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Old 12-07-2016, 03:07 PM
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Prince Harry is so RIGHT ON!!

Why Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle – Royal Central

I like this portion of the article:


[I"]So this is going to be my first point, nowhere in that statement does it say it is forbidden, only “actively discouraged”. Prince Harry did pay for his own trip to go to Toronto so people can’t be angry with him for that, it has been argued that the taxpayers then had to pay for his police protection officer (PPO) to head to Toronto. Yet, had Prince Harry gone back to London and then Toronto, the taxpayers would still have to pay for that PPO and flights work out to almost exactly the same cost.

Costs aside, many of the media are upset that Kensington Palace told them that Prince Harry would be heading right back to London from Guyana. Did they have the right to know? The tour was now over and Prince Harry was off duty, he has explicitly said in the past that his private life was his and wants to enjoy his relationship with Miss Markle without the world judging his every move."[/I]


What's in Bold: Right on Prince Harry!!
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:22 PM
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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.

As I've stated many times before, with the apotheosis of one Sofia Hellqvist as HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden and Mette Marit Hoiby as HRH and future queen of Norway the floodgates have been opened.

The idea that any woman(or man) for that matter can now be ruled "unsuitable" for any reason short of a criminal rap sheet is out the window.

Spilled milk can't be put back into a bottle.
Different country different rules. As much as you make being a single mom only a step up from a criminal. Prince Louis had to give up his tight to succession to marry tessy, and her only sin was having a child out of wedlock. Unlike Mette, the father was Louis. Even their son in wedlock is not in line. They only have titles as grandpa Henri granted his grandsons and Tessy titles. In the Netherlands you have Mabel. Friday had to give up his place to marry her. His daughters are countesses and not in line because of it. Both Tessy and Mabel have proven to be extremely intelligent and charismatic contributions. So just because Norway allowed the horrifying thought single mom. And Sweden allowed a semi nude model, doesn't mean all countries would allow it.

But considering she has a mainstream acting career. A huge base in charity work. An education. And her only miss is a divorce which is clearly not an. Issue in the family any more, Megan really is not some embarrassment they will let slip through.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:44 PM
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I am very interested to see how this relationship progresses and how Meghan handles her social media presence/website. I am assuming her blog brings in income so she can't just quit all online activity. A royal girlfriend with her own brand is uncharted territory for the BRF so I am curious to see how she reconciles the two roles.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:14 PM
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He's [Harry] not a minor royal who gets pulled out couple times a year for an event. He's never going to be one...until maybe George becomes King. Even then as uncle to the King..no small thing.
Try telling that to Prince Andrew, in much the same position, who has been effectively sidelined...

Re Meghan, she looks like a lovely pleasant woman but I think the talk of marriage is premature; I hope she and Harry have time to 'court'.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:15 PM
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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.

As I've stated many times before, with the apotheosis of one Sofia Hellqvist as HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden and Mette Marit Hoiby as HRH and future queen of Norway the floodgates have been opened.

The idea that any woman(or man) for that matter can now be ruled "unsuitable" for any reason short of a criminal rap sheet is out the window.

Spilled milk can't be put back into a bottle.

Charles didn't get married in a church


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Old 12-07-2016, 05:17 PM
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Different country different rules. As much as you make being a single mom only a step up from a criminal. Prince Louis had to give up his tight to succession to marry tessy, and her only sin was having a child out of wedlock. Unlike Mette, the father was Louis. Even their son in wedlock is not in line. They only have titles as grandpa Henri granted his grandsons and Tessy titles. In the Netherlands you have Mabel. Friday had to give up his place to marry her. His daughters are countesses and not in line because of it. Both Tessy and Mabel have proven to be extremely intelligent and charismatic contributions. So just because Norway allowed the horrifying thought single mom. And Sweden allowed a semi nude model, doesn't mean all countries would allow it.

But considering she has a mainstream acting career. A huge base in charity work. An education. And her only miss is a divorce which is clearly not an. Issue in the family any more, Megan really is not some embarrassment they will let slip through.
Being a single mom or a soft porn model is certainly not "one step up from being a criminal" for us plebes, but are you trying to tell me with a straight face that in Royal circles that this was all hunky dory, and that the sound of harps and the angelic choruses greeted Mette Marit, Sofia and Tessy instead of controversy that continues to this day in some quarters?

If women like this have always been considered acceptable in Royal circles, why was Koo Stark driven off in 1982? Wallis Simpson in the 1930's Isabel Sartorius of Spain in the 90's?

My point was only that these women(Sofia and MM especially) would not have gotten their respective feet in the door unless their respective families and monarchies relaxed their standards considerably,(even in ultra liberal Scandinavia) not what kind of additions/contributions to their families they are making today-which while we are being blunt-is a rather subjective opinion anyway.

And-standards having been considerably...relaxed...if you will all over Royal Europe, there is no point in believing that there should be any difficulty in accepting Meghan Markle, B-list starlet as HRH the Duchess of Sussex.

It's all so much hypocrisy at this point. My point remains that almost anyone is acceptable as a Royal bride or groom now.

As long as they are IN LOVE of course.

ETA: About Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, whom I admire a lot. She caused herself a tough time because she and the late Friso lied up front about her having been a drug dealer's squeeze. A lot of Dutch people had a problem with that and I kind of see their point.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:25 PM
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Try telling that to Prince Andrew, in much the same position, who has been effectively sidelined...
Andrew and Charles have a totally different relationship with each other than Harry and William do...and Harry appears to be much closer to G&C than Andrew has been to W&H.




