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Old 05-20-2017, 02:24 PM
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Occams Razor.

She wasn't invited, if she came it would of been as a Plus One. No need to read anything into it...the most obvious is usually right.


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I don't see how that's most obvious. But if it were, why would Harry want to attend a wedding where his girlfriend (of nearly a year) wasn't invited? Why he was even there at all remains a mystery to me.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:29 PM
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The no ring no bring policy was something made up by the media. There were some couples who arrived at the ceremony who are neither engaged or married, e.g. Princess Eugenie & bf, Lady Gabriella Windsor & bf, James Middleton & gf. So it would be very odd if the 5th in line to the throne was not given a plus one.

My theory is that both Meghan & Harry decided it was best if she didn't show up to the ceremony where the media would be because of the hysteria surrounding the couple. Anytime they are spotted at a public event it will only crank up engagement talks as we saw with the Polo. The endless speculation must be driving them nuts & putting unnecessary pressure on them. Anyone whose been in a relationship knows how frustrating it can be when relatives & friends are constantly speculating about the status of your relationship. So imagine what it's like for H&M with the worlds attention on them.

I for one am glad that Meghan was a no show at the ceremony purely to give the couple some breathing space. Engagement talks began for this couple when they had only been together for a matter of months. I too have been guilty of it but I take it all back! Let us just enjoy watching them grow as a couple
Yes, but the ones mentioned wouldn't have been given a plus one.

Plus one is Harry and guest. Meaning any date.

Eugenies invitation wpuld be Eugenie and Jack. Gabrielle would be Tom and Gabrielle. James would be James and Donna.

I have never been to a wedding with a plus one ever. If you are not in enough of a relationship for your partner to be named on the invitation, you are expected to come single. Has nothing to do with rings. But the whole concept of finding a 'wedding date' makes little sense. Why should the wedding couple pay for a plate for someone you may just have met.

At the time invites were planned, Harry may just have seemed too casual with Meghan.

As for staying at Middleton during the ceremony, or bring in London and Harry going back for her, both seem unrealistic. She isn't going to stay at a strangers house, especially among caterers. Nor is Harry who drove up that morning, going to drive back to London to pick her up and back. They will need a place tonight after the party. The Cambridges will be at Middleton but Harry and Meg likely had a hotel suite. She is likely hanging out and getting ready for tonight.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:31 PM
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Meghan's presence would have upstaged the bride that is why she was not seen. I don't care about Pippa or this wedding. I only wanted to see Meghan and Harry steal the show.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:32 PM
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Which means that a future Harry/Meghan wedding will be Middleton free?? Lets hope!

Seriously, who knows exactly why she wasn't there. I'm inclined to believe though that it isn't as simple as her not being invited or even that she didn't want to take attention away from the bride. There's quite a bit that just isn't adding up to me.
That would be a workable theory except Harry did attend the wedding so it would be normal of him to reciprocate an invite. Fair play would be if James and Donna broke up and he got a new girlfriend, and then an engaged Harry didn't invite the brand new gf (that he likely never met).
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:33 PM
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Yes, but the ones mentioned wouldn't have been given a plus one.

Plus one is Harry and guest. Meaning any date.

Eugenies invitation epic be Eugenie and Jack. Gabrielle would be Tom and Gabrielle. James would be James and Donna.

I have never been to a wedding with a plus one ever. If you are not in enough of a relationship for your partner to be named on the invitation, you are expected to come single. Has nothing to do with rings. But the whole concept of finding a 'wedding date' makes little sense. Why should the wedding couple pay for a plate for someone you may just have met.

At the time invites were planned, Harry may just have seemed too casual with Meghan.

