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Old 06-04-2016, 06:22 PM
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True. Look at the royal marriages.

Compare Elizabeth and her sister even:

Margaret and Tony had a tumultuous marriage which ended after multiple affairs on both sides.
-their son David has been married since 1993 to Serena (23 yeas in October) and have 2 children.
- their daughter Sarah married a year later (22 years in July) and has 2 kids

Elizabeth and Philip have been married for nearly 70 years.
-Charles and Diana divorced after affairs on both sides- separated after 11 years of marriage, problems started 5 years in
-Anne and Mark-divorced after 19 years of marriage and 2 kids. Though she has now been married for 24 years to Tim
-Andrew and Sarah separated after 6 years of marriage

Parents being married certainly does not assure a man or woman will have a stable married life themselves. It is often the very opposite. William is likely to work even harder not to divorce as he wont want to put his kids through what he and Harry were put through.

Cressida may have watched her parents divorce and then her stepfather cheat and leave them, but she obviously has a very close knit family. She is close to Isabella and Jacobi, and her other half-siblings from her mother's earlier marriages.That in itself offers some comfort and stability. Considering Harry and Will are close friends with Jacobi and Isabella, that adds.
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Old 06-04-2016, 06:58 PM
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How he treats vets on the job shouldn't be exaggerated. But unfortunately it does as long as he's single. It's way easier to see him smiling in the company of a respectable and brave young female. there needs to be more than hugs as proof of chemistry. Being an ex seems more logical to believe they have a stronger chance than women he spoke to for a week. Whether or not he gets linked to a pretty young courageous veteran. There still not enough reason or proof he'd go back to an ex. Neither ex or American military women have yet to show signs of a future relationship with him.

Jacobi isn't a friend of either princes, or at least friendly enough to go hang out with the two. Will ignored the Bransons at the James bond premiere. Harry didn't but it was to Sam and Isabella. Nothing near close but on friendly terms.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:24 PM
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What the heck does sins of the father have to do with this? Will people stop quoting bumper stickers on this board?! What I am saying is that a persons past can be a good indicator or how their future will go or at least hownit will be impacted. What environment Cressida grew up in and also who and how she was raised made an impact. A mother is a huge role model so having one with multiple husbands and children from them all isn't a good sign. Plus Cressida's desire for fame is the real issue. I've never cared one way or another about their relationship. I know its over but I personally hope to see him pursuing a woman who is not blonde.
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My opinion is not based on Harry hugging Elizabeth... as a matter of fact, this did not factor... I have a research background and do know about non-verbal communication and body language... I will not elaborate...

I however believe that Elizabeth has been the closest "fit" I have seen. Period. Harry will get married, eventually. What people fail to recognise is that Harry is now a 31 year old ex-soldier / and businessman running a number of charities and organisations. Can you see him - in his position - NOW, not 3 years ago when he was with Cressida or 8 years ago with Chelsy?? He needs a self-assured, WOMAN with gravitas who can stand next to him or support him with confidence and when necessary is able to hold her own dealing with the public and the press.

Regarding Cressida, without knowing her personally, (maybe there is someone lurking who does) my opinion is quite clinical, and IMO this is a car crash waiting to happen, a la Sarah Ferguson. Yes, she is probably more media savvy now, based on her present vocation as an actress, socialite, regular London Fashion Week FROW attendee. Firstly I believe that she is sadly lacking in gravitas, and emotional stability. Secondly, no matter how you wish to frame it, your upbringing does have an impact on your ability to establish stable relationships. If neither party has a benchmark, foundation or compass of sorts - where the norm has been relationships which are loose and /or transient, then IMO, you are already on the back foot... and let's face it, maybe that's why she appears to be emotionally fragile. Who can forget the public meltdown she had 2 years ago? so much so that she needed to take compassionate leave from her job?? that's crazy!!! Do you actually believe that someone with that sort of temperament will be able to handle the pressures of being the wife of a Senior member of the RF... well, this is my opinion. But Harry will make his choice, eventually.

I am a firm believer that things will always work out in the long run. Charles eventually married Camilla; Ann eventually found someone she settled with. The only relationship which has been solid from the beginning is Edward and Sophie... both from stable family units... IMO
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:22 PM
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My opinion is not based on Harry hugging Elizabeth... as a matter of fact, this did not factor... I have a research background and do know about non-verbal communication and body language... I will not elaborate...

I however believe that Elizabeth has been the closest "fit" I have seen. Period. Harry will get married, eventually. What people fail to recognise is that Harry is now a 31 year old ex-soldier / and businessman running a number of charities and organisations. Can you see him - in his position - NOW, not 3 years ago when he was with Cressida or 8 years ago with Chelsy?? He needs a self-assured, WOMAN with gravitas who can stand next to him or support him with confidence and when necessary is able to hold her own dealing with the public and the press.

