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Old 05-10-2017, 04:57 PM
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Harry is going to marry Meghan and he couldn't careless what anyone that doesn't like it has to say. And his grandmother will not deny his request if he hasn't made it already which I think he has and they are already engaged!

So, all these objections and negativity is pointless no matter where it comes from.
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Old 05-10-2017, 05:10 PM
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I just thought that that little bit of the family tree was interesting and there was some negativity in the beginning over the Amercan/actress thing but that's mostly dissipated by now.

We don't know if they're engaged or not. We don't know if they've even discussed marriage and family yet. We certainly do not know the mind the Queen and if Harry has even broached the subject to her. We only know what we know and everything else is pure speculation.

I'll believe an engagement when it is formally announced by the couple themselves.
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:47 PM
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I wish...

that Suits were a more highly regarded show, the type nominated for awards. Because honestly, as much fuss as everyone makes about when, where, and how Meghan might accompany Harry to various engagements, I would truly love to see him manoeuvring an Emmy or Oscar or Bafta red carpet as her plus one!
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:03 PM
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Oh sheesh. Mental picture of Harry in a tux on the red carpet.

I don't think (and this is just my opinion) that Harry would ever attend such an event for the main reason being that a lot of them are connected to business and commercial enterprises and it may seem like Harry by being there, endorses them.

Then again, maybe not. What do I know?
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:11 PM
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I've been reading all these articles on the fact that Meghan has been invited to all of Pippa's wedding events.

I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend. 🤔
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:15 PM
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I've been reading all these articles on the fact that Meghan has been invited to all of Pippa's wedding events.

I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend. 🤔
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.
I'm not sure we can trust any details we've heard about the ins-and-outs of Pippa's guest list. We've heard that there are not girlfriends, we don't know that's true. We've heard that Meghan is invited to part -- no, all -- no, a different part -- no, now it's all again...we don't know that any of the iterations of that story are true.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:16 PM
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Remember too that these are articles written by the media. Do they give any credible sources for their information? I seriously doubt that they're on confidential terms with the Middletons.

I'm more likely to believe that they're speculating to fill article pages with the names Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to generate buyers and click bait for their advertisers.

We'll soon know more when the wedding happens. As I've said before, I'll believe the couple is engaged when they announce it themselves.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:54 PM
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Exactly right - we will know if and when Harry and Meghan get engaged: it will be if and when an announcement is made. There really is no point whatsoever saying it'll be in the summer, it'll be after Invictus, it won't be until the end of the year - upon what basis do we make such assumption? None whatsoever! It is not a competition to to see who is right!
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:56 PM
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I am going to try to express my thoughts as politically correctly as possible Please note, these are my opinions only!

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Oh sheesh. Mental picture of Harry in a tux on the red carpet.

I don't think (and this is just my opinion) that Harry would ever attend such an event for the main reason being that a lot of them are connected to business and commercial enterprises and it may seem like Harry by being there, endorses them.

Then again, maybe not. What do I know?
As much as I do not believe that anyone is better than anyone else simply by virtue of their birth, royalty does have an air of elitism and royals are seen as being 'a cut above'. They should not be celebrities even though the younger generations seem to be steering things that way, and the possible addition of an actual (granted D-list) celebrity to any royal family lessens the specialness (for lack of a better word) for me.

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I've been reading all these articles on the fact that Meghan has been invited to all of Pippa's wedding events.

I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend. 🤔
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.
If accurate, then I think it has more to do with Harry being a prince than anything else. If he were Harry Wales, Esq or CPA, I do not think a 'mere' girlfriend would be invited, if that is the protocol for this wedding. But if Meaghan is invited and not the groom's own brother's girlfriend, I would not be pleased if I were said groom, brother, or girlfriend.
If an engagement is announced, I hope it is not until her show's most recent season has completed airing. I guess for me it all boils down to the fact that the possibility of a celebrity marrying into any royal family lessens whatever prestige is associated with the institution. However, I hope that when Harry does marry, he marries the right woman for the right reasons and is very happy.

I understand and respect that others have a very different view; this just happens to be mine
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:12 PM
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Such as Grace Kelly marrying the reigning Prince of Monaco and bringing down the Principality's prestige?
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:15 PM
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As much as I do not believe that anyone is better than anyone else simply by virtue of their birth, royalty does have an air of elitism and royals are seen as being 'a cut above'. They should not be celebrities even though the younger generations seem to be steering things that way, and the possible addition of an actual (granted D-list) celebrity to any royal family lessens the specialness (for lack of a better word) for me.
I based my opinion on something totally different than you did. As the British Royal Family (mainly the Queen) need to remain politically neutral, it is the same thing, to me at least, with commercial ventures. They do not want anything that could point to the fact that the BRF prefers something over another.

