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Old 11-05-2016, 09:37 AM
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I fear you are 'wasting your breath' Duc_et_Pair, Americans [especially] will never understand what Europeans expect of their Monarchies...
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:06 AM
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I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Màxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.
Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:18 AM
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Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
It would nice to see them pictured together, if this is all true. It would confirm that Harry is no longer single.
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Old 11-05-2016, 11:40 AM
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:17 PM
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Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
I think the issue is there is no passion. There is nothing To show this is real personal passion of interest. For William and Harry we have been hold about the connection to the loss of Their mom and military work. Kate seems to be along for the ride. If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it. This is something max and Mary have both done. Maybe she needs to stop focussing on some major cause and pick something she has a connection to. All royals have multiple patronages, but you see a real difference when it us something they are passionate about. For Camilla we we it with her literacy programs, and animal Shelters, she lights up with both. Sophie is involved with eye issues each season of her daughter. We are told Kate uis a photographer and she studied art, perhaps a focus in her own areas. Or in pregnancy issues like she is said to have suffered from.

Meghan like of hate her, she has a leg up. She not only has a career, but she has had a chance U.K. Establish interests outside a boyfriend. She is passionately involved with world vision and wlmens causes. If she were to marry him, these aren't patronages she picked up to fulfill her total obligations. Seems unfortunate Kate didn't. She had dated William for years, she had plenty of time to get involved and have some idea of her own causes when she wed. Volunteering us not simply a royal thing.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it
Why on Earth should she bare her soul for the edification of total strangers ? She is an Englishwoman and is unlikely to 'emote', as North American types feel they MUST !
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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I think the issue is there is no passion. There is nothing To show this is real personal passion of interest. For William and Harry we have been hold about the connection to the loss of Their mom and military work. Kate seems to be along for the ride. If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it. This is something max and Mary have both done. Maybe she needs to stop focussing on some major cause and pick something she has a connection to. All royals have multiple patronages, but you see a real difference when it us something they are passionate about. For Camilla we we it with her literacy programs, and animal Shelters, she lights up with both. Sophie is involved with eye issues each season of her daughter. We are told Kate uis a photographer and she studied art, perhaps a focus in her own areas. Or in pregnancy issues like she is said to have suffered from.

Meghan like of hate her, she has a leg up. She not only has a career, but she has had a chance U.K. Establish interests outside a boyfriend. She is passionately involved with world vision and wlmens causes. If she were to marry him, these aren't patronages she picked up to fulfill her total obligations. Seems unfortunate Kate didn't. She had dated William for years, she had plenty of time to get involved and have some idea of her own causes when she wed. Volunteering us not simply a royal thing.
I think it's wise to leave the Duchess of Cambridge out of the conversation. It'll cause the page to be shut down for a cleaning.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:44 PM
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Childhood mental health and addiction are just two of Kate's many passions But turn a Harry relationship thread into about Kate and it will be closed. surely not every thread meeds to be about Kate
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:10 PM
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I didn't know it was. Kate has only been mentioned in passing in the last few posts. The rest of the posts have been concentrating on Meghan Markle and Harry and the many articles that have come out about them in the last week.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:12 PM
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Regarding I say that Kate is plebeian, I think there was a misunderstanding.For me it doesn't matter if the person has blue blood. Color, race, financial position .... for me isn't important. I just said that the fact that Kate did not have royal blood, could also be a problem for anyone who cares about this.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:22 PM
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A lot of people like to talk about class here at TRF. It will be interesting to see where a bi-racial American from divorced parents fits into the great British class system.

If certain people look down on a privately educated girl from the Home counties, our dear Meghan will have an awful time of it.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:29 PM
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There have been several divorcees in the BRF, including Harry's father and his second wife. Three out of the Queen's four children have been divorced, in fact. So divorce certainly isn't a novelty!

Aside from the awful British tabloids there may well be enthusiasm for a beautiful and accomplished career woman who's worked darned hard since university and has charitable work for several years under her belt as well.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:38 PM
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Viscountess Weymouth is a woman of colour and she has said she experienced a lot of snobbery and racism in the upper classes.

We'll see, maybe this is nothing more than a fling.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:39 PM
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I fear you are 'wasting your breath' Duc_et_Pair, Americans [especially] will never understand what Europeans expect of their Monarchies...
Maybe its just me but when I think of a monarchy, I believe I'm looking at a system that the country has implemented as part of its governance. Either a constitutional monarchy or an absolute monarchy. It is the heartbeat of the nation that it serves and embodies its traditions and history.

However, it is my own personal opinion that the people within the monarchy are real, live, flesh and blood human beings rather than puppets on a string that should have parameters set on just who is and who is not "acceptable" to be a spouse or a life partner. Granted there are some absolutes that have been laid down such as to be a monarch, one must be a member of the Church of England and perhaps a few others that have escaped me for the moment but when it comes to a royal and their private lives and their choices of whom they choose to share their lives with, I do believe its a personal right to be able to freely choose who is best for them without having to check off prerequisites on a list of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable in a person.

As far as Kate having her own personal issues that mean something to her, we know she's been a supporter, along with her family, of the Starlight Children's Foundation (with the earliest mention that I could find being 2009) and is also very much involved with the issue of bullying as Kate's even said that she had been bullied.

As far as William, Kate and Harry all doing things for the same issues with perhaps different slants on them, I think the reason being for that happening is that a lot of the work these three do fall under the umbrella of The Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry. These three do work well together as a team as well as working solo.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:14 PM
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I don't understand what the problem with divorced parents, if
several members of the royal family are divorced, including the children of the queen.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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It can't be used as a legitimate reason anymore...not when the next King is himself a divorced man married to a divorced woman. Once the BRF caved on the issue and their Church said it was okay, it can't be used to disqualify any royal from marrying a divorced person.


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Old 11-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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That is the problem in a nutshell. Lady Charlotte Wellesley, Hon. Alexandra Knatchbull, Tatiana Gallitzine and yes, Cressida Bonas, are more in the usual group of suspects. Not the partying and boozing lot Har, Eus and Bea frequent with.
Is Tatiana Galitzine *really* a part of the usual suspects, anymore?

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Old 11-05-2016, 02:55 PM
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Background and ancestry do play a part, especially with the yellow press. If Kate's mother's ancestors being coal miners was brought up you can be sure someone will have a field day over Megham's ancestors being slaves.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:21 PM
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It's already been brought up. There was quite a long article in one of the tabs about her ancestry and background on Meghan's mother's side. They employed a genealogist to have a dig around.

Slavery anywhere was and is absolutely awful and reprehensible but I don't think apart from some films about the American Civil War, Lincoln etc that they might have seen, that the British public knows that much about it, unlike coal mining, which has been part of the Industrial landscape of parts of England and Wales for centuries. Therefore they might find her background interesting.
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I read both her father and mother have filed for bankruptcy in the past.

Does anyone know if she has any siblings?
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