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Old 04-16-2017, 01:10 AM
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This is very much a possibility. If these two know where their relationship is headed, they could already have made the commitment to each other that they will marry. They're not going to publicly announce anything though until things behind the scene have already been worked out and planned. Not only Meghan's disassociation with her own various interests and her acting contract which she'll finish out but also, as the wedding is usually within a pretty short time period after the announcement of the engagement, a lot of the behind the scenes planning will already have been worked out.

Nothing happens overnight with the BRF and nothing is done without careful planning for anything that might arise. Things run like clockwork because every consideration is taken beforehand.
I have not been a big royal follower before Meghan and Harry, so I'm quite surprised by all the bts work there is going on. Harry's statement months ago gave a little glimpse of it, and the wedding paparazzi issues did too. And that's just dealing with the negative media aspects. To get to the 'publicly announcing engagement' level must take tons of time and work, that will never be seen by the public.
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:26 AM
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I doubt it would be in November as the BRF will be celebrating the Queen and Philip's 70th wedding anniversary in November at the Abbey.

Popularity is irrelevant to the size of the wedding. It is place in the line of succession. There is no way that the 5th in line to the throne can have a grander wedding than the 2nd in line so it won't be grander than William's and thus it won't be a State Wedding. The last wedding that was a State Occasion was Charles and Diana's and there is no way that their second son is going to have what their eldest one didn't.

What the rest of the world wants is irrelevant. It is what the British want and are prepared to pay for.

William is the heir and that is what makes his wedding the standard above which neither his brother or his cousins can go and the Queen and Charles won't allow that. They know the protocol.

I can easily see a wedding at St George's next year some time but I am not sold on this relationship as it is in short bursts here and there rather than a constant one. Having tried a long-distance relationship on two occasions I know this much - until one of them moves permanently to the other's country to see if they really want to make it work rather than just spending short periods of time together, effectively in holiday mode all the time, they aren't going anywhere.

Harry's relationships have all been intense with rumours of engagements etc going on for years at occasions before failing and I don't see this as being any different - yet.
Yes if she is closing down some of the "controversial" aspects of her public career, I can only hope it's because she's moving to London/UK for a few months to see if they can make it work (like W+K spent time in Wales etc) before getting formally engaged. I don't have anything against a wedding late this year or next but I also have experience of long distance relationships and always being in "honeymoon mode" when you see each other.

I could see Westminster Abbey, albeit with less fanfare, Andrew and Fergie had that (yes different times) I can also see a much lower key version at St Georges or hey if they want to go really wacky Cardiff or St. Davids.

If it happens, one thing is for sure, the US tabloid media will put the British tabloids to shame in how hysterical they go.
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:30 AM
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This is very much a possibility. If these two know where their relationship is headed, they could already have made the commitment to each other that they will marry. They're not going to publicly announce anything though until things behind the scene have already been worked out and planned. Not only Meghan's disassociation with her own various interests and her acting contract which she'll finish out but also, as the wedding is usually within a pretty short time period after the announcement of the engagement, a lot of the behind the scenes planning will already have been worked out.

Nothing happens overnight with the BRF and nothing is done without careful planning for anything that might arise. Things run like clockwork because every consideration is taken beforehand.
I agree - I believe they have some sort of agreement; if not an actual engagement - but nevertheless I do think there have been made promises made. In addition to shutting down her blog and ceasing this biz relationship, one of the last statements on her blog about over planning killing magic. Sounds as though she was getting exposed to the realities of her soon to be new life
Meghan Markle hints that ‘overplanning kills magic’ | Daily Mail Online

I expect an engagement to be announced July or early August (around her birthday and when the family is on vacation). With a wedding scheduled for early 2018. However - there is a chance Harry may want to fast track this engagement; so as to make her a part of the family sooner than later over the holidays and in that case i would see May/June engagement and October wedding - with her first public appearances at Trooping, Ascot, Garter etc (its a stretch, but with Harry, you never know)
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:32 AM
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Meghan Markle is class, kindness, style, generosity and inspiration personified. She was raised by both of her parents to embrace who she is and to embrace life, and also to create her own identity and not allow others to label her. She's a very together person.

I think in part Meghan gets her caring heart and kindness from her mother (who is a social worker and a yoga instructor). From her father, Meghan appears to have gained her interest in the acting profession. Meghan has mentioned being nurtured, supported and encouraged by both of her parents. Despite the fact that her parents divorced when she was very young, they remained on the same page about giving their daughter the best of everything, which breeds confidence and a sense of purpose. Meghan has got loads of both.

Meghan indicates that her parents share a love of antiques and that they would join together in taking her on vacations when she was growing up. So, apparently Meghan did not experience much angst as a child of divorce, unlike Diana, Princess of Wales, and indeed Princes Harry and William too. So kudos to Meghan's parents in that and in many other respects.

