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Well, it is hard to just dump a friend like that, but it seems needed at this point.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:38 AM
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I agree. But you know what else is sad is that ppl are ok with interracial marriages b/t asains (alexandra of denmark) and caucasians and even cubans (maria teresa of luxembourg) and caucasians, but if it ever came to a relationship b/t a black and a caucasian then whewww-there will be a big dillemma. This is insanely sad and hypocritical esp. the ones who say the USA is closeminded. Anyway this view should not be and I hope one of the heirs to the throne marries a nice, bllack lady that he is in love with and wants to share his life with. But just think of what she could go through. She could possibly be disdained by the public and other members of other royal families, but I pray that this is not the case.
Prince HArry should be careful of what he says cuz it could hurt alot of ppl.
I"m Cuban. Cubans, like Americans can be of any race such as Caucasion, Native Indian, African descent, etc. or mixed (mestizo or mulatto). My own family for example descends from Spaniards, Frenchman, and Germans, and my birth certificate, passport, and driver license list me as White for race. My ethnic group is Latin or Hispanic.

This was a mistake of youth and I am sure Harry will never do anything remotely like it again.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:46 AM
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Well, I don't even know what Nazi costumes have to do with a costume party whose theme was "colonial and native," but whatever.
I'm still scratching my head over that one. Who comes up with these 'themes?
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:55 AM
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I have never thought that when Harry wore the Nazi uniform the issue was whether he was racist or not. I think the question is whether he fully grasps the responsibility of his position and I think that at this point in time the answer is no. At a recent Halloween party two of my friends came dressed as Nazis and no one batted an eyelid, the reason being that all of the partgoers knew them and knew that, of course, they didn't agree with genoicide etc it was merley a party and they wore the costumes in a mocking fashion as I am sure Harry did.
How can one wear a Nazi costume in a mocking way and what is there to mock about with 20 million deaths?
I think it is a cultural thing, countries who suffered under Nazi occupation are more sensitive to it then for example, british, who did not witness the atrocities of this regime first hand, and maybe it is also a question of a good education/upbringing, taste and intelligence (we can not accuse harry of having even one of the four).
Has the guy visited Auschwitz by now btw? I thought that was what Clarence House suggested (instead of an apology).
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:57 AM
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I never found the humor in it. They said it was supposed to be funny, but I found nothing funny about it! I was greatly offended and discusted! There is nothing funny about Nazis, especially that they are still around.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:20 AM
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Post Prince Harry's Nazi Costume

Why is this active again? Harry is doing fine at Sandhurst. He has said sorry again in his 21st birthday interview.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:47 AM
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Well, I don't even know what Nazi costumes have to do with a costume party whose theme was "colonial and native," but whatever.
Harry's costume was supposedly based on Erwin Rommel who led the German forces in colonial Africa at the beginning of the war.

Rommel's allegiance to the Nazis was not all that certain during the war. Several of his closest aides had been implicated in a plot to assassinate Hitler and he was suspected of involvement though it was never proven. Nazi officials complained that he was constantly and vehemently disparaging their leadership. He was forced by Hitler to face a choice of a sham trial or suicide and he chose suicide.

Now I don't really think Harry knew all this when he wore the costume and the colonial theme is tasteless enough even without Rommel's costume.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:09 PM
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Why is this active again? Harry is doing fine at Sandhurst. He has said sorry again in his 21st birthday interview.
I think everyone is just bored because Harry hasn't been in the news lately.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:46 PM
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How can one wear a Nazi costume in a mocking way and what is there to mock about with 20 million deaths?
I think it is a cultural thing, countries who suffered under Nazi occupation are more sensitive to it then for example, british, who did not witness the atrocities of this regime first hand, and maybe it is also a question of a good education/upbringing, taste and intelligence (we can not accuse harry of having even one of the four).
Has the guy visited Auschwitz by now btw? I thought that was what Clarence House suggested (instead of an apology).
52 Million people were killed in WWII worldwide, I'm not sure how many were killed directly by the Nazis, a large amount by the Japanese,and many by the allied forces and Stalin, just for your knowledge.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:48 PM
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Now I don't really think Harry knew all this when he wore the costume and the colonial theme is tasteless enough even without Rommel's costume.
Your right, Harry is not smart enough to know all this. On the other hand we are!
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:34 PM
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Harry's costume was supposedly based on Erwin Rommel who led the German forces in colonial Africa at the beginning of the war.

