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Old 12-09-2016, 12:45 AM
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Tom Markel, Meghan's father, is Jewish, but her mother isn't. Doesn't Judaism come through the maternal line? Some people at an LA synagogue reportedly stated that she was active there when she was younger and living in that city. In earlier, rather elderly biographies posted on the Internet, Meghan is listed as Jewish. I'm not sure whether her ex husband is Jewish. They didn't marry in a synagogue.

However, there have been no reports from Toronto that Meghan is active in any synagogue there. She attended a Roman Catholic school and had a non-denominational wedding in Jamaica. This suggests to me a fluid attitude towards religious expression.
Her ex husband is Jewish. She's mentioned celebrating Easters and Christmases but never any Jewish holidays. She's also written of her father celebrating Christmases as a child so if he's Jewish I wonder if he converted at a later age?
She's worn a St. Christopher pendant a couple of times in the past but that's really the only sign of Catholicism I've seen. If I were to take a guess, I wouldn't think she'd have a problem converting.
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Old 12-09-2016, 01:19 AM
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Victoria Arbiter was on CNN to discuss Harry and she said she'd be shocked if there was a marriage proposal in the near future. Mostly for the same reasons people here are saying.

She said Meghan maybe the one or maybe not but they've only had a handful of dates and until she gets a taste of life in the global fishbowl it's too early to talk marriage.
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Old 12-09-2016, 01:23 AM
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She wouldn't really need to convert as I understand it. Not since they change things. Harry can marry a Catholic without losing his place in the line of succesion.


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Old 12-09-2016, 02:03 AM
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Victoria Arbiter has NO IDEA what she is talking about...She doesn't know how often Harry and Meghan meet up...Harry and Meghan have been VERY DISCREET in their meetings I doubt Victoria has a tracking device on Harry...After his recent hush trip to Toronto I can't take her seriously anymore.Harry and Meghan are too good at being sneaky for me to agree with the 8 days together...It may even be true but I'm NOT taking it from Victoria...
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:38 AM
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I do think that her religion (if she is Catholic) combined with her divorce might prevent a big wedding in Westminster Abbey. Technically, the CoE does allow it, and Harry wasn't a cause of Meghan's divorce so I don't think the CoE would object to a church wedding in itself... but they might go for a "lesser" church. Andrew and Anne both got married in the Abbey, but Edward didn't, and Harry at this point is only the grandchild of the monarch, even if his position is fairly comparable to Andrew's.
I also can't see Harry and Meghan getting a Westminster Abbey wedding. While the CoE is somewhat more lenient about divorcees(at least publicly ) , there would be major grumbling behind the scenes if WA was used for such a ceremony. You also have to think about the optics. Charles as a future King only got a civil wedding followed by a blessing, the 5th in-line getting preferential treatment to Charles would look odd. Divorcee Camilla will always outrank divorcee Meghan, so anything other than a civil wedding followed by a blessing for Meghan would make Camilla look 'tainted' and only begrudgingly accepted. Best to just tow the line.

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I must be the only one who has never been offended by the 'whatever love means' remark. Any well established couple will tell you that relationships evolve. That first giddy rush of infatuation at some point becomes a more steadfast and deeper love. Both are love - just different stages. There are many scientific studies about all of this stuff, they've even measured the typical length of the infatuation/lust phase. Many relationships founder after that initial thrill fades and don't make it to the long term phase. Cressida never made it to that phase IMO, w/ Chelsey I'm not sure.
Harry has always seemed more impulsive than William, he leads with his heart (although William did break all kinds of rules when he landed his military helicopter in the Middleon garden.) Harry's diversion from Barbados to see Meghan strikes me as something a love struck BF would do, a more established couple is typically more measured. I'm not criticizing them - just suggesting it's the type of gesture more often seen w/ newly formed couples.
Wonder if Meghan will be Harry's plus one at Pippa's May wedding
Yes most psychologists and evolutionary biologists say lust/infatuation lasts for 4 years. That's why so many relationships end around that mark. They say the 7-year itch is a myth, it's the 4-year itch. Like you said Cressida never made it to that stage. With Chelsy it's hard to say since so much of their relationship was conducted long distance, it sort of put them in this artificial timeline, because the distance allowed them to put bubble wrap on any gripes and incompatibilities they had with one another.

