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Old 11-08-2016, 09:00 AM
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Yes indeed:

I am glad this statement has been issued and that the matter will no longer be subject to rumour and speculation. I only hope that Harry and Meghan can continue to develop their relationship as they wish.
I hope too, but I'm afraid this statement will worsen the situation: now that press has the certainty of their relationship, Meghan and Harry won't have an easy life.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:07 AM
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Interesting article from Sky News

http://news.sky.com/story/why-prince...snt-sf-twitter

She brings up the point about Harry being concerned about level of attention focused on this relationship compared to previous ones. With Chelsy, you still had William and Kate dating/engaged to take the attention away. Cressida had royal baby fever to take the attention away. Now William and Kate are boring with their 2 kids and happy marriage.

Then comes an American actress with open social media accounts, a screen history, a ex husband, a family that talked to the media. It's a press jackpot for the media. It's a big juicy steak in front a hungry pack of wolves. Would there be this much interest in 2 weeks of coverage if Harry was dating a Sophie Wessex type who was middle class, no online profile and family didn't respond to media?


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Old 11-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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Thank you for a very comprehensive answer, Ish.

Okay, let's look at the positive sides.

Looks: No problem there!

Presentation: She's an actor she can at least act the role.
She's used to cameras, press, giving interviews and know what the press want. Presumably she likes the attention as well, or she wouldn't be an actor.

She has engaged herself in some (not particularly political) causes. Which is a positive thing. Then at least she is standing for something and is willing to dedicate herself to an issue.

How about kids? Is she willing/ready to give birth to 2.1 children to act as back-up royals?

Any other positive things about her you can think of?
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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i still think this statement is most odd coming from a royal court. kind of unprecedented, so i can't help but think what was behind it. i doubt 'serious safety concerns' were the cause. meghan is from the US and lives in canada - hardly countries where the police would not react to trespassing in a flick of a second.

and meghan is an actress - until yesterday a B-rated one but nevertheless a public person. she shares her life in social media, so clearly information about her being out there has never been a problem for her. now, this does not justify trespassing, but complaining about media interest sounds hypocritical in itself.

furthermore, it has been released on the most strange day. meghan is the interest of canadian, US and british press at the moment. well, kensington palace, let me tell you - no US or canadian press care today about meghan and harry. they have something more important to worry about, namely the US election, which will deeply affect how US and canada fare in the next 4 years. in fact, how the whole world fares in the next 4 years! so even the brits couldn't care less about meghan's harrassment today. as if the press release wasn't strange in itself. this adds a lot of doubt as to why a team with the experience of a royal court releases this on such a key date.

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as an aside though, am i the only one to think that meghan looks A LOT like pippa middleton? :)

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Old 11-08-2016, 09:23 AM
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The statement may not help quell the press, but I'm glad that Harry stood up for Meghan and her family and called out some of the hateful, racist and disgusting things I've seen written about them. Yes she's famous, but that doesn't mean that she (or her family) should be subjected to this type of harassment.

I see nothing wrong with Meghan or her background. She's smart, has a career and is into charity...all great qualities. I know some have a problem with her being divorced, but let's not pretend that the royals are some paragon of virtue. There have been many divorced royals.

What I find amazing, is that the behavior of those that marry into royalty have to be above reproach. The commoners seem to get blamed for ruining the monarchy and turning royals into celebs. It's as if people forget all of the scandals and behavior coming from those that are born into royalty. The divorces, affairs, shady friends and business dealings, lack of education/work ethic, rumored drug/alcohol problems, family feuds, love of the spotlight, etc. It's those royals that have done a good job of turning the monarchy into a tabloids dream.

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Who said a Royal spouse needs to even be a princess, German or otherwise?

How about if she has had a decent education(or is demonstrably intelligent) has a decent career or work ethic and cares about something other than becoming famous?

How about her qualifications for marriage include something more substantial that her "tiara hair"?

How about if we haven't seen body parts no one except her physician or husband needs to be familiar with?
I believe that pretty much all of the current royal spouses have a decent education. Most have gone on to earn a university degree (the only two that don't have degrees are Mette-Marit and Princess Sofia).

As for not showing body parts, let's not pretend that those born into royalty have adhered to this. I've seen far more than enough of Princes William, Harry, Charles, Philip, Andrew, Frederik, the Casiraghi brothers, Princess Stephanie and Princess Caroline.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:24 AM
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I think that one of the reasons they made the announcement is so that Meghan, and Harry on Meghan's behalf, can use resources to protect Meghan and her family, and dare I say, exert some measure of control over this situation.

Even without verification the media knew that it was a fact that Prince Harry was dating actress Meghan Markle and has been reporting it as a fact since a day or so after the story broke. We are now learning that even though the relationship was not acknowledged that palace officials have been involved and were having "nightly legal battles to keep defamatory stories out of papers."

Now that the story is out there, if necessary, like Cressida before her, Meghan can go to the Press Complaints Commission. Also if things get out of hand in Toronto or LA, and local law enforcement has to get involved, it won't be seen as the Markles play acting at being celebrities.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:29 AM
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furthermore, it has been released on the most strange day. meghan is the interest of canadian, US and british press at the moment. well, kensington palace, let me tell you - no US or canadian press care today about meghan and harry. they have something more important to worry about, namely the US election, which will deeply affect how US and canada fare in the next 4 years. in fact, how the whole world fares in the next 4 years! so even the brits couldn't care less about meghan's harrassment today. as if the press release wasn't strange in itself. this adds a lot of doubt as to why a team with the experience of a royal court releases this on such a key date.

