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Old 12-07-2016, 07:05 PM
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"According to sources Harry dashed from the apartment to the car" .... in a hoodie, no less. And yet no picture. How are we supposed to believe any such thing? It would not be the first time that the DM said something that wasn't true. Why accuse Harry of something simply because the DM said so? I think we should wait and see .......
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:16 PM
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They are waiting for the right time to make their debut as a couple. It's only been a couple of months since they strarted dating. Talking about marriage is way too early right now.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:44 PM
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"According to sources Harry dashed from the apartment to the car" .... in a hoodie, no less. And yet no picture. How are we supposed to believe any such thing? It would not be the first time that the DM said something that wasn't true. Why accuse Harry of something simply because the DM said so? I think we should wait and see .......



I believe. And the photographed car? And the body guards at the door of the building? Maybe they have pictures, but they are negotiating the moment to show, or he was so fast that there was no time to be photographed

And the story of him having changed his route and gone to Toronto seems to have already been confirmed
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:11 PM
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Frankly, I can believe that the photographers got no good shots... it's only about 2 or 3 feet from the garage door to the car.. that's a single step if someone's got long legs. And, too, all it would take was the security guy who was holding the pap out of the alley to step in front of the camera lens at the right time to totally block the shot. So there may be photos of the moment that no papers are willing to pay for because they don't actually show anything.

It's also possible they're holding out for a higher payday for those particular shots. Time will tell.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:48 PM
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Well Harry was a naughty boy and wasn't supposed to be there, also if he wanted to make it back on time he was on a short timeline. But it seems he was willing to risk it all. I think Harry tries to keep his dates out of the public as long as he can get away with.

I think at this point judging by his demeanor today Harry ain't sorry, he is confident and happy about his choices. I agree that Meghan is a non-negotiable for him.

I do think they need to get their picture taken together.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:51 PM
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They are waiting for the right time to make their debut as a couple. It's only been a couple of months since they strarted dating. Talking about marriage is way too early right now.
It's too early right now?? How much is enough time, 5 years?? Come on!! They are in their 30's and they both want kids. Harry is NOT going to wait like Wills and Kate did. The most he'll wait will be year and I doubt he'll wait that long honestly.


They have been dating for almost 7 months, not just a couple.

Ya know, a couple years ago or so I asked if you all 'thought Harry would ever date an American woman and many said no that you doubted he ever would. Well, today he is doing just that and to boot she is biracial.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:23 PM
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Different country different rules. As much as you make being a single mom only a step up from a criminal. Prince Louis had to give up his tight to succession to marry tessy, and her only sin was having a child out of wedlock. Unlike Mette, the father was Louis. Even their son in wedlock is not in line. They only have titles as grandpa Henri granted his grandsons and Tessy titles. In the Netherlands you have Mabel. Friday had to give up his place to marry her. His daughters are countesses and not in line because of it. Both Tessy and Mabel have proven to be extremely intelligent and charismatic contributions. So just because Norway allowed the horrifying thought single mom. And Sweden allowed a semi nude model, doesn't mean all countries would allow it.



But considering she has a mainstream acting career. A huge base in charity work. An education. And her only miss is a divorce which is clearly not an. Issue in the family any more, Megan really is not some embarrassment they will let slip through.

Louis had to give up his succession rights to marry Tessy not because she was an unwed mother but because she was a commoner - the marriage was morganatic. That's also why Noah doesn't have succession rights; when Louis gave up his, he did so for all his future children.

Friso marries without consent from Parliament, which is why he lost his succession rights automatically when he got married. This was done deliberately, as Mabel's past was seen as something that would hinder the consent from being granted, but still. If Harry were to dash off to Vegas with Meghan and get married he'd lose his succession rights as well for marrying without the permission of the monarch - until not too recently, the marriage wouldn't have been legal. The loss of succession rights is progress for the Brits.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:28 PM
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If they were in their 20's still I would agree that it may be premature. But they are in their 30's they want to have kids I understand. They perhaps don't want to wait 2-5 years to date in public to marry.



They have been courting but privately and discreetly. They have had dinner dates with Will and Kate and Beatrice and her finacee. So they have been out some.





What we think may be premature may not be what Harry thinks and that is what matters here.

How could they have had dinner dates with Beatrice's fiancé if Beatrice has been single since July and was never engaged?

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It's too early right now?? How much is enough time, 5 years?? Come on!! They are in their 30's and they both want kids. Harry is NOT going to wait like Wills and Kate did. The most he'll wait will be year and I doubt he'll wait that long honestly.


They have been dating for almost 7 months, not just a couple.

Ya know, a couple years ago or so I asked if you all 'thought Harry would ever date an American woman and many said no that you do doubted he ever would. Well, today he is doing just that and to boot she is biracial.

Given as Meghan is likely going to have to uproot her life, move to London, and give up her career in order to marry Harry I think it's safe to say the two of them aren't going to just jump into marriage. Sure they've been together 7 months. Sure they're not in their 20s. But a marriage is a huge undertaking and even more so when it comes with the expectations that a royal marriage entails. It would be stupid of them to rush to the alter.