Case in example. The Boogity Awards for best hairstyle on TV is sponsored by Coca Cola. Meghan and Harry attend as she has gorgeous hair. It would be all to easy to spin it to mean that Harry, Prince of the UK prefers Coke over Pepsi.

We have seen William and Kate attend BAFTA events as William is president of BAFTA so who knows? Nothing much surprises me these days.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:24 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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Old 05-10-2017, 08:26 PM
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They attend as the events are for charity. Same applies to the Royal Film Performance (HMQ used to attend every year) and the Royal Command Performance. All money raised is for designated charities.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:29 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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Her?! Meghan's public enemy #1 and first and foremost critic?!
Samantha Grant should be ashamed of herself.

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Exactly right - we will know if and when Harry and Meghan get engaged: it will be if and when an announcement is made. There really is no point whatsoever saying it'll be in the summer, it'll be after Invictus, it won't be until the end of the year - upon what basis do we make such assumption? None whatsoever! It is not a competition to to see who is right!
No it is not a competition to see who will be right or wrong. Neither do I have credible inside sources on the couple..etc

As I mentioned in my post, it is just my thoughts on the status of the couple's relationship after reading all the articles about Meghan's supposed full attendance at Pippa's wedding.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:34 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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And there we have it folks. Straight from a very discreditable source known for running at the mouth.
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Such as Grace Kelly marrying the reigning Prince of Monaco and bringing down the Principality's prestige?


I know what you mean but I can't compare Monaco with UK. I don't know a lot about Monaco but I associate it with casinos, Hollywood celebrities etc if this is before or after Grace I don't know. Anyway I don't think it matters for Meghan. I have read a bit about how Grace missed her acting but Meghan is no where near Graces standing as an actor
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Such as Grace Kelly marrying the reigning Prince of Monaco and bringing down the Principality's prestige?
Good point But Monaco is, shall we say, unique. And Grace Kelly was considered to be the epitome of class and glamour; now if Rainier had married someone like Joan Collins it might be a different story

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I based my opinion on something totally different than you did. As the British Royal Family (mainly the Queen) need to remain politically neutral, it is the same thing, to me at least, with commercial ventures. They do not want anything that could point to the fact that the BRF prefers something over another.

Case in example. The Boogity Awards for best hairstyle on TV is sponsored by Coca Cola. Meghan and Harry attend as she has gorgeous hair. It would be all to easy to spin it to mean that Harry, Prince of the UK prefers Coke over Pepsi.

We have seen William and Kate attend BAFTA events as William is president of BAFTA so who knows? Nothing much surprises me these days.
You are correct, and I maybe shouldn't have quoted you, though I absolutely agree with your point about the BRF needing to remain neutral.
With a plethora of cable channels, streaming services, You Tube, reality TV, etc., celebrities are now a dime a dozen and not all possess talent, unlike in the days of Grace Kelly and I hate to see royalty go down that road. I know QEII allowed cameras to film her family during private time 40 or so years ago, and I do not think she considered it a success.

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I know what you mean but I can't compare Monaco with UK. I don't know a lot about Monaco but I associate it with casinos, Hollywood celebrities etc if this is before or after Grace I don't know. Anyway I don't think it matters for Meghan. I have read a bit about how Grace missed her acting but Meghan is no where near Graces standing as an actor
Thank you for stating this much better than I did!
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Ah Yes, Samantha, the half sibling who, according to other family members, has seen Meghan precisely once since 1993. Taking another 45 degree turn I see, praise, bash, disrespect, praise, throw mud, bash.

As soon as Meghan becomes engaged to Harry all commercial endorsements by her, direct or indirect, will of course cease.

Do Meghan's considerable philanthropic activities, her skills at public speaking and ease when meeting and greeting others, count for nothing then in a role as a future Duchess.

Compared, of course, to her being a 'D-list celebrity' in a profession where there is incidentally approximately 95% unemployment at any one time, and she has been regularly employed in a TV series for over six seasons?

I noticed, by the way, people on Twitter (and Niraj Tanna on his page) linking the favourable car deals members of the BRF get with the firm with the polo match sponsored by Audi at which both William and Harry played a few days ago.
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I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend. 🤔
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.

We really don't know if the groom's brother cannot bring a plus one, since the model he is currently dating has a work assignment that day.

One of Pippa's friends denies that Pippa ever had the no ring policy.

A lot of what we've heard is just speculation by the press.
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I understand that a select few feel an actress marrying a royal brings down the royalness of it all. I would accept opinion as opposed to those who think Meghan isn't good enough because shes American. But I've started d to believe that once a ball gets rolling you can't stop it. You can't say one commoner, Kate, is better than another Megan. And at least the later has a successful career even if she is D list.
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