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Old 11-08-2016, 02:06 PM
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Already newspapers are trying to spin.

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Like any man Harry is worried about his girlfriend Meghan Markle's safety and is deeply disappointed that he has not been able to protect her. All very commendable.

But unless he is prepared to pay for a protection officer in his absence - there is not a lot he can do about the legitimate press interest in Miss Markle.

She is a well known actress, used to milking publicity for her own gains, who writes copiously on social media about her lifestyle and background.
Read more: Prince Harry's statement on Meghan Markle abuse 'will turn Caribbean tour into a circus' | London Evening Standard
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:08 PM
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Meghan sounds lovely compared to the other two he used to date. I really thought we were over the English prince dating and American and who knows they might not even marry
Well, I guess we Americans are still considered uncouth barbarians as far as our cousins across the pond are concerned! Harry needs to summons the shade of his great uncle the Duke of Windsor for pointers on how to cope when the girl you love is American.

In all seriousness, I see her previous(very brief) marriage as being more of an impediment than the fact that she is an American. (Her ethnicity is a complete non issue as far as I am concerned... period.)

The fact that she is also a baptized Roman Catholic might not pose a problem if she agrees to raise any children in the CoE.

IF it even gets that far.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:17 PM
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And I don't see him marrying someone he's known less than a year.

They did this with cressie.

But what I do know is that Chelsey will always be his camilia
Oh God! Forget Chelsy. She is past. And Harry's story with her was very different from his father's story and Camilla.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:34 PM
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I don't see the Harry/Chelsy/Camilla/Charles parallels either.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:52 PM
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I don't see the Harry/Chelsy/Camilla/Charles parallels either.
I don't either. I see a better comparison with Harry/Cressida/Camilla/Charles.

Both Cressida and Camilla are English with middle-class fathers and blue-blooded mothers. They each dated a Prince, then went back to their handsome polo-playing ex that they were still in-love with, aka Andrew Parker-Bowles and Harry Wentworth-Stanley. They both stayed good friends with the Prince after the break-up. And they're both longtime pals with royal cousins, Cressida-Eugenie, and Camilla-Alexandra.

Not that I think Harry and Cressida will ever get back together. I just see more superficial similarities.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:55 PM
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I think one factor that's maybe not obvious in the question of press intrusion on Meghan in particular is that she's been living in Toronto and got famous while doing so.

I see a lot of "well, she's a celebrity, what does she expect, she has to be used to it, etc"

It's maybe not obvious to anyone who's not familiar with the Toronto scene, but it's.. incredibly low key about celebrities. I've been in bars/restaurants when people walk in who're recognized by every single person in the place. The reaction is, pretty much always, that everyone else tries to out-chill each other in pretending not to recognize the star in question. And it's not just TV -- a friend of mine had the same experience when Mike Myers walked in at the height of Austen Powers box office.

The media is also, from what I can tell, pretty respectful and chill too. (In fact, I've been watching the Toronto Star coverage and it's been a fraction of the UK/US.)

Meghan actually described exactly what it's like for her to live there, more than a year ago: Meghan Markle on her 'normal life' in Toronto before Prince Harry relationship

So that's "what she's used to". I'm certain that this level of attention is a whole new ball game.
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:00 PM
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Harry and Meghan may or may not be The Real Thing. They might be enjoying a passionate romance that eventually ends, or they may be enjoying a passionate romance that leads to marriage.

This guy lost his mother when he was twelve years old. He was a child. The sight of his downcast face as his father held his hand while greeting mourners at the Palace gates stays with me still...as does the image of the MUMMY card he placed of the coffin.

I have suspected for years the wound inflicted on both of the Wales boys by that trauma ran deeper than any of us can ever know. It's why even though I was not overjoyed with William's choice of spouse I was able to understand that he needed so much more than just a wife. He needed the healing that the security of a happy family life could provide and I am satisfied that he seems to have found it. My feelings about Kate Middleton and her family don't matter.

I want the same for Harry. I want him to find the woman that can give him a shot at joy and stability, something that he and his brother were deprived of in childhood.

So, if this is it let it happen for him...why not?
I agree that the loss of their mother at such a critical time of their development runs deeper than we could know.

I believe a large part of Catherine's appeal to William was/is her family. The Middletons seem to be very close-knit, with a huge emphasis on family. I believe William really gravitated toward not just his future wife, but joining in the family. I also think this will have a very positive impact in the upbringing. Of George and Charlotte.
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:05 PM
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:07 PM
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IF Meghan is smart and is serious about Harry she will go completely silent as far as this relationship is concerned. I know she is an actress and must court publicity yada yada. But that is only where her career is concerned.

She needs to become a closed book as far as her personal life from here on in. Because if she keeps it up with cutesy-shmoopsie photos and "I'm the luckiest girl alive" (wink wink) remarks on social media she is going to make Harry look like both a fool and a hypocrite.

She can't control the media storm but she can control the part she plays in it, imo.