As for staying at Middleton during the ceremony, or bring in London and Harry going back for her, both seem unrealistic. She isn't going to stay at a strangers house, especially among caterers. Nor is Harry who drove up that morning, going yo drive back to London to pick her up and back. They will need a place tonight after the party. The Cambridges will be at Middleton but Harry and Meg likely had a hotel suite. She is likely hanging out and getting ready for tonight.
The Windsor theory is more plausible; I had no idea of the geography of Berkshire?) so put out the hotel idea, but I would think that a comfy afternoon at the family castle would be more in the Prince's scheme of things for his Meghan.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:34 PM
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I don't see how that's most obvious. But if it were, why would Harry want to attend a wedding where his girlfriend (of nearly a year) wasn't invited? Why he was even there at all remains a mystery to me.
As a guest, if you accept the invitiation, youre job is to be cheerful, friendly & make the day as good as possible for the host & other guests. A host can invite anyone he or she likes & if they dont want to invite someones not-live-in-partner that they might never even have met theyre under no obligation to do so. Im sure there are many other people theyd want to invite instead.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:34 PM
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I don't see how that's most obvious. But if it were, why would Harry want to attend a wedding where his girlfriend (of nearly a year) wasn't invited? Why he was even there at all remains a mystery to me.
Because it seems possible that whether we see them or not (via photos) Harry, Eugenie and Lady Gabriella must socialize somewhere with Pippa and/or James and they are friends.
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Old 05-20-2017, 02:38 PM
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I don't see how that's most obvious. But if it were, why would Harry want to attend a wedding where his girlfriend (of nearly a year) wasn't invited? Why he was even there at all remains a mystery to me.
I would imagine folks do attend weddings quite often without their boyfriend/girlfriend. Actually I know they do. When his invitation was rec'd did it include a Plus One? We don't know.

I'm not sure why it's a mystery? Even here in the midwest such things go on. I have a daughter that plans to marry in the next year or so...and she's already said the wedding is going to be very small, but they plan to have a reception larger. There will be a number of folks who will not receive an invite to the wedding but will be invited to the reception.




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Old 05-20-2017, 02:39 PM
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The Windsor theory is more plausible; I had no idea of the geography of Berkshire?) so put out the hotel idea, but I would think that a comfy afternoon at the family castle would be more in the Prince's scheme of things for his Meghan.
Meghan who has not even met the queen, staying at her estate when Harry isn't even there is more plausible to you Others were joking about Windsor. It's one thing to have her stay at his apartments in London. But to invite her to crash at Windsor, spending the day there when he isn't there

Only plausible thought she'd be at Windsor is royal lodge. Harry is close to his cousins. Perhaps slim chance they are hanging out with Eugenie at royal lodge as they are all wedding guests.

Windsor is a hour and a half round trip from Bucklebury.
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:00 PM
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That would be a workable theory except Harry did attend the wedding so it would be normal of him to reciprocate an invite. Fair play would be if James and Donna broke up and he got a new girlfriend, and then an engaged Harry didn't invite the brand new gf (that he likely never met).
Oh goodness, I thought it was fairly obvious that was being facetious? lol Though if we really buy into the "Meghan wasn't invited" theory then Pippa/the Middletons certainly don't come off looking good, especially if they were to show up at a wedding with Meghan as bride.

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Because it seems possible that whether we see them or not (via photos) Harry, Eugenie and Lady Gabriella must socialize somewhere with Pippa and/or James and they are friends.
Eh. I doubt they are all that friendly. Certainly, if that were the case, one would think his girlfriend would be at the wedding as well, just like we saw with the others. (And no, I don't buy into the upstaging theory since Harry and Meghan were just recently at another one of Harry's *actual* friend's weddings.)

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I would imagine folks do attend weddings quite often without their boyfriend/girlfriend. Actually I know they do. When his invitation was rec'd did it include a Plus One? We don't know.

I'm not sure why it's a mystery? Even here in the midwest such things go on. I have a daughter that plans to marry in the next year or so...and she's already said the wedding is going to be very small, but they plan to have a reception larger. There will be a number of folks who will not receive an invite to the wedding but will be invited to the reception.


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Why would his not include a Plus One when it's obvious now, that others had a Plus One? And how many folks are traveling to other countries, only to wait around for their significant other to come back from a wedding that they weren't invited to? I'm sorry but that's just weird, IMO. Not at all comparable to normal circumstances.
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:06 PM
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Oh goodness, I thought it was fairly obvious that was being facetious? lol Though if we really buy into the "Meghan was't invited" theory then Pippa/the Middletons certainly don't come off looking good, especially if they were to show up at a wedding with Meghan as bride.



Eh. I doubt they are all that friendly. Certainly, if that were the case, one would think his girlfriend would be at the wedding as well, just like we saw with the others. (And no, I don't buy into the upstaging theory since Harry and Meghan were just recently at another one of Harry's *actual* friend's weddings.)