Rommel's allegiance to the Nazis was not all that certain during the war. Several of his closest aides had been implicated in a plot to assassinate Hitler and he was suspected of involvement though it was never proven. Nazi officials complained that he was constantly and vehemently disparaging their leadership. He was forced by Hitler to face a choice of a sham trial or suicide and he chose suicide.

Now I don't really think Harry knew all this when he wore the costume and the colonial theme is tasteless enough even without Rommel's costume.
My uncle told me Rommel was a good man and a good soldier who was anti-Hitler and they forced him to either kill himself or face execution.

Anyway Harry I am sure is much more aware now and knows to be careful, and more sensitive in future.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:35 PM
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I think everyone is just bored because Harry hasn't been in the news lately.
I think it is my fault. I am new here and posted to an older thread.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:51 PM
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My uncle told me Rommel was a good man and a good soldier who was anti-Hitler and they forced him to either kill himself or face execution.

Anyway Harry I am sure is much more aware now and knows to be careful, and more sensitive in future.
Good point, Queen Mary I. The colonial theme makes me wonder what some of the other kids were wearing. Not exactly politically correct, would you say?

I think they were willing for Harry to take so much flak for the Nazi costume so that people wouldn't wonder what in the blazes these young kids were up to.

Don't worry about resurrecting an old thread. It happens all the time and sometimes its quite fun. :)
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:47 PM
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Good point, Queen Mary I. The colonial theme makes me wonder what some of the other kids were wearing. Not exactly politically correct, would you say?

I think they were willing for Harry to take so much flak for the Nazi costume so that people wouldn't wonder what in the blazes these young kids were up to.

Don't worry about resurrecting an old thread. It happens all the time and sometimes its quite fun. :)
Thanks. I feel a little better. :) I seem to keep putting my foot in the doodoo. :o

Now what I want to know is-what was William wearing and where are the pics?!
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Wasn't William wearing a lion costume of something?
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Old 11-17-2005, 03:19 PM
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Not exactly politically correct, would you say?

I think they were willing for Harry to take so much flak for the Nazi costume so that people wouldn't wonder what in the blazes these young kids were up to.

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Don't forget that this was supposed to be a private party, none of them were trying to make a statement. I would think we have all made terrible gaffs in our youth, that we would hope no one would ever find out about.
How many of us can say we have never done or said something totally inappropriate?
It was a daft thing to wear but I would like to know, why the hire shop had a nazi uniform in it's stock!
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:01 AM
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I do agree this party was suposed to be private and once the media found out they blew it out of proportion. I had read some newspapers and he was on every cover!
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Yeha, it was suppose to be a 'private' party but, I hope he's learned his lesson, that you have to watchful at all times. You never know when someone might take a pic. I do question his motives, I mean the boy can't be so dumb to not know the effect of his actions? he seems a bit immature to me. Hopefully he'll shape up, and won't be so ignorant next time :)
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Considering Harry has 3 great uncles (the brothers-in-law of Prince Phillip), if I'm not mistaken, who served in the German Army during WWII, and a grandfather who served in the British Navy and grandmother in the ATS, you would think he would be a little more attuned to history. Guess not...

Sorry to see the sacrifice of so many people so casually brushed aside by him.
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Considering Harry has 3 great uncles (the brothers-in-law of Prince Phillip), if I'm not mistaken, who served in the German Army during WWII, and a grandfather who served in the British Navy and grandmother in the ATS, you would think he would be a little more attuned to history. Guess not...

Sorry to see the sacrifice of so many people so casually brushed aside by him.
Especially by someone with so many "German" ancestors....
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