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Old 05-24-2017, 01:17 PM
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Regarding taking attention away from the bride and groom, as others have pointed out there are multiple aspects that makes one's wedding day memorable and joyous. Pippa (and Kate) have been that girl who attended a society wedding and the media coverage led with pictures of Pippa (or Kate) and then further down was the picture of the bride and groom. I am not sure it would have played out that way but if Pippa invited Meghan then she of all people would have been prepared for that.

The property where the wedding ceremony was held was private enough that not just any reporter or photographer could show up, they had to be granted access. Also, not sure if it is true or not but I read that the only members of the public who could come on the property had to be local residents and they were issued wristbands. The main point I was making about it being private property was to note that it was a highly controlled environment. Neither Meghan nor anyone else had to worry that Arthur Edwards and crew were going to hop over the barrier and breach their personal space or yell crude remarks to get a reaction.

I think that if Harry and Meghan remain a couple they will get substantial media coverage for the next 10-15 years but barring any major scandal each story / incident will run it course. Yes Meghan walking in with or without Harry would have gotten extensive coverage and analysis about fashion, how Meghan fits in with Harry's friends and family and what it signifies about their relationship because it generates clicks, but I don't see where it would have been much beyond what we already have seen about the couple when the letter came out, when Harry visited Meghan after the Caribbean tour, when Meghan attended the wedding in Jamaica, when Meghan closed down her blog, when Meghan ended her relationship with Reitmans, when Meghan showed up at the polo match, etc.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying that Meghan's presence at Pippa's wedding would not have gone beyond what has gone on before but IMO not to such a great degree that Harry and Meghan would decide to park Meghan in a hotel room for a few hours rather than attend an event that she was invited to. Is it really prudent to try to control or outfox the tabloid media? I definitely understand trying to control that element of the media who will pounce on you when you walk out the door or bug your phone but I think that it is very foolish to try to control the media from writing goofy stories about battle of the bums or X outshines Y at the wedding of the year. Just show up and walk across the grass and let the chips fall where they may because if an attractive and charismatic royal would like to marry and have a family and meets the woman of his dreams, and a woman falls in love with and wants to marry that attractive and charismatic royal and join his family business, there is no way that they are going to be able to control the intrusive and silly tabloid media other than by getting older and/or less attractive whilst having the younger generation come of age which will trigger the tabloid media inflicting their silliness and profit motives on them.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:18 PM
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Someone pointed out earlier that a PR firm doesn't only get people into the news, they also keeps people out of the news and manage the press. So someone who wants to keep the crazy stories, that they know will appear, to a minimum would also hire a PR firm.
Whether Meghan was invited to the ceremony or not, I don't think Pippa cared about being "overshadowed" but I think everyone involved wanted to keep the absurd, hysterical stories to a minimum.
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Do we know what all the PR folks did for Pippa and James? PR folks can be used to invite attention, or they can be used to control/limit press access.
Ahh, makes sense. Thanks! Clearly I am not in PR.

I was wondering why there were so many incorrect stories if the involved parties were supposedly feeding them info. The fact that the press prints whatever they want as 'speculation' and 'maybes' is horrid. And yes I was using Pippa's former courting of the media as my guide.

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Regarding taking attention away from others, as others have pointed out there are multiple aspects to someone's wedding day. Pippa (and Kate) have been that girl who attended a society wedding and the media coverage led with pictures of Pippa (or Kate) and then further down was the picture of the bride and groom. I am not sure it would have played out that way but if Pippa invited Meghan then she of all people would have been prepared for that.

The property where the wedding ceremony was held was private enough that not just any reporter or photographer could show up, they had to be granted access. Also, not sure if it is true or not but I read that the only members of the public who could come on the property had to be local residents and they were issued wrist bands. The main point I was making about it being private property was to note that it was a highly controlled environment. Neither Meghan nor anyone else had to worry that Arthur Edwards and crew were going to hop over the barrier and breech their personal space or yell crude remarks to get a reaction.

