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Old 05-15-2017, 05:17 PM
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Actually, at the time Harry and KP released the statement to admonish the press for their treatment of Meghan and her family, I saw it as them putting their money where their mouth is so to speak. It wasn't issued just because Meghan happened to be the girlfriend of Harry's at the time but because it was downright bullying and harassing and intrusion tactics against another human being that resulted from a press interest because of a royal.

If I'm not mistaken, The Royal Foundation already had in place a campaign against bullying in many areas of society that Will, Kate and Harry had addressed previous to this KP release. With Meghan, the press overstepped their boundaries and the right and proper thing that was done is to publicly call them out for their bad behavior. The statement not only was a means of protecting Meghan but was also setting a clear example that it should not and will not be tolerated and fortified the stance the royals were taking already on such matters.

At least thats how I see it.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:32 PM
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Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003 with a double major in Theater and International Relations. That is a fact which has been backed up by numerous sources.

On Meghan being political, my fear, however, is that Meghan, like many Americans, may have the illusion that the British Royal Family can actually influence public policy and, accordingly, may be tempted to see her marriage to Harry as a way to do so. Although the monarch and, to a lesser extent, the heir to the Crown may still have a marginal (albeit declining ) political influence (mostly due to their direct line of communication with the government) , Meghan, as the wife of the 5th in line to the throne, will have no such power. Again, if she expects to have any political influence then, she may be indeed on her way to a disappointing (but not necessarily "rough") awakening.
If Meghan picks up a newspaper at all, she'll have seen the coverage of Charles' "black spider memos". It was covered in WaPo, NYT, the Toronto Star, The Globe and Mail, and the National Post. So the basic premise -- that it was a problem for the PoW to try to influence policy -- has been well covered in North America. Unless she strikes you as someone who doesn't pay any attention to the news, she's likely fine.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:54 PM
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!

I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:01 PM
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!



I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.


Her friends seem to call her Meghan. It really depends on when she started using the name. My husband has gone by his middle name his whole life- since he was a toddler at least. His school has him listed by his formal name but no one calls him that.

KP referred to her as Meghan in their official letter.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:08 PM
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!

I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.
Her friends call her Meghan. Schools and any official documents they issue would have her official name, rather than what she goes by, on it.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:24 PM
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Yeps. Just like Harry is Prince Henry of Wales but no one really calls him Henry.
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:54 AM
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.

The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:29 AM
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.

The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.
Funny story. My grandmother's name -- so far as I've always known -- is E.... M.... [last name]. But then one day I saw her birth certificate, where it was listed as M.... E..... [last name]. I asked her about it; E & M were her aunts, and M was the older of the two. My great-grandparents wanted to call her E, but M was the older of the aunts. So they put M first on the birth certificate and called her E.

However, her passport, nursing diploma, and driver's licence were all under E.... M.... [last name]. When I asked her what she'd signed in the registry when she married Grandpa, she said "E.... M...., of course". To which I asked her if she was actually married.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:16 AM
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.



The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.


Not necessarily...

My grandmother had 4 names including her last name (I- M- I- Last Name), but always went by her first middle name (M-). She had some legal documentation that listed her as I- M- I- Last Name, others that were just I- M- Last Name, and others still that were M- Last Name; it all just depended on the documentation. I had to make a call for her once regarding a prescription for her and had her BC ID, her healthcare card (government issued), SIN card, and her personal insurance card, each which had a different name on it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:41 AM
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But Meghan Markle is not the age of any of our grandmothers. Authorities have generally become much, much bigger sticklers for to-the-letter legal names than in past generations.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:55 AM
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Meghan has said in an interview that even though she was named Rachel Meghan by her parents, she has never been called Rachel. I guess it was her parents decision to start referring to her as Meghan from childhood & it stuck! It is not unusual for some parents to call their kids by their middle name.
On a side note there is already a precedence for royals to go by their middle names. Queen Victoria for instance was actually christened Alexandrina Victoria. So Meghan is in good company!

On all official documents & during her wedding vows she will be referred to as Rachel Meghan, but at all other times she goes by Meghan. I’m pretty sure Harry also calls her Meghan along with any other cute & mushy nicknames they’ve given each other!

Interview where she talks about her name (15 seconds in)
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:11 AM
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Actually, at the time Harry and KP released the statement to admonish the press for their treatment of Meghan and her family, I saw it as them putting their money where their mouth is so to speak. It wasn't issued just because Meghan happened to be the girlfriend of Harry's at the time but because it was downright bullying and harassing and intrusion tactics against another human being that resulted from a press interest because of a royal.

already on such matters.

At least thats how I see it.
I doubt it. I'd say that it has to do with the fact that meghan is a serious girlfriend of H's.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:11 AM
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You have to admit though that the action taken amplifies the stances W&K&H were/are taking on bullying. In fact, I believe the Duke of Cambridge has an engagement on cyberbullying that just has been posted not too long ago.

