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Old 11-09-2016, 08:31 PM
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Action replay.

When Diana died, the immediate response of the UK public was to turn against the media. That tends to be forgotten.

In order to turn the tide, the UK press attacked the Queen - where
Are you, give us the boys, lower the flag...... and thats what is remembered. The people were conned.

We now have Harry defending his girlfriend and attacking media/paparazzi. He has been supported by the public. What happens? the press are attempting to turnthe tide - its Meghane and/or Harrys fault; its his Press people (who they dont like) and Charles who wasnt there to advise.

Give me strength. Its the media - mainly the press. Dont get conned again.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:33 PM
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This stupid Boy! Why can't he just marry a nice girl like Princess Theodora?
"Tell me what kind of Girl you date and I tell you what kind of guy you are....."
And why does he have to marry a person he does not love, a marriage arranged with a noble and be unhappy? There are people who are still at the beginning of the last century.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:41 PM
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I don't think Harry made a mistake in writing the letter. He must have been deeply outraged at his girlfriend's offenses. I was shocked by some comments. It's very difficult to read offensive comments to a person we like, he just wanted to protect her. And the press is cruel.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:44 PM
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The only precedent I can remember for a letter such as Harry published is the one that Edward sent out when he was dating Sophie. That was an attempt to protect her and their growing relationship. Does anyone remember whether Edward received backlash for that?
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:47 PM
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^A huge difference is Sophie was a regular girl NOT a TV actress benefiting from the exposure.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:57 PM
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To a degree, yes. However, Sophie's work did flourish after she was known to be dating Prince Edward. She started her own company, RJH, three years after their relationship began. I must admit, I'm somewhat uncomfortable with Prince Harry dating an actress. However, if they do form a strong relationship and genuinely love and care for each other, that's more important in the long run.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:03 PM
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^A huge difference is Sophie was a regular girl NOT a TV actress benefiting from the exposure.
Miss Markle isn't benefiting from this exposure. I think it's going to be a mistake for people to come down on this young lady for already having a career and media profile before Harry. This young lady had delivered a speech before the UN for crying out loud. She's been on talk shows and already have some media interests.

It's easy for people to slip into the thought of a star using her royal connections to help her career. The girl is on a tv series. She's got her stuff together. She don't need Harry to raise her profile.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:10 PM
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At this moment, how exactly has Meghan benefited from the exposure? I highly doubt her dating Harry will bring more viewers for Suits. Sure, her name is out there in the tabloid press, I'm just not sure it'll boast the sales of her clothing line. She won't get any new job offers because of her dating life. As far as I see, she's received harassment, people have tried to break into her home, her loved ones have been harassed by the press, and every person shes been in known contact has been offered money for a story. How is she benefiting from this exposure?
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:13 PM
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And why does he have to marry a person he does not love, a marriage arranged with a noble and be unhappy? There are people who are still at the beginning of the last century.

It's really has nothing to do with the time we live in as compared to 100 years ago etc. He's bound by the Traditions and rules of the BRF.

At any time he can step aside and give up his place in line for the throne (he's not going to inherit it anyway and not likely he wants it based on other things he's said in the past)...he's got plenty of money of his own from his mother and no way would his father or brother see him go without.

So as long as he remains in the 'firm' and plans to be a working member of it then he's gotta follow the rules. While it's not likely the Queen would deny him permission to marry someone...technically he still has to have permission to marry.


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Old 11-09-2016, 09:15 PM
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I'm going to disagree. She plays a supporting part on a cable tv show which is getting under 2 million viewers in a country of 330 million. Once the Harry news broke, she front page on website, newspapers, magazines. Most people here probably never heard of her before being linked to Harry. She has gotten tons of name recognition that she wouldn't have got without the Harry connection.

Suits isn't on right now it apparently comes back on in early 2017

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Old 11-09-2016, 09:16 PM
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Oh, yeah she does, no one knew who she was before this. She's promoting a clothing line. Has an open instagram with banana spooning (nice touch). I digress.

I don't care if she's delivering speeches for the pope, nowadays everyone is doing these self serving look at me doing charity, I'm not always impressed.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:22 PM
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She certainly is not benefiting from exposure. What I saw was she being execrated in the social media. I read terrible comments in the Daily Mail: Harry will regret the day he has a black son. Black children in the palace? Could her mother work as a cleaner in the palace, a descendant of slaves with a prince? That was the least I read, not to mention the comments about her being divorced, as if it were the worst thing in the world
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:32 PM
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Folks, Meghan Markle is successful in her own right. Don't take that away from her. Yes, more people are finding out about who she is since the news broke of her relationship with Harry, but let's not make it seem like her career has been made by this.

Everybody used to go on and on about how it's good for a young lady to have a career and establish herself before marriage. Folks used to rip Catherine in half for not be out going enough and for not having a solid career while dating William. Now Harry is dating a career woman. You would think people would be satisfied. Being an actress is a good job too!
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:37 PM
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I still don't see how she's benefiting from this. Will people buy more stuff from her clothing line because she's dating Harry? Her IG pictures getting views won't benefit her. Neither does having her name splattered on tabloids. She's having to live through people trying to break into her home, worrying if someone will sell a tell all story about her, who she can trust in her life. Anyone thinking she's enjoying all that, I've got news for you.