The statement is trending on Facebook and Twitter. Election or no-election, this is garnering a lot of press and attention.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:31 AM
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The statement is trending on Facebook and Twitter. Election or no-election, this is garnering a lot of press and attention.
The election and the KP statement is the two biggest stories right now.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:32 AM
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If someone tried to break into your house or one of your relatives houses than that's a criminal offense but standing in a public area to ask you or your relatives a question isn't a crime.


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Old 11-08-2016, 09:36 AM
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I loved! Congratulations to the couple! I hope it ends in marriage, I I liked this girl
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:40 AM
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Well...that pretty much says it all doesn't it?

I hope the people who are attacking her for things she has no control over i.e. her ethnicity and the fact she is a middle class American, realize that the only thing it's accomplishing is perhaps driving them closer and not further apart. Every real man worthy of anything wants to protect the woman he cares about.

Harry doesn't seem like the type to turn tail and throw his girlfriend to the wolves if the heat gets too hot in the kitchen.

Good for him.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:44 AM
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The election and the KP statement is the two biggest stories right now.

In the US, the KP statement won't be come this evening. Most average Americans don't care. I am Royal watcher and if I wasn't stuck at home waiting for the painters to come I would be busy at work right now.


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Old 11-08-2016, 09:51 AM
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Exactly.

I work for a huge Fortune 500 company and this morning at the water cooler absolutely no one was talking about this Royal relationship and I don't want to speculate if anyone would even care if they did know.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:51 AM
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In the US, the KP statement won't be come this evening. Most average Americans don't care. I am Royal watcher and if I wasn't stuck at home waiting for the painters to come I would be busy at work right now.


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Yeah, I should've pointed out that this statement isn't in out mainstream media. The election is the most important thing, but this KP Statement is trending online all over the place.

I just hope the safety and privacy of this young lady will be respected and this couple will be allowed some personal space to continue on into the future. I wish the couple lots of luck.

Folks, Harry is no longer single. The media and people online no longer have to play matchmaker.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:03 AM
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The media and people online won't be playing matchmaker but wedding planner now 😉


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Old 11-08-2016, 10:35 AM
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Kensington Palace confirming rumors that have been circulating for several days about the 5th in line's dating life should not knock the US presidential election off the front page or even compete with it, but it is a huge story in the human interest and celebrity media segments which are the segments that typically run stories about the royals.

There are well over 250 people viewing his thread, and over the past week there would often be well over 50 people viewing this thread. There is a lot of interest in Harry and Meghan, and even if it diminishes somewhat, I suspect that, for the foreseeable future, the interest will remain quite high.

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I know that this is akin to an "according to sources" claim, but the following is from the Sky News article:

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While some may suggest Prince Harry should expect, and be used to this level of interest in his private life, I understand he has expressed concern that he has never seen this level of attention focused on any of his previous relationships.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:43 AM
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I am sure the media pack will soon be panting for an engagement announcement, the ring, the interview, then the wedding, but it might be wise not to get ahead of themselves.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:46 AM
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Interesting article from Sky News

Why Prince Harry acted over attacks on girlfriend Meghan Markle

She brings up the point about Harry being concerned about level of attention focused on this relationship compared to previous ones. With Chelsy, you still had William and Kate dating/engaged to take the attention away. Cressida had royal baby fever to take the attention away. Now William and Kate are boring with their 2 kids and happy marriage.

Then comes an American actress with open social media accounts, a screen history, a ex husband, a family that talked to the media. It's a press jackpot for the media. It's a big juicy steak in front a hungry pack of wolves. Would there be this much interest in 2 weeks of coverage if Harry was dating a Sophie Wessex type who was middle class, no online profile and family didn't respond to media?


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Yes, now that Harry is receiving full-on attention for his relationship he must have a lot more respect/sympathy for what William and Catherine went through during their courtship. They definitely provided Harry some buffer in the past. It's similar to what happened with Beatrice and Eugenie. The press was so busy analyzing and commenting on Beatrice and Dave's relationship, that Eugenie and Jack were largely left under the radar. Once Beatrice became single, suddenly the spotlight completely switched to Eugenie and Jack. Eugenie and Jack have received more media interest in the last 3 months than in all of their previous 6 1/2 years combined.

I also agree with your second point about an American actress vs. a Sophie Wessex type. I still remember when the American media went insane in 2002 because of Gwyneth Paltrow and Prince Felipe. And that's with the Spanish Royal Family being a lot less famous than the BRF in the USA.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:02 AM
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Meghan is an actress and has open social media accounts and regularly updates her followers on her fantastical jet-setting life.

Now the press will argue (and I'm seeing it already) that Meghan was already a public figure and was fair game from the start. It's not like she was working behind the counter at Waitrose.

I do think the British press will calm down a bit but not the American.

Now that they're officially a couple, Harry should just get it over with and be photographed with her. It may help dampen down demand for pics.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:03 AM
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I think Chelsy Davy received an enormous amount of harassment during the time that she and Harry were going out together. There was an awful lot of attention directed at her by paps and British tabloid press.

When she was still a teenager there was an incident in which she was chased in her car in South Africa and then run to earth by a journalist from a London tabloid who, it seems, when she denied she was Harry's girlfriend, waved a photo under her nose of the two of them together. She then naively perhaps, admitted it. So Harry has a long history of his girlfriends being harassed from his teen years and knows all about it.

The difference is that the interest in Chelsy and in Kate built up over a number of years. There wasn't a fire-storm over a period of a week, which IMO, forced Harry and the KP press office to act as they have.

The difference with Meghan is she is already known and will draw future interest from not just the British media but from the Canadian media, and to a certain extent, US media as well.
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