Either way, the action was called for and was taken and heeded. That is really all that matters in the long run.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:24 PM
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The Queen has given permission for Prince Harry to marry Meghan Markle – Royal Central

Considering the source, I doubt this is true.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:46 PM
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If Meghan picks up a newspaper at all, she'll have seen the coverage of Charles' "black spider memos". It was covered in WaPo, NYT, the Toronto Star, The Globe and Mail, and the National Post. So the basic premise -- that it was a problem for the PoW to try to influence policy -- has been well covered in North America. Unless she strikes you as someone who doesn't pay any attention to the news, she's likely fine.
As an American who does pay attention to the news, I will say that it is still possible for her to not understand how the BRF works and that they are to be seen and not heard. It could be difficult for her to accept that IF she marries Harry she no longer has the right to an opinion.
As for Meghan's name, I find it funny that this is such an issue here when Harry has never gone by his legal name.

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Some people are mad at Meghan for being upset over the media's racist coverage of her mother's family. They see nothing wrong with the coverage stating that Meghan should just keep quiet over the racist overtones and accept it. So as always instead of supporting the victim the champion the rights of the racist media and place the blame on the person who did not ask for the abuse. I find it all sad.
Who are these gosh darn people? How pathetic!
Speaking of the racist coverage towards her what exactly went down about that? Was it legit news that were directing racist comments to her family?
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:48 PM
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Speaking of the racist coverage towards her what exactly went down about that? Was it legit news that were directing racist comments to her family?
As it is pretty much water under the bridge now, suffice to say, its an area of conversation that's best left alone. We've been advised by our moderators to steer completely away from any kind of discussion relating to Meghan's biological makeup and I think its for the best.

If you really want to delve into what happened to have Harry issue the statement from KP, I imagine that its all to be found by doing a simple search. All I can say is that the statement issued was warranted.
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As it is pretty much water under the bridge now, suffice to say, its an area of conversation that's best left alone. We've been advised by our moderators to steer completely away from any kind of discussion relating to Meghan's biological makeup and I think its for the best.

If you really want to delve into what happened to have Harry issue the statement from KP, I imagine that its all to be found by doing a simple search. All I can say is that the statement issued was warranted.
True it is water under the bridge, the statement mostly put a stop to all the ridiculous headlines about her mother's side of the statement, so IMHO it worked.
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Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003 with a double major in Theater and International Relations. That is a fact which has been backed up by numerous sources.

On Meghan being political, my fear, however, is that Meghan, like many Americans, may have the illusion that the British Royal Family can actually influence public policy and, accordingly, may be tempted to see her marriage to Harry as a way to do so. Although the monarch and, to a lesser extent, the heir to the Crown may still have a marginal (albeit declining ) political influence (mostly due to their direct line of communication with the government) , Meghan, as the wife of the 5th in line to the throne, will have no such power. Again, if she expects to have any political influence then, she may be indeed on her way to a disappointing (but not necessarily "rough") awakening.
I feel like we're being a bit unfair towards Meghan when it comes to her expectations of what it would be to be a British Royal.

Don't get me wrong, I was completely in this camp when the relationship was first made public. Meghan was a public person who had been outspoken about her beliefs in interviews. She was very active on social media. As an American, she grew up with a culture that promotes freedom of speech and the idea that everyone is equal. These are ideas that aren't exactly compatible with the system of monarchy, or with how Harry has typically lived his life.

But Meghan's behaviour since this relationship became public has been different since the relationship became public. She's not spoken to the media, she's not discussed her relationship publicly. Since Christmas she's almost entirely stopped using social media. She's not spoken about politics (at a time when many American actors are very vocal about everything going on in the US right now). She's not done much to promote her own show, and ended not one but two business ventures. She has done a lot to appear to be fitting into the idea of what the wife of a British Prince should be. Does that mean that this relationship is going to be smooth sailing from here on out? Not necessarily. But I do think we should look at her actions and recognize what she's doing for what it is.
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Not necessarily...

My grandmother had 4 names including her last name (I- M- I- Last Name), but always went by her first middle name (M-). She had some legal documentation that listed her as I- M- I- Last Name, others that were just I- M- Last Name, and others still that were M- Last Name; it all just depended on the documentation. I had to make a call for her once regarding a prescription for her and had her BC ID, her healthcare card (government issued), SIN card, and her personal insurance card, each which had a different name on it.
Then things have become a lot stricter now a days. Because when you apply for any ID you have to give valid ID and names have to match. I used to do all the scheduling and billing for a doctors office, and I can tell you the issues it causes if you some how manage to get around using your legal name. Actually a legal contract can be considered null in many cases if you don't use your proper.

One piece people sometimes get away with it is their health card. Learned quickly when entering a patients information to look at name on drivers and on health card. Because often didn't match. And pharmacies would call to get a new perscription issued as names didn't match. Because pharmacies require picture ID, and your drivers license has your legal name.

If you don't want your legal name on legal documents, change it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 11:25 PM
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Interesting interview. She's very dynamic, as well as gracious. She totally owns the space, maneuvers the pace and dialog to make the interview hum along. (Knows exactly what the camera is seeing of her, too). I could see her as having her own interview show. She's sharp. She's got the edge.

If her relationship with Harry winds up being an interesting interlude for her (and him) but no more, she has what it takes to do whatever she wants. I'd steer her towards television news/interviews etc. I'd watch her. Good chemistry.
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