Regarding Cressida, without knowing her personally, (maybe there is someone lurking who does) my opinion is quite clinical, and IMO this is a car crash waiting to happen, a la Sarah Ferguson. Yes, she is probably more media savvy now, based on her present vocation as an actress, socialite, regular London Fashion Week FROW attendee. Firstly I believe that she is sadly lacking in gravitas, and emotional stability. Secondly, no matter how you wish to frame it, your upbringing does have an impact on your ability to establish stable relationships. If neither party has a benchmark, foundation or compass of sorts - where the norm has been relationships which are loose and /or transient, then IMO, you are already on the back foot... and let's face it, maybe that's why she appears to be emotionally fragile. Who can forget the public meltdown she had 2 years ago? so much so that she needed to take compassionate leave from her job?? that's crazy!!! Do you actually believe that someone with that sort of temperament will be able to handle the pressures of being the wife of a Senior member of the RF... well, this is my opinion. But Harry will make his choice, eventually.

I am a firm believer that things will always work out in the long run. Charles eventually married Camilla; Ann eventually found someone she settled with. The only relationship which has been solid from the beginning is Edward and Sophie... both from stable family units... IMO
Yes Harry is 31 and a soldier. And so far the only thing we have is a picture of a hug, and you stating 'she is a soldier, she has something in common'. Well so do thousands of other female soldiers. If you are going to brag you have this great insider information, better have more to share.
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:02 PM
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My opinion is not based on Harry hugging Elizabeth... as a matter of fact, this did not factor... I have a research background and do know about non-verbal communication and body language... I will not elaborate...

I however believe that Elizabeth has been the closest "fit" I have seen. Period. Harry will get married, eventually. What people fail to recognise is that Harry is now a 31 year old ex-soldier / and businessman running a number of charities and organisations. Can you see him - in his position - NOW, not 3 years ago when he was with Cressida or 8 years ago with Chelsy?? He needs a self-assured, WOMAN with gravitas who can stand next to him or support him with confidence and when necessary is able to hold her own dealing with the public and the press.

Regarding Cressida, without knowing her personally, (maybe there is someone lurking who does) my opinion is quite clinical, and IMO this is a car crash waiting to happen, a la Sarah Ferguson. Yes, she is probably more media savvy now, based on her present vocation as an actress, socialite, regular London Fashion Week FROW attendee. Firstly I believe that she is sadly lacking in gravitas, and emotional stability. Secondly, no matter how you wish to frame it, your upbringing does have an impact on your ability to establish stable relationships. If neither party has a benchmark, foundation or compass of sorts - where the norm has been relationships which are loose and /or transient, then IMO, you are already on the back foot... and let's face it, maybe that's why she appears to be emotionally fragile. Who can forget the public meltdown she had 2 years ago? so much so that she needed to take compassionate leave from her job?? that's crazy!!! Do you actually believe that someone with that sort of temperament will be able to handle the pressures of being the wife of a Senior member of the RF... well, this is my opinion. But Harry will make his choice, eventually.

I am a firm believer that things will always work out in the long run. Charles eventually married Camilla; Ann eventually found someone she settled with. The only relationship which has been solid from the beginning is Edward and Sophie... both from stable family units... IMO
I mean if your opinion isn't based on that, then the media certainly gave folks the impression that its what the opinions of a romance was based on. Maybe it's because kirstie Ennis another amputee vet was shipped with harry as well over a hug. In fact some have known the similarities between both vets to know that Liz is just another gf candidate like Ennis, that has a significant other. Neither should have to be taken seriously by every poster here because this is a forum where each member is entitled to their very own opinion. No need to be feeling attacked personally. Its interesting to agree to disagree.
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:03 PM
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I don't have a horse running in this race. It would be great if Harry could date Elizabeth, or find a soldier like her, brave, efficient, hard working. However, if it is to be Elizabeth, and there's no evidence that it is, other than she and Harry liking each other when they met at the IG, then this is going to be a very long distance relationship.

Admittedly, Harry had one before with Chelsy, many moons ago, and there were many problems attached to the arrangement, as we know. These two very young people spent months apart and did a lot of flying, spending holidays together. Whether Harry at 31 and Elizabeth at her age would be prepared to do that with their lifestyles as they are now is doubtful, IMO. However I could be wrong. I've been so before!

As for Cress, I've said before and am sticking to it for now, that ship has sailed IMO. Whatever broke them up, (and though I'm a terrific Harry fan I think it was his attitude of 'drop everything you're doing, we have to go to...' in this instance, 'Guy's wedding' that probably caused a cataclysmic quarrel and break-up) I think the same problems would be there if they resumed dating.

It would be far better for Harry, I think, to choose someone who (a) works solidly and well at a career and profession and (b) knows at least something of how the BRF operates, so she could blend into that world and (c) most important of all, love and be loyal to Harry for the rest of their lives. It would be great if she came from a stable background, but it's not essential.

Where Harry is to find such a phenomenon I don't know. Up to now his serious romances have been with free-spirited girls who didn't want Royal life. My fear is that, as he gets into his thirties he will just 'settle' as his father did in 1981, and not be wholeheartedly into the marriage.