I think that everything that Harry and Meghan do (for the next 10-15 years if they remain a couple) is going to get media coverage and each store and incident will run it course. Yes Meghan walking in with or without Harry would have gotten extensive coverage and analysis about fashion, how Meghan's fit in with Harry's friends and family and what it signifies about their relationship because it generates clicks, but I don't see where it would have been much beyond what we already have seen about the couple when the letter came out, when Harry visited Meghan after the Caribbean tour, when Meghan attended the wedding in Jamaica, when Meghan closed down her blog, when Meghan ended her relationship with Reitman's, when Meghan showed up at the polo match, etc.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying that Meghan's presence at Pippa's wedding would not have gone beyond what has gone on before but IMO not to such a great degree that Harry and Meghan would decide to park Meghan in a hotel room for a few hours rather than attend an event that she was invited to. Is it really prudent to try to control or outfox the tabloid media? I definitely understand trying to control that element of the media who will pounce on you when you walk out the door or bug your phone but I think that it is very foolish to try to control the media from writing goofy stories about battle of the bums or X outshines Y at the wedding of the year. Just show up and walk across the grass and let the chips fall where they may because if an attractive and charismatic royal would like to marry and have a family, and a woman falls in love and wants to marry that attractive and charismatic royal and join the family business, there is no way that they are going to be able to control the intrusive and silly tabloid media other than by getting older and/or less attractive and having the younger generation come of age which will trigger the tabloid media inflicting their silliness and profit motives on them.
Agree completely. I do not approve of how the media acts sometimes, but this will be MM's reality if she marries into the BRF. IMO the sooner one gets used to it the better.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:31 PM
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Hi jacqui24,

I absolutely respect yours & everyone else's opinions. We can agree to disagree

My opinion is that MM has made these changes in her public life due to an understanding that that is what would be expected of her as a member of the BRF. Otherwise, it does not seem prudent of her to do so. If she & Harry end their relationship, his public life will go on as usual, but she will have to rebuild these partnerships &/or form new ones.

Hiring a PR firm for an in-law's wedding is over the top to me. The press would maybe have been interested in a couple of pics of W+K and the kids but that would be about it if left to their own devices. Again, my opinion.
Just to clarify, the Middletons hiring a PR firm for this came from Richard Palmer's comment on his twitter. I'm assuming since he's following this as part of his job, he knows some of the logistics and this is information we could trust.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:33 PM
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Just to clarify, the Middletons hiring a PR firm for this came from Richard Palmer's comment on his twitter. I'm assuming since he's following this as part of his job, he knows some of the logistics and this is information we could trust.
Richard Palmer works for the Daily Express. A tabloid.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:05 PM
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IMO if Pippa said to Harry 'sure, bring the girlfriend' she said it across the board, because Pippa is cool and Harry would have wanted to present that kind of largesse towards Meghan. But I also think both Harry and Meghan would have been considerate of space issues, because who wouldn't be?

For Meghan, however, I think this wedding was a bit different than the other she attended. This was a small family connected wedding, with royalty attending (as family). It was a situation where her presence in the church could have telegraphed certainty (for some) that Meghan and Harry are headed down the aisle themselves.

(I think one can too easily read more into the blog cessation and even the advertising cessation than is warranted. Meghan can easily re-mount those enterprises bigger and better than before. The hiatus will actually work to her advantage, but in the short term they were likely a hassle, especially the advertising which could have compromised her private life in this instance. We already know the blog was causing problems).

That Meghan demurred from attending the church (if she did, and I think she did, upon advice from her 'whoever' who have an eye for these things) says to me that Harry and Meghan are not close to being engaged. They have a ways to go yet. They are a serious couple but not quite that serious, yet. Meghan not being at the church suggests that to me.

