uniform, costume party, prince harry


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Royals in National Costume pollyemma Royal Style File 49 09-05-2015 03:27 PM
The "Costume" Interview with Princess Alexandra: July 2004 Chatleen Royal House of Denmark 32 02-05-2005 07:33 AM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit catherine middleton style coup d'etat crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion crown princess mette-marit current events duchess of cambridge e-mail fashion poll fox news grahamm grand duke jean greece kate middleton king abdulah ii king abdullah ii king felipe king felipe vi king willem-alexander member introduction monarchy new zealand nobel gala norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week prince bernhard prince charles princess eugenie eveningwear princess ingrid alexandra princess madeleine princess marie princess mary princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen letizia style queen mathilde queen mathildes outfits queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania revolution royal fashion september 2016 state visit state visit to denmark succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:32 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016
Jelsoft Enterprises