Why would his not include a Plus One when it's obvious now, that others had a Plus One? And how many folks are traveling to other countries, only to wait around for their significant other to come back from a wedding that they weren't invited to? I'm sorry but that's just weird, IMO. Not at all comparable to normal circumstances.
It's not obvious others had a plus one. Eugenie has been dating for years. Her invitation likely said Princees Eugenie and Mr Jack... Same with Gabrielle and Donna air. They would have been named on the invitation.

As has been addressed, more people will be at the reception. If she hadn't been invited to part of the wedding, no she would likely not come from Toronto. Adding someone to a party later on is far easier then a limited church space or reception when you'd have set table placings long ago
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Folks, Harry and Meghan have arrived at the reception. I think everyone can calm down.
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Oh goodness, I thought it was fairly obvious that was being facetious? lol Though if we really buy into the "Meghan wasn't invited" theory then Pippa/the Middletons certainly don't come off looking good, especially if they were to show up at a wedding with Meghan as bride.



Eh. I doubt they are all that friendly. Certainly, if that were the case, one would think his girlfriend would be at the wedding as well, just like we saw with the others. (And no, I don't buy into the upstaging theory since Harry and Meghan were just recently at another one of Harry's *actual* friend's weddings.)



Why would his not include a Plus One when it's obvious now, that others had a Plus One? And how many folks are traveling to other countries, only to wait around for their significant other to come back from a wedding that they weren't invited to? I'm sorry but that's just weird, IMO. Not at all comparable to normal circumstances.
My cousins girlfriend, who lived 600 km away, spent his mother & stepdads wedding in his flat watching tv. No +1 was invited and neither she, he had any problems with that. She did not want to be introduced to the family en masse at a wedding.
She did show up at the wedding brunch the day after.
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Folks, Harry and Meghan have arrived at the reception. I think everyone can calm down.
Dman are you watching a live feed or ?


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It's not obvious others had a plus one. Eugenie has been dating for years. Her invitation likely said Princees Eugenie and Mr Jack... Same with Gabrielle and Donna air. They would have been named on the invitation.

As has been addressed, more people will be at the reception. If she hadn't been invited to part of the wedding, no she would likely not come from Toronto. Adding someone to a party later on is far easier then a limited church space or reception when you'd have set table placings long ago
All I'm going to say to this is that it's been obvious for awhile now that Harry and Meghan are serious and I've been to enough weddings to know changes are made to accommodate guests. I certainly don't believe that making room for one guest a few months in advance would just be asking too much.

With that said, let me just make it clear that I don't care that Meghan wasn't at the wedding. But these particular circumstances seem odd to me and none of the explanations are adding up.


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My cousins girlfriend, who lived 600 km away, spent his mother & stepdads wedding in his flat watching tv. No +1 was invited and neither she, he had any problems with that. She did not want to be introduced to the family en masse at a wedding.
She did show up at the wedding brunch the day after.
Ok. Still doesn't convince me that this situation is any less strange.
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Dman are you watching a live feed or ?


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The constraint was likely the size of the church so not everyone invited could bring a guest to the church but could bring a guest to one or both of the other events and from there it was Meghan's choice to make the trip knowing she would not be able to attend all of the wedding events.
I certainly tend to agree with your opinion. I definitely see nothing sinister in the fact that Harry's current love was not in the small church. I think things are blown out of whack on this by media.
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All I'm going to say to this is that it's been obvious for awhile now that Harry and Meghan are serious and I've been to enough weddings to know changes are made to accommodate guests. I certainly don't believe that making room for one guest a few months in advance would just be asking too much.

With that said, let me just make it clear that I don't care that Meghan wasn't at the wedding. But these particular circumstances seem odd to me and none of the explanations are adding up.




Ok. Still doesn't convince me that this situation is any less strange.
I think what is abnormal in your eyes, is actually really normal in their circle. Jack Brooksbank didn't get invited to either William or Zara's weddings even though he had been dating Eugenie for over a year at that point. During the 3 years Pippa dated Nico, she probably attended around 15 weddings yet Nico was only invited to 2 of those weddings.

And we must not forget that neither Catherine nor Chelsy were invited to Charles and Camilla's church blessing. This all seems rather standard.
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Ok thanks...not sure about 'apparently' ....but I would be surprised if she wasn't at the reception.


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I don't see how that's most obvious. But if it were, why would Harry want to attend a wedding where his girlfriend (of nearly a year) wasn't invited? Why he was even there at all remains a mystery to me.
If Harry didn't want to attend without girlfriend, he would not have gone. His decision.
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