Pippa's church only holds about 150 people, reportedly. No way in hell would Harry get a plus-one. Heck, Harry might not get an invite, himself. She has a lot of friends she needs to try to fit in, and Harry is just an acquaintance, an in-law of her sister.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:38 AM
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Victoria Arbiter has NO IDEA what she is talking about...She doesn't know how often Harry and Meghan meet up...Harry and Meghan have been VERY DISCREET in their meetings I doubt Victoria has a tracking device on Harry...After his recent hush trip to Toronto I can't take her seriously anymore.Harry and Meghan are too good at being sneaky for me to agree with the 8 days together...It may even be true but I'm NOT taking it from Victoria...
So true! We don't know how long they have been together and how much. Those two have been very good at being sneaky. We also don't what they have talked about and to whom regarding a marriage or anything else.

Also, many keep saying it's too soon to talk marriage, but it not about what you or we think. Has anyone thought that Harry may not see it your way, that it is too soon etc?

What if reports are right and he proposes over the holidays? Well, you disagree, okay! What can you do about Harry's decision, if he does propose to Meghan.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:50 AM
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Victoria Arbiter has NO IDEA what she is talking about...She doesn't know how often Harry and Meghan meet up...Harry and Meghan have been VERY DISCREET in their meetings I doubt Victoria has a tracking device on Harry...After his recent hush trip to Toronto I can't take her seriously anymore.Harry and Meghan are too good at being sneaky for me to agree with the 8 days together...It may even be true but I'm NOT taking it from Victoria...
Yes, Victoria Arbiter is not good at keeping track of royal relationships. Just the other day she said Catherine met HM after dating William for 3 years. We all know Catherine met HM in May 2008, so dippy V. Arbiter thinks W and C started dating in 2005.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:58 AM
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Victoria Arbiter has NO IDEA what she is talking about...She doesn't know how often Harry and Meghan meet up...Harry and Meghan have been VERY DISCREET in their meetings I doubt Victoria has a tracking device on Harry...After his recent hush trip to Toronto I can't take her seriously anymore.Harry and Meghan are too good at being sneaky for me to agree with the 8 days together...It may even be true but I'm NOT taking it from Victoria...

I'm not sure why you are using capitals which equal shouting and I have a feeling she might know more than you and me.
Until they are living a normal life together it's much too soon to talk weddings
All the hiding and sneaking around can make it very exciting and fun but that's not the life they will lead if they marry. It will be like how every other royal lives and works unless Harry walked away and can't see that happening


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Old 12-09-2016, 03:41 AM
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I think there are only a very few people who have any clue what's going on, and how often Meghan and Harry have met up. As of now, she's Harry's girlfriend. That's it. He has shown, that he'll have her back, and will go for the extra mile for her. But that doesn't mean engagement, or marriage is in plans any time soon. She's important to him, he wants to be with her, and she's a priority for him (judging by his actions). I think this has got some fans and the media on their toes.

I don't think neither Harry or Meghan are stupid or naive. They know this relationship, if it lasts, will be a huge adjustment for her. I think Harry is trying to make it as easy as possible for her, but it's still a lot. She needs time to get used to it, to adjust.
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:33 AM
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Hmm...

I think it's likely they'll spend New Year's together. Not necessarily Christmas - Harry's likely to spend that with the family, and Meghan isn't likely to get an invite there. New Years is different, and I doubt there's any reason one or the other can't fly to visit, perhaps even for longer than a weekend. January is typically a slow royal month. Likewise, it's unlikely that Harry isn't going to do a ski trip at some point this winter, and I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan joins - remember, that's how we first got pictures of him with Cressida.

I don't think we're likely to see Harry, let alone Meghan, at Catherine or William's birthdays. Eugenie's is different, and it'll be interesting to see if any of Harry's exes are also there.

-Eugenie’s 27th birthday. Harry and Eugenie are very close and he usually attends her birthdays, so this is a good possibility. I believe Chelsy and Harry were somewhat on/off throughout their relationship, plus he was a lot younger when Peter turned 30 and Camilla 60 which could have influenced the lack of a date.

I don't know if Meghan'll show up at polo - it'd be interesting as polo games tend to be such huge family things, with the Cambridges, Harry, Anne and Tim, the Phillips, the Tindalls, and even the Wessexes sometimes in attendance. Wimbledon is probably a given - didn't it come out that Meghan attended Wimbledon this year in the royal box? What would also be interesting is if she goes to Ascot, although that's a stretch - Harry doesn't typical attend himself.