Tbh, Harry is lucky if this relationship works out. Meghan is the one who'll have to uproot her life, and the benefits of life with a royal, in my mind, wouldn't be worth the negatives.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:43 PM
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How is she benefiting from this public exposure other than probably the increase in her number of followers...has she received any new acting gigs or modeling contracts since it was confirmed that she is dating Harry? is she receiving compensation for promoting goods and services on twitter and instagram [i.e. similar to the Kardashians]. She already had a blog and clothing line prior to dating Harry, so what has she gained exactly from this exposure other than more people knowing who she is?

Suits is a popular show on the USA network, it is certainly not along the likes of CSI, Scandal or Law and Order but for a lot of people who watch the USA network [and I was one of them for Silk Stalkings, Royal Pains, Fairly Legal, etc.]....I have known about her since the show started. Although to be honest I have never looked at her instagram and/or twitter account until the rumors of the Harry pairing pop up. Meghan, like many her age and in her industry documents her life on social media. Thats' what they do...I don't think that should be held against against. And for those who are criticize her for saying that she was the luckiest girl in the world..she also said that in April/May and was referencing a trip she took with some girlfriends to Italy.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:53 PM
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What's amazing to me is that no matter what choices a woman makes, someone will hate her for them.

Meghan Markle is getting a ton of criticism for making her own career and success- for working hard as both an actress and a humanitarian, for having a public personality and opinions.

Catherine has gotten a ton of criticism for being a Stepford Wife- too quiet, a mannequin with no opinions, boring and not charismatic.

There is no way for a woman to date a member of the British Royal Family without a portion of the population absolutely hating her for it and I for one will not be buying into that nonsense.




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Old 11-09-2016, 10:09 PM
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What's amazing to me is that no matter what choices a woman makes, someone will hate her for them.

Meghan Markle is getting a ton of criticism for making her own career and success- for working hard as both an actress and a humanitarian, for having a public personality and opinions.

Catherine has gotten a ton of criticism for being a Stepford Wife- too quiet, a mannequin with no opinions, boring and not charismatic.

There is no way for a woman to date a member of the British Royal Family without a portion of the population absolutely hating her for it and I for one will not be buying into that nonsense.




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Right, I just don't think people should be tearing Miss Markle down over her career. She's successful in her own right and already have a media profile. She didn't just make it up since dating Harry.

I hope people will show her some respect and not hound her in person and on her personal social media.

Leave the girl alone and don't make things hard for this relationship.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:30 PM
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Meghan will absolutely benefit from dating Harry. Meghan is what I call a hustler, she is a supporting actress on a basic cable show and yet she has a clothing line and is a UN appointee, actresses who are much better known cannot claim those accomplishments. If Meghan and Harry get married, Meghan will benefit by becoming a member of the British Royal Family and all that entails - tiaras, castles, swanky title, etc. Yeah, it's not all rosy, but becoming a member of the British royal family comes with perks and a platform that will allow her to continue her humanitarian work and advocacy. As far as what will happen if she and Harry do not go the distance, take a look at post-Harry Cressida Bonas, Cressida has scored fashion campaigns, magazine covers, and sits on the front row at major fashion shows, I have no doubt that those same things will come Meghan's way, I suspect that when you toss in Meghan savvy and moxie, with or without Harry, we will be seeing much more of her.

Again I think Meghan is a hustler, and regardless of the outcome, I think she is going to parlay her relationship with Prince Harry into bigger and better things, I think that's just how she's wired, but just to be clear, I am giving her the benefit of the doubt that when it comes to her attraction to and feelings about Harry. One, Harry is far from being a charmless ogre, and also, if you look at previous men she's been in relationships with, Harry seems to be her type, so I have no reason to believe that Meghan's interest in Harry is solely opportunistic, but, regardless of the outcome of the relationship and independent of the genuineness of her feelings for Harry, opportunities will come from it and she will take advantage of them.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:33 PM
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I'm going to disagree. She plays a supporting part on a cable tv show which is getting under 2 million viewers in a country of 330 million. Once the Harry news broke, she front page on website, newspapers, magazines. Most people here probably never heard of her before being linked to Harry. She has gotten tons of name recognition that she wouldn't have got without the Harry connection.

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I agree. That's exactly how's she benefitting. Tons of free press and high profile. I'd never heard of her before this all went on.


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Old 11-09-2016, 11:58 PM
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Yes but if the tons of press doesn't lead to anything not really a benefit. We're not talking Cressida. Cress was fresh out of school and other than Harry was only known for her family and being mistaken for a different model. Meghan already has an established career. She already had 2 major humanitarian positions. She is on her second release of her clothing line. At least in cAnada she is easily recognizable from her commercials. Unless she suddenly lands a major movie roll or something, she is not benefiting here.

And the press isn't going to help. Reitmans is not a designer anything. It is a retail store, not low end but affordable. women shop there as it's affordable and it fits everyone from petite so to plus size. The kind of people who drop money on clothes because of a celebrity are not likely to shop there. It's along the lines of like Martha Stewart or Miley Cyrus having a line at target or Kmart yes a celebrity meme, but no one racing out to buy.
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