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Old 05-10-2017, 09:30 PM
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I understand that a select few feel an actress marrying a royal brings down the royalness of it all. I would accept opinion as opposed to those who think Meghan isn't good enough because shes American. But I've started d to believe that once a ball gets rolling you can't stop it. You can't say one commoner, Kate, is better than another Megan. And at least the later has a successful career even if she is D list.
I pretty much wager my last Klondike Bar (chocolate mint) that Meghan is on Harry's A+++ list. That's really all that matters.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:41 PM
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Let's be honest.. calling Meghan D-list is straight up just a way to insult her. "D-list" means people on reality television; it in no way reflects her level of accomplishment or fame.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:54 PM
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I thought D list were porn stars... reality tv peeps are Z listers! Meg is definitely B, B-.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:58 PM
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Putting these people in alphabetical lists are like comparing podiatrists with dermatologists. They both do what they're best at.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:58 PM
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Putting these people in alphabetical lists are like comparing podiatrists with dermatologists. They both do what they're best at.


that's very funny

By the way by me saying Meghan isn't in Graces league as a actor is by no means putting her down just stating the fact. Now if that makes less or more able to be a princess I have absolutely no idea. It's a huge commitment for anyone who marries into a RF
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:32 PM
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Generally speaking

A: movie stars and headliners. Box office starlets
B: succesful actors well known but not huge ticket sellers
C: often character actors, people whose character may be known but they themselves are so so.
D: reality stars. Obscure actors at best.

Meghan low B (high b now with Harry) to high c. Identified mainly with her character but some success outside suits, pushes her to low b.

Royals today don't need aristocratic blood. They need to be able to do the job. They need to be comfortable in public, able to make speeches, not flustered by media, and dedicated to charity. Nothing I have seen of Meghan leads me to believe she doesn't have any of these in spades. Being an actress is actually a good foundation for a lot.

I often find it interesting there wasn't the same issue with Cressida. She was a dancer and actress. Seems to be over looked as she is English, and has some posh blood.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:34 PM
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Whatever list of an actress Meghan is, doesn't really matter, IMO. She's been on a long running show for years, and many actresses only dream about getting even her kind of career. It Imo again boils down to some people demanding the woman Harry's dating to be A list in whatever she does, be supermodel beautiful, but still be ready to walk away from that A list career the moment she exchanged numbers with Harry.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:38 PM
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Whatever list of an actress Meghan is, doesn't really matter, IMO. She's been on a long running show for years, and many actresses only dream about getting even her kind of career. It Imo again boils down to some people demanding the woman Harry's dating to be A list in whatever she does, be supermodel beautiful, but still be ready to walk away from that A list career the moment she exchanged numbers with Harry.
Exactly. Said it before he could date a woman who looked like Giselle Buncheon, had two doctorates, and found a cure for some disease while devoting her life to Doctors Without Borders, and people would still complain. The level of perfection some people seem to expect I don't think exist in a human being.
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Generally speaking



A: movie stars and headliners. Box office starlets

B: succesful actors well known but not huge ticket sellers

C: often character actors, people whose character may be known but they themselves are so so.

D: reality stars. Obscure actors at best.



Meghan low B (high b now with Harry) to high c. Identified mainly with her character but some success outside suits, pushes her to low b.



Royals today don't need aristocratic blood. They need to be able to do the job. They need to be comfortable in public, able to make speeches, not flustered by media, and dedicated to charity. Nothing I have seen of Meghan leads me to believe she doesn't have any of these in spades. Being an actress is actually a good foundation for a lot.



I often find it interesting there wasn't the same issue with Cressida. She was a dancer and actress. Seems to be over looked as she is English, and has some posh blood.


I don't think many took it serious I never did I thought she was just someone for a bit of fun.
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Old 05-11-2017, 03:54 AM
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. . . As much as I do not believe that anyone is better than anyone else simply by virtue of their birth, royalty does have an air of elitism and royals are seen as being 'a cut above'. They should not be celebrities even though the younger generations seem to be steering things that way, and the possible addition of an actual (granted D-list) celebrity to any royal family lessens the specialness (for lack of a better word) for me.
I don't think that young or even not so young royals aspire to celebrity but rather are hounded by the media because they can be. Imagine the childhood of both HM and Princess Margaret who were photographed at their parents' discretion and, when they grew older and attended official engagements they expected to be photographed and perhaps have the occasional journalist ask an impertinent question which they totally ignored.