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I agree that the loss of their mother at such a critical time of their development runs deeper than we could know.

I believe a large part of Catherine's appeal to William was/is her family. The Middletons seem to be very close-knit, with a huge emphasis on family. I believe William really gravitated toward not just his future wife, but joining in the family. I also think this will have a very positive impact in the upbringing. Of George and Charlotte.
I agree 100% about your first three observations.

I hope so and time will about your final one.
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:29 PM
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IF Meghan is smart and is serious about Harry she will go completely silent as far as this relationship is concerned. I know she is an actress and must court publicity yada yada. But that is only where her career is concerned.

She needs to become a closed book as far as her personal life from here on in. Because if she keeps it up with cutesy-shmoopsie photos and "I'm the luckiest girl alive" (wink wink) remarks on social media she is going to make Harry look like both a fool and a hypocrite.

She can't control the media storm but she can control the part she plays in it, imo.
I think she largely has, actually.
  • The banana thing was a repost of a picture she found (not something she made).. i suspect she just thought it was cute, because it is.
  • The puzzles and tea pic is possibly the most innocuous instagram post I can imagine.
  • The "luckiest girl in the world" was when she was interviewed about her fashion line and I would lay actual money that the interview took place before the news broke.
    If you read the original interview (Q&A: Meghan Markle talks new fashion collection for Reitmans | Vancouver Sun) the reporter clearly has absolutely no idea that the person they're interviewing is about to hit the headlines for dating a prince.
  • The first time she went out publically after the news broke, she hired security to ensure that some distance from the press; she didn't give a sidewalk interview
  • Her mother delivered a clear no comment when ambushed.
  • Her father has made himself completely unavailable to ambush by leaving for Mexico.

As for her social media presence, it's pretty clearly curated to give a very specific view into her private life. Which means it's not really her private life, it's the portion of her private life she's willing to show.

So we're left with the fact that her half siblings won't keep their mouths shut, and since she doesn't have much contact with them, there's not a lot she can do about it, any more than Kate could do about the various distant relatives who tried to advance their own interests on her coat tails (I'm looking at you, Katrina).
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:46 PM
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I was not aware that Meghan's father had decamped to Mexico. Can't say I blame him one bit.
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:50 PM
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:53 PM
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The way the media is going on about them it sounds like they've walked down the isle and she's had a baby all in 6 months
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:56 PM
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I feel the reason this is getting so much heat as it is, is that Harry (and Meghan) are in their 30's and people are eager for the whole hoopla of a marriage + kids.
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Old 11-08-2016, 04:01 PM
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Well, I guess we Americans are still considered uncouth barbarians as far as our cousins across the pond are concerned! Harry needs to summons the shade of his great uncle the Duke of Windsor for pointers on how to cope when the girl you love is American.

In all seriousness, I see her previous(very brief) marriage as being more of an impediment than the fact that she is an American. (Her ethnicity is a complete non issue as far as I am concerned... period.)

The fact that she is also a baptized Roman Catholic might not pose a problem if she agrees to raise any children in the CoE.

IF it even gets that far.
Barely civilized we are evidently....

I don't see the divorce being an issue at all considering most of his immediate family have been divorced.

It doesn't sound like she's really a practicing Catholic so that probably wouldn't be an issue either.


It will be interesting to see how it goes....she is going to have to be willing to give up almost everything if she marries him. Plus take on a life of public service and media (and public) scrutiny. Time will tell how serious it is.


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Old 11-08-2016, 04:14 PM
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Today's announcement has me rooting hard for Harry and Meghan because if he didn't care about her well being very much, that statement wouldn't have happened. He also wouldn't have officially confirmed her as his girlfriend (and subjected her to all that goes along with that) if it weren't serious.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this relationship progress on an accelerated time line. And good for them- I hope for their happiness


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Old 11-08-2016, 04:44 PM
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pointers on how to cope when the girl you love is American.
Throw Jewels at her, if Wallis is anything to go by....
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Old 11-08-2016, 04:46 PM
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***I am officially team "Marry"!
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I have to say I delightfully surprised by the KP release. It is very detailed and addressed everything such as the fact that

1. Harry is very much aware that he leads a very privileged life.
2. He is NOT ignorant of the racist comments made towards Miss Markle.
3. He is aware of the hounding, bribing, and sinister plots against Miss Markle and her friends and family.
4. He is deeply concerned for her safety.

I loooved the fact that he stuck it to them with the "it is her life and mine" comment!

It is a "knight in shining armor" move. Very commendable of Harry to take the initiative to release the announcement.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:02 PM
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Throw Jewels at her, if Wallis is anything to go by....

Plenty of nobles from England were more than happy to take American money back in the day. I wouldn't get too high in the instep.


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Old 11-08-2016, 05:07 PM
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Everything rests with the couples personal relationship, but one big way for us and the media to give them a good start, for everyone to respect the couples privacy and give them space to thrive.
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