Could be wrong, of course. Won't be the first time.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:10 PM
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Ahh, makes sense. Thanks! Clearly I am not in PR.

I was wondering why there were so many incorrect stories if the involved parties were supposedly feeding them info. The fact that the press prints whatever they want as 'speculation' and 'maybes' is horrid. And yes I was using Pippa's former courting of the media as my guide.

It's a logical assumption.

But if Pippa wanted her wedding publicized, she'd have accepted that name-your-price deal from HELLO, People, or one of the other mags.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:29 PM
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Richard Palmer works for the Daily Express. A tabloid.
Sunday Express, closely related to Daily Express, actually broke the story of Meghan and Harry. Generally Richard Palmer is regarded as reliable.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:51 PM
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Just wondering, but is there anyone in here who thinks that this time Harry hit the jackpot? The media always tries to make out that these girls are oh so lucky to be dating a Prince, but with Meghan I feel she has herself together so muh that Harry is the one who lucked out.
I think he hit the jackpot.

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What I seem to notice is that his relationship with Meghan is not particularly popular among the British public.
Where have you gotten the impression that it is not popular? I'm just interested.

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I agree up to a point. I think the media scrutiny and obsession also contributed. I don't think anyone back then expected anything like the media storm that occurred. Now, that kind of intrusion is known and expected, but then not so much, if at all.

And, I think knowing what may happen and actually experiencing it is a totally different thing. Meghan, IMHO, has only experienced a small amount of what will await her if she marries Harry.
Also, Charles was not in love with Diana and they barely dated.
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Old 05-24-2017, 04:08 PM
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Also, Charles was not in love with Diana and they barely dated.
Huh? It seems you entered your comment in the wrong thread. This is about Harry and and his relationships, not his parents. Or maybe you mean to add more to your sentence to relate it to the discussion>
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:16 PM
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I was hoping in the run up to the wedding that Meghan might have been invited to the wedding part of the events on Pippa's wedding day, even though I recognised the problems about space in the church etc. However, Meghan didn't know the bride or groom, and so it was logical I guess that she would have been invited to the evening party rather than any other.

I do not believe that the couple had a suite at Englefield House however, simply because of the photos we saw of Harry driving away from the house in shirt sleeves earlier that day. It wouldn't make sense if he was staying there. So I believe now that Meghan was probably at KP and he did go and collect her. If she had been ensconced at a nearby hotel a staff member would have given an anonymous tip off to the Press that this had happened, IMO.

The consequence of no photos at the party however has caused those who are anti MM on Tumblrs to gain heart, inferring that Meghan wasn't at any of the celebrations, that this is a showmance and the grainy photo has been photoshopped. Some people refuse to face facts!

As far as Pippa's PR rep is concerned I did note that Richard Palmer was disgruntled by it. On his Twitter Page he called the PR woman 'unhelpful' and wondered about her 'showbiz' background. He inferred that getting any info out of her, even innocuous stuff, was like pulling teeth, that the Press only received the two page programme naming bridesmaids etc, (which we have seen) and other questions went unanswered. Therefore it looks as if she was hired to keep the media and any other pesky questioners at bay!
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:28 PM
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The most important thing is that Harry and Meghan got a chance to enjoy the festivities and mingle with the family and all the other guest. We should be happy for them.