I think it's likely that Meghan'll be his plus-one at Skippy's wedding. It would be odd if she wasn't, to be honest - as if Harry were deliberately hiding her.
Great list. But she will only be able to make it to any of these if it fits with her proffesional schedual. Shooting movies/series don't get reschedualed just because she is dating a prince.
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Old 12-09-2016, 08:23 AM
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I think the only reason the Queen's children had to get married in Civil Ceremonies is because they already had their televised weddings that British Taxpayers paid for...Royal weddings are not cheap at all...If they wanted to give Harry and Meghan a Royal Wedding they could bend the rules because who hasn't been waiting on notorious bachelor Harry to get married...That could bring in a large amount of Tourism with her being American also...If the Queen likes her she will make the wedding happen ...She has changed the rules before...As the last son to the Heir and brother to an heir I can't imagine them not having a Royal Wedding and them not taking advantage of Prince George as a pageboy and Princess Charlotte as a potential flower girl to their Uncle...Just my opinion though...
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:10 AM
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If and when Harry does marry, I fully expect his wedding to a big one. Westminster Abbey and the processions and the balcony appearances. This, of course, depends on Harry going the traditional route with a royal wedding.

For all we know, he could opt out to get married in Africa but I don't see that happening if his beloved Granny and Grandpa is still around to enjoy his wedding. I will also bet my last chocolate covered cherry that William will be his best man/supporter by his side.

It is something to look forward to and that's the best part.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:17 AM
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I think the only reason the Queen's children had to get married in Civil Ceremonies is because they already had their televised weddings that British Taxpayers paid for...Royal weddings are not cheap at all...
Anne was remarried in a church service. Church of Scotland, not Church of England, but a church wedding all the same. Charles and Camilla were the ones to have a civil ceremony, but their situation was quite complicated by the fact that the public was quite aware of and unhappy with the fact that they'd had an affair during his first marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some concern that a more public wedding than what they had would be met with embarrassingly small crowds or even some protests.

The main factor determining whether a church wedding would be allowed for Harry or anyone in their family would be whether the relationship complies with the rules of the Church of England, and those have been evolving in the last couple of decades. There was a big vote in 2002, after Anne's second wedding but before Charles, at which an overwhelming majority of clergy agreed that remarriage should be allowed on a case-by-case basis, even if there is a surviving ex-spouse. Charles and Camilla quite likely would have been allowed a true church wedding had they sought one. And in the years since that couple remarried, the CoE has increasingly loosened restrictions on clergy, who are the group most strictly held to their standards about these things. There is now precedent for even bishops to be allowed to keep their position after a second marriage.

All this to say that, in the event (which we should not assume is a given) that Harry and Meghan decide to get married, it is quite possible that her previous divorce will not be a stumbling block to them having their ceremony in even the grandest of CoE sanctuaries.

Of course, if she is Catholic and doesn't want convert, that would be a different can of worms...
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:22 AM
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I'm not totally sold on Harry getting a big Westminster Abbey wedding. It's a different economic and security situation from when Andrew got married in the Abbey. William and Kate are the future King and Queen. Harry isn't. Even W&K's wedding was scaled back than earlier Abbey royal weddings.

Maybe we see something like Edward's at St George's Chapel. Prince George is the only unmarried royal who would be guaranteed a big Abbey wedding.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:25 AM
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What about Harry's own opinion? Maybe he would like a wedding in another church... It's not like only Westminster exist... anyway, I think that the imagination is again flying too high!
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:29 AM
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Yes, there is of course the very real possibility that there won't be an appetite from Harry or the family as a whole for his wedding (to whomever he eventually chooses, if he chooses to marry) to be a big, public affair. And there are certainly many smaller CoE churches where he could have a quite lovely church wedding, if he wants to do so. We really can't assume anything at this point.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:42 AM
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No one here is inside Harry's head to know what he really feels for Meghan. Who can be sure if it's just passion and lust? Who knows, he does not really love her ?? And I agree with whoever said that we do not know exactly how long they are together and how often they have already met. I would not be surprised if they announced the engagement soon.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:46 AM
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Of course, if she is Catholic and doesn't want convert, that would be a different can of worms...
As I understand it she doesn't have to convert. They changed things...Harry would not lose his place in succession now if he marries a Catholic.

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My prediction is that when Harry marries he will have a wedding more along the lines of Zara's than Williams. Smaller, more intimate and lower key.


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Old 12-09-2016, 10:19 AM
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Having big a royal wedding just for the sake of it is so 20th century.

Harry's wedding will be televised, it will be attended by royals from the continent, but it won't be in front of 1900 people in Westminster Abbey like William's. Harry and William have very different destinies.

Like Skippboo said, times are different from the decadent 80s. Andrew today would only rate a wedding at St George's Chapel Windsor.
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To be honest, I hope he has a big wedding, but only because the moaning, wailing, and gnashing of teeth on Twitter, etc if he doesn't get as big a wedding as William would be insufferable.
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