By the way, I tend to think that the way you approach marriage and commitment is the most important component in a stable union. If you leave the royals for a minute and look at the Spencers, Diana's generation split two-two. Born from a marriage that ended in a nasty split and divorce, Jane and Sarah have had marriages lasting decades. Earl Spencer is on his fourth marriage, (fidelity anyone?) and we know what happened to Diana.
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Diana and Charles were very young when they lost their mother, Jane and Sarah were already in school. And both Sarah Ferguson and her sister ate divorced. Princess Margaret was divoreced but I believe both her children are still married.
I also get a Fergie vibe from Cressida but I have no explanation for it but why is she even up for discussion? Haven't they been over and done for 3 years?
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Actually, there has been no one that's come to the forefront that I think Harry would get serious about. I still think what that man needs is a good dog. Dogs are such an excellent judge of character so Harry would have his own personal screening department.
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He has gone way down the list aftwr,George and Charlotte. He is only 31, I see no rush I the matter.
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Old 06-05-2016, 02:40 AM
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I've edited a few posts. Please remember to be respectful to your fellow members. Also, Harry and Cressida's upbringing is not what this thread about. Let's try and keep it on Harry and his relationships.
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Old 06-05-2016, 03:22 AM
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As you know, I am rooting for Harry and Elizabeth - big time.
I follow her on Insta and was surprised to see her comment.
Quote: "defiantly not married love. divorced."


Harry and Elizabeth Pelly follow her. she does not seem to follow them back (I am new to Insta so please feel free to correct me if it is the other way around).
He does not follow Kirstie

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That's a bit of a strange thing to decide to do! A bit of an inappropriate channel!

This is an article about Elizabeth and the man who is, or was, her 'man-mountain' husband.


Who is Elizabeth Marks? Beautiful US soldier who kissed Prince Harry has mystery illness and man-mountain husband - Mirror Online

I agree She was responding to guy who asked if she is single and suggesting she and Harry should do something about it. I thought it was not necessary to answer him.
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If and when Harry is dating someone, I sincerely hope that the media and sources providing information to the media will leave them well alone to establish the basis for a possible long-term relationship.
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"Countmeout: Yes Harry is 31 and a soldier. And so far the only thing we have is a picture of a hug, and you stating 'she is a soldier, she has something in common'. Well so do thousands of other female soldiers. If you are going to brag you have this great insider information, better have more to share."
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Actually, I do not and have NEVER stated that I have insider information. I have stated my opinion, as everyone else does, and I also do this from a professional perspective. The only "hug picture" of significance to me, is the one of PHarry greeting her with a kiss at the Rugby match. I will not expand on anything else.

Think you may be confusing me with someone else, you are attributing other people's comments to me -- 'she is a soldier, she has something in common' -- sorry, not me, didn't post that.
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"Mrs Littrell: I follow her on Insta and was surprised to see her comment.
Quote: "defiantly not married love. divorced."
Obviously I have a picture of comments as well

Harry and Elizabeth Pelly follow her. she does not seem to follow them back (I am new to Insta so please feel free to correct me if it is the other way around).
He does not follow Kirstie"

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I also follow her on Insta but haven't seen that comment about being divorced... I have seen Elizabeth Pelly following her but very much doubt Sgt Marks even knows who she is. So I don't see why she would follow her.

Lizzypelly's account is private - I have sent a follow request to her but very much doubt that she will respond. I have not been able to identify PHarry on Insta.
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I've looked up all her posts from the week before invictus till now, and have never found a divorce statement on her ig. There is also a rumor she announced that on an ig harry fan page yesterday. Can't tell who's right or wrong.

And FYI, harry not following kirstie Ennis on instagram didn't mean he never cared too much about her. He sent her a gift and called her everyday during the week after her leg was amputated. Imo he doesn't care more or less for a vet involved with invictus whether they are male or female. But anyone here is welcome to disagree with me.
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I don't know but somehow I think its highly unlikely that she would make an "announcement" on a Harry fan site or make a public statement regarding something which is of a highly personal nature.. that would be a bit bizarre, given her military training yada yada. More importantly, she is DEEP in training and focused on preparing for trials and then Rio... her focus has to be elsewhere. Think someone is trying to make trouble. Its only a matter of time before she changes her privacy settings.

Somehow, I think its just rumour... nothing to it.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:36 AM
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Not a rumor, Ladies. again, I would not have said it unless it came from her personally. which is very easy to check.

If you go to her Insta, scroll trough pictures she was tag in, click on the photo she is in with Harry (there 2 of them-one from medal event (that's the one comment is) and the American team with flag), click on the first one which will lead you to hrhprinceharryofengland Instagram fan page. and there you have it. the last 2 comments under that picture are from her. (date 13 of May)

If you aint have time for that:
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I have two problems with this, why would you announce it on a fan page? And definitely is spelt wrong.

Is her page verified in anyway?
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I have two problems with this, why would you announce it on a fan page? And definitely is spelt wrong.

Is her page verified in anyway?
that was my initial thought as well (about announcement)

yes, thats her page. she has her siblings on it ( pictures, friends and their comments are there) and team members as friends.
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