As I said before, it's going to be less of a burden when this couple become more comfortable being out and about as a couple. The media interest won't be as intense because they will get used to seeing the couple. Right now everything is so...HOT! Same Cambridge cat & mouse game is being played.
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As far as Pippa's PR rep is concerned I did note that Richard Palmer was disgruntled by it. On his Twitter Page he called the PR woman 'unhelpful' and wondered about her 'showbiz' background. He inferred that getting any info out of her, even innocuous stuff, was like pulling teeth, that the Press only received the two page programme naming bridesmaids etc, (which we have seen) and other questions went unanswered. Therefore it looks as if she was hired to keep the media and any other pesky questioners at bay!
Sometimes you hire a PR head to push it out. And sometimes you hire a PR person to draw the veil. Well done, I'd say! The whole weekend and it's handling made me so very happy. Happy for their privacy, for getting what they wanted, for thwarting the insistent press and happy they spent their energy on the moment rather than the press. Tee Tee, happy, happy for them!
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Old 05-24-2017, 09:29 PM
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If Meghan wasn't invited it was because she didn't know the family.
If Meghan was invited and didn't show up, its probably to prevent more photogs showing up trying to get a picture of her.
Or maybe she was going to go and she got her hair stuck in the curling iron so Harry had to come back for her later.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:39 PM
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Meghan and Harry are not going to win anything by pandering to the press and critics.

If they aren't photographed they broke up. If they are, rumors will spread Meghan paid off the media to know where they would be. PR for her. If they get engaged it will be a marriage of convenience. If they dont get married, because Harry realized she was a slut.

Reality is never going to please the haters. Ever. They need to enjoy their relationship as they wish it.
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I do not believe that the couple had a suite at Englefield House however, simply because of the photos we saw of Harry driving away from the house in shirt sleeves earlier that day. It wouldn't make sense if he was staying there. So I believe now that Meghan was probably at KP and he did go and collect her. If she had been ensconced at a nearby hotel a staff member would have given an anonymous tip off to the Press that this had happened, IMO.
There was a later report that made more sense-- (I read the same report with a few more details somewhere else but can't find it right now.)

Meghan Markle kept a low profile at Pippa's wedding with Prince Harry

"So how did the day unfold for Meghan and Harry? They left Kensington Palace together on Saturday morning. He then dropped her off at a house in nearby Berkshire, where she got ready. He came back to pick her up, they went to the party, and then they left to go back to KP earlier than most of the other guests,"


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Thank you, OH. Yes, that does make sense and Lainey Gossip is supposed to have links to Meghan. The Truth is, I suppose, none of us know where MM got to between wedding and evening party!
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:29 PM
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Yes, it seems to make sense. Englefield or Middleton manor didn't at all

If they had rented a hotel room, I think someone would have had loose lips by now. But if friends had rented a house for weekend, Harrys name wpuld not be attached. And no staff to be loose lipped in seeing her.
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The Lainey Gossip article was posted much earlier in this thread, so we are re-treading. Yep, it makes much better sense that Harry left Meghan at a nearby house rented by a friend in Berkshire. It probably was someplace no further away than 10 minutes from Bucklebury and maybe 15 minutes from Englefield. That entire storyline is over. And perhaps one day all the nitty gritty of Meghan's whereabouts on the day, and the dress she wore that evening will be revealed in detail, or NOT.

Pippa & James are heading for their honeymoon. Meghan is heading to Austin, Texas for a Suits 100th episode table reading event (June 8-11), while I've heard reports that Harry is in Botswana.

Meanwhile, Meghan's friend, Priyanka Chopra made an appearance on Wendy Williams talk show on Tuesday in Los Angeles to discuss her role in the new film Baywatch, and her Met Gala trench coat designer dress with train and fabulous flared collar. But of course, host Wendy did her best to try and get Priyanka to say something off the cuff about Meghan and Harry. But Priyanka is one cool beautiful lady. Boy did she brush Wendy off with flair and a smile, reminding Wendy that Meghan is more than just Prince Harry's girlfriend!

I love how Priyanka remained respectful of her friend Meghan, as well as down-to-earth, charming and discreet in her responses without batting an eyelash! Priyanka is another very together young lady. I can see why she and Meghan are friends. Although Priyanka declined to act like she and Meghan are so chummy that she expects an invitation to a so far, nonexistent wedding. Thumbs-up and five stars for Priyanka! Boo to Wendy Williams:

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She's a California girl but suddenly she can't get enough of posh British brands. Will the real Meghan Markle please stand-up.

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