Seventy years later, the royals are faced with a multi-media world that technology keeps improving. The current wave of media all seem to believe that anything they do to get a story is valid, there are no thoughts of ethics, merely the money to be made by getting the first photo of what they consider "news". They don't even recognise the difference between royalty and celebrity, thus we have a lawbreaking photo of DoC sunbathing topless in privacy exposed by a technology that rendered her privacy void. Conversely, we have a romance that is driving the competition to be the first to get a photo of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle;

together - check
holding hands - check
kissing- check
visiting each other's home - check and check

and I daren't even think about what the next "first" is.

Harry seeks publicity for his charitable endeavours, Meghan seeks publicity in her role of Global Ambassador for World Vision Canada, also as an advocate for the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women. Neither of them is acting as a celebrity.

I have never seen Meghan as an "A, B, C or D, Celebrity" but rather as an actress, an activist and a feminist. Somehow I thought the "feminist" would be the stumbling block.
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Old 05-11-2017, 05:11 AM
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Osipi.. Lord Fermoy was merely a minor Peer, not a Prince of the Realm.

That said, if Ms Markle is the Harry's desired wife, and acceptable to his family and a RADICAL change of life is alright by Ms Markel, then 'who am I to judge'. I'll wish them well..
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I've been reading all these articles on the fact that Meghan has been invited to all of Pippa's wedding events.

I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend.
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.


We have no idea what she is invited to I'm sure Pippa isn't talking to the DM and neither is Meghan.
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:28 AM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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Ugh I'm so tired of her....go away....just give her the money so she can shut up!
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Osipi.. Lord Fermoy was merely a minor Peer, not a Prince of the Realm.

That said, if Ms Markle is the Harry's desired wife, and acceptable to his family and a RADICAL change of life is alright by Ms Markel, then 'who am I to judge'. I'll wish them well..
It wasn't about Lord Fermoy but rather that Harry's 2nd cousin, 1 time removed is actually a successful American actor also.

I do agree with you that should Meghan decide to start a life with Harry, as his life is pretty much plotted out for him that she'll have to leave behind any commercial ventures and professional acting but perhaps that is what she feels is an advantage. To work on the global world stage with Harry and who knows, perhaps find ways in charitable work to promote drama as an art form with kids to build confidence.

Sometimes a road we take in life is just to provide experience for a different road that we never planned on or thought existed.
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Ugh I'm so tired of her....go away....just give her the money so she can shut up!
If Harry & Meghan do get engaged and marry, it will unfortunately get worse. The media will want her to comment on every milestone in their lives whether she knows anything about it or not. And if they break up, I'm sure she'll have a lot to say about that too. Being American, she will not give a toss if Harry's family requests that she not talk to the media. Like you said, only money will shut her up, so hopefully the BRF is willing to pay up.
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Ugh I'm so tired of her....go away....just give her the money so she can shut up!




Never pay an extortionist, because they won't shut up and go away.
They'll always be back for more.


IF there is a wedding, send a message and don't invite her.
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:53 PM
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Unfortunately, Meghan's half sister who is reported to not actively being involved in Meghan's life in any way, is the black sheep of the family that loves to bleat about things she doesn't really know about but pretends to. Its just the fact that she has the connection of being Meghan's half sister that tabloid columnists rely on for readers to believe what comes out of her mouth.

I'm sure Meghan is aware of this and if there is a wedding, I'd be very, very surprised if Samantha was invited. Obvious outcome from that would be Samantha bleating to the press how her "dear" half sister couldn't even see to fly her to the UK to participate in her "dear" sister's most important day.

Some people are like that. Some people believe people like that. I'm glad we know better.
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IF there is a wedding, send a message and don't invite her.
As things appear to be now between them I would think she would not be invited. But I would not put it past some tabloid to send her to London during the (possible) wedding festivities hoping to stir up drama, or at least stage sad-faced photo-ops at the church, reception venue, etc.
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Old 05-11-2017, 01:11 PM
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Shhhhhhh... lets not go giving the tabloids any bright ideas.

If my memory serves me at all today, I seem to remember the press making a big deal out of Sarah not being invited to Will & Kate's wedding and she was the groom's aunt.

It would be nice to have Samantha Grant quietly fade away into the Florida sunset but I have a sneaking suspicion that just ain't gonna happen.
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Old 05-11-2017, 02:16 PM
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Shhhhhhh... lets not go giving the tabloids any bright ideas.

If my memory serves me at all today, I seem to remember the press making a big deal out of Sarah not being invited to Will & Kate's wedding and she was the groom's aunt.
Well, to be fair, Sarah herself fanned that flame quite a bit. She even whined about it in an interview with Oprah Winfrey shortly after the wedding. Which was a prime example of the behavior that prevents her from being invited to such things...

But yes, this sister will talk to anyone who'll listen, and she'll find more and more to say as long as money is dangled in front of her. So let's not encourage anyone to give her that money!
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