Also, once again, Meghan is under contract for another season of Suits. She legally can't quit acting until after then. And royal engagements tend to be fairly short. So don't go holding your breath until Harry walks down the aisle.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:50 PM
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I read somewhere that they have been out with Harry and Meghan, at least Beatrice and her financee.

Some royal experts say that they see no reason why she can't continue as actress . Times are changing people and so do rules.

I'd bet odd they'll engaged while she is filming season 7! And afterwards she may continue. We'll see.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:53 PM
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I read somewhere that they have been out with Harry and Meghan, at least Beatrice and her financee.

Some royal experts say that they see no reason why she can't continue as actress . Times are changing people and so do rules.

I bet odd they'll engaged while she is filming season 7! And afterwards she may continue. We'll see.

Beatrice is not engaged. Beatrice is single. Beatrice has never been engaged.

Any paper you're reading that is claiming Harry and Meghan are dining with Beatrice and her fiancé is flat out lying, because Beatrice does not have a fiancé and has never had a fiancé.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:54 PM
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Also, if these royal experts are the same ones claiming that Harry is dining with Beatrice and her fiancé, then they aren't royal experts.
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:17 PM
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Remember that Harry needs the Queen's permission to marry if he and his children are to remain in the line of succession.

Until she has been introduced to The Queen there won't be a wedding and the Queen is known to be wary of short courtships after the marriages of her sister and three of her children that followed short courtships of less than a couple of years.

Of course Harry could marry without consent but he would lose his place and his children also wouldn't be in the line. In that scenario it is highly likely that he wouldn't get a title or his children become HRH's - certainly not with new LPs to create them as such before Charles becomes King.
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:53 PM
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The Queen may very well be wary, may even counsel Harry privately to wait a while, but I very much doubt that she would forbid a marriage between two thirty somethings who are deeply in love and if there was nothing to object to in the bride's background. After Harry and Meghan have been going out for a year I think there may well be an engagement, and I can foresee a wedding six months after that. This couple would want a family. They aren't going to have around for five years or so.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:03 PM
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Louis had to give up his succession rights to marry Tessy not because she was an unwed mother but because she was a commoner - the marriage was morganatic. That's also why Noah doesn't have succession rights; when Louis gave up his, he did so for all his future children.

Friso marries without consent from Parliament, which is why he lost his succession rights automatically when he got married. This was done deliberately, as Mabel's past was seen as something that would hinder the consent from being granted, but still. If Harry were to dash off to Vegas with Meghan and get married he'd lose his succession rights as well for marrying without the permission of the monarch - until not too recently, the marriage wouldn't have been legal. The loss of succession rights is progress for the Brits.
My point obviously missed, was just because on country finds something like soft porn acceptable doesn't mean others would. There have been cases of marriages refused.

i am sorry but if you think Tessy didn't get a title simply because she was morgantic, look at the family. Louis's own mother, the grand duchess, is a commoner. Yet Louis and his siblings are heirs. Felix married a commoner, but Amalia and Liam are in line. Sibilla is a commoner, but her husband and their kids are in line. In no way was it simply because Tessy was a commoner.

And the Dutch are like the swedes, the monarch decides if they ask permission from parliament. Carl and Sofia had to get parliament okay. Frisco didn't apply, he knew because of Mabel's past, they wouldn't get it.

The point is, contrary to what the other poster said, Sofia and Mette aren't proof all monarchies have lost all standards, and as long as you are not a criminal, you will be approved.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:04 PM
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You took the words right out of my mouth! And I must add, both the Prince of Wales and his now spouse - the Duchess of Cornwall - engaged in an adulterous relationship with each other!
The British royals live in a glass house...they can't throw stones at Prince Harry's relationship with Meghan.
Right!

I mean I still remember tampon gate, Squidgygate, Toesuckinggate I'm like Harry and Meghan are just two crazy kids who want to date. Why are people blowing this out of proportion! They are boring compared to the 80's and 90's.
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Maybe one of the reasons these two are still trying to keep things under cover a bit has to do with safety concerns for Meghan. If pictures of them together is going to stir the hornets nest back up they may not want them to come out until Meghan's back on set filming suits. That way her security will be provided for by the series and her cast mates and crew can act as a bit of a buffer.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:18 PM
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The previous poster intended to say Eugenie and her Boyfriend which is an accurate story... Not Beatrice.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:30 PM
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This is an interesting article: http://www.thedailybeast....to-see-meghan-markle

It does rake Harry over the coals but it brings up an interesting point that Harry was willing to break the rules in order to visit Meghan in Toronto, it was not just a "booty call", it must have been about something important, maybe an agreement to move their relationship to the next level. Judging by both their smiles, it went well.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:54 PM
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"The statement was, predictably, completely ineffective as to its stated aims"

With this I completely disagree. Harry called out the racist undertones, the sexism, and harassing Meghan's mother in his statement. I believe that has toned down.
I don't think Harry or Meghan thought, that his statement would stop the paparazzi, or interest in Meghan. But the tone of the articles written about her has changed.
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:06 AM
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The previous poster intended to say Eugenie and her Boyfriend which is an accurate story... Not Beatrice.

OH okay!! Yes!! Thank you. Wrong York Sister.
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