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Old 12-07-2016, 05:32 PM
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Moonmaiden23 - Not that many generations ago, Stephanie wouldn't have gotten anywhere near Prince Guillaume. As it is, G's mother is a commoner. You should be happy times have changed.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:37 PM
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Why would it concern me one way or another if the Countess de Lannoy had been permitted to marry Guillaume or not? I am not this couples' press agent as you seem to frequently assume.

Even so, I seriously doubt it would have been as difficult for Stephanie to marry Guillaume in 1981 as it would have been for a Kate Middleton of Bucklebury Party Pieces to marry the 2nd in line for the Throne of England that same year.

Just saying.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:38 PM
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They know it's Harry. Perhaps the paps just don't want to publish or didn't have enough time to take pics.
Maybe.... just maybe they all have decided to leave Harry alone to pursue his love life in private. Waitaminute.... I think the eggnog has gone to my brain.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:38 PM
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Try telling that to Prince Andrew, in much the same position, who has been effectively sidelined...

Re Meghan, she looks like a lovely pleasant woman but I think the talk of marriage is premature; I hope she and Harry have time to 'court'.
If they were in their 20's still I would agree that it may be premature. But they are in their 30's they want to have kids I understand. They perhaps don't want to wait 2-5 years to date in public to marry.

They have been courting but privately and discreetly. They have had dinner dates with Will and Kate and Beatrice and her finacee. So they have been out some.


What we think may be premature may not be what Harry thinks and that is what matters here.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:03 PM
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What if he's already proposed!!

I think his grandmother has already given her permission and Harry has proposed to Meghan and she has expected.

I think it's happened already but they are keeping it quite til after the New Year.


I am calling this now!!
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:09 PM
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No way that is happening A.O.


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Old 12-07-2016, 06:15 PM
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That photographer must have been very awkwardly positioned, as I agree with others that all you can see is pavement and car in that world-shattering photo the DM seems so proud of! Usually these photographers are like greased lightning, whether their prey is all bundled up or no!

I'm a great fan of Harry but I have to say that all this hiding away and hole in corner stuff is very celebrity-ish. I'm not blaming Meghan for this, but Harry. It was fair enough, I suppose, to behave like this when this romance was unknown and they were in the very early stages of the relationship. But goodness, they are both single, both in their thirties, in love. The time for dashing outside, head bowed here and 'holed up' there has passed. Since the KP statement the world knows these two are in a relationship. Why not just go out and about together? I'm not saying behave as he and Chelsy did once or twice with PDA's, but just stroll about together to a bar or restaurant or just a walk.

Toronto is, by all accounts, a very casual city, not at all celebrity obsessed. Even in London the two of them out and about would hardly cause a riot! Yes, you would be giving paps and press what they want, and no doubt the first couple of times would mean a large profit for the newspaper or magazine involved. But then everything would settle down to normality. I have to say this bobbing about trying not to be recognised just adds drama and excitement among the media, something Harry is presumably trying to avoid.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:18 PM
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I don't think it's too early if they are both sure about their future and their feelings. I have alot of friends who married within a year of meeting each other. It was six months of dating, then a six month engagement. I do think Meghan should spend more time in England, perhaps they could live together when she is not filming.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:26 PM
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I think his grandmother has already given her permission and Harry has proposed to Meghan and she has expected.



I think it's happened already but they are keeping it quite til after the New Year.





I am calling this now!!

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Old 12-07-2016, 06:36 PM
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Maybe.... just maybe Harry and Meghan have already traveled incognito to Vegas and were secretly married by an Elvis impersonator and up next will be the announcement that the couple are expecting a little Elvis.

I gotta lay off the eggnog it seems.
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That photographer must have been very awkwardly positioned, as I agree with others that all you can see is pavement and car in that world-shattering photo the DM seems so proud of! Usually these photographers are like greased lightning, whether their prey is all bundled up or no!

I'm a great fan of Harry but I have to say that all this hiding away and hole in corner stuff is very celebrity-ish. I'm not blaming Meghan for this, but Harry. It was fair enough, I suppose, to behave like this when this romance was unknown and they were in the very early stages of the relationship. But goodness, they are both single, both in their thirties, in love. The time for dashing outside, head bowed here and 'holed up' there has passed. Since the KP statement the world knows these two are in a relationship. Why not just go out and about together? I'm not saying behave as he and Chelsy did once or twice with PDA's, but just stroll about together to a bar or restaurant or just a walk.

Toronto is, by all accounts, a very casual city, not at all celebrity obsessed. Even in London the two of them out and about would hardly cause a riot! Yes, you would be giving paps and press what they want, and no doubt the first couple of times would mean a large profit for the newspaper or magazine involved. But then everything would settle down to normality. I have to say this bobbing about trying not to be recognised just adds drama and excitement among the media, something Harry is presumably trying to avoid.

I agree, I don't understand all the hiding etc. he told us she is his girlfriend so why hide. The sooner she starts getting a taste of what life would be married into the BRF the better.


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Old 12-07-2016, 06:52 PM
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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.
You took the words right out of my mouth! And I must add, both the Prince of Wales and his now spouse - the Duchess of Cornwall - engaged in an adulterous relationship with each other!
The British royals live in a glass house...they can't throw stones at Prince Harry's relationship with Meghan.
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