To the poster who mentioned Meghan's father's ancestry. I read that it's Dutch-Irish. Her mother's white ancestors may hail from England and/or Scotland, possibly Ireland. I'm sure we will find out in more detail once an engagement is announced.

As far as Meghan having ancestors who were slaves, if we go back far enough, we're likely to find that slavery and/or indentured servitude existed in quite a few families throughout the history of mankind. And we know how hard slaves worked and how much they had to overcome just to survive. It also pays to remember that all of the labels and divisions we bandy about casually are man-made separations, which have no bearing on the reality of human evolution. Interestingly, the wife of King George III (Sophie Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz) is said to have had African ancestry on her mother's side via Portuguese ancestors -- unsurprising since the Moors ruled Spain, Portugal and other parts of Europe in ancient times.

Back to Meghan. There's not a 'vulgar' bone in her body. So we should probably put that to rest and focus on Meghan and Harry. With the revelation that Meghan declined to renew her contract with Reitmans last December, it seems to me that there is a lot going on behind-the-scenes with preparations for an engagement and an eventual marriage. And, as other posters have speculated, Meghan & Harry appear to have already made a very serious commitment to each other privately.

I can't see any scenario where Meghan would be abruptly and completely giving up lucrative projects like her lifestyle blog and her contract with Reitmans if she and Harry were not planning on staying in their relationship for keeps. In other words, I'm betting Harry can hardly wait to put a ring on it!
Beautifully summarized, MaiaMia.
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Old 04-16-2017, 02:10 AM
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It is extremely low class to even bring up the topic of Meghan's ancestral relatives from as late as the 1850s in America, whom could have been slaves. What does that have to do with a woman who was born in 1982?

Nothing!

Is this how desperate people have become in trying to diminish this woman, her accomplishments, her existence? She'll be a Duchess in due time, and there's nothing, nothing you can say, or exaggerate that will change that. Nothing. She will be a member of the British Royal Family, and I'm so proud of her!
You're right when you say nothing as Meghan was born in 1981.

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Yes if she is closing down some of the "controversial" aspects of her public career, I can only hope it's because she's moving to London/UK for a few months to see if they can make it work (like W+K spent time in Wales etc) before getting formally engaged. I don't have anything against a wedding late this year or next but I also have experience of long distance relationships and always being in "honeymoon mode" when you see each other.

I could see Westminster Abbey, albeit with less fanfare, Andrew and Fergie had that (yes different times) I can also see a much lower key version at St Georges or hey if they want to go really wacky Cardiff or St. Davids.

If it happens, one thing is for sure, the US tabloid media will put the British tabloids to shame in how hysterical they go.
I sure hope they would reside full-time in the same country together for longer than a few months, I think it takes longer than that to get out of "honeymoon mode" as you call it. Once she wraps up her filming at the end of the year, and she moves to the UK without looking for new acting jobs, then that's when the clock will really start. I do think she been making warm-up steps for a more serious commitment. I just think it's part of a long plan, instead of fast approaching engagement.

Her apparent willingness must come as a relief to Harry. Chelsy and Cressida both came off as only having a begrudging interest in royal life, in many ways doomed to fail, now he seems to have a chance to go the whole way. Providing she doesn't second guess her decision once she's immersed in the UK and Harry full-time.

As for the tabloids, don't underestimate the UK ones, look no further than the hacking trial.
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Old 04-16-2017, 02:11 AM
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I don't get why making her own money is considered uncouth, since she's not an HRH and she doesn't have taxpayer funds keeping her in royal style. She has every right to make money if she can and she had every right to be married before she met Harry. No one should live the life of a nun in the event that a prince might come along and want to marry her. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how she lived her life before Harry came into it.
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:25 AM
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Agree 100%, AristoCat.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:03 AM
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Yes if she is closing down some of the "controversial" aspects of her public career, I can only hope it's because she's moving to London/UK for a few months to see if they can make it work (like W+K spent time in Wales etc) before getting formally engaged. I don't have anything against a wedding late this yearor next but I also have experience of long distance relationships and always being in "honeymoon mode" when you see each other.
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I don't get why making her own money is considered uncouth, since she's not an HRH and she doesn't have taxpayer funds keeping her in royal style. She has every right to make money if she can and she had every right to be married before she met Harry. No one should live the life of a nun in the event that a prince might come along and want to marry her. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how she lived her life before Harry came into it.
Well, taking everything with a "big "if", it appears there is perhaps some indication of 'speed' occurring in Meghan's public life. However, to refer to her lifestyle blog and contract with Reitmans as being "controversial aspects of her public career' beggars belief. We are in the 21st century and referring to ordinary "work" that the ordinary folk do for a living is somehow less than savoury and remember the word "actress" is no longer a polite euphemism for "lady of the night!".

As we have followed the 21st Century European royals grow up we have seen that they, just like many of their unroyal friends, have partied, had girlfriends/boyfriends and then lovers. No one was expecting William's marriage to entail a ritual virgin sacrifice but rather that he would marry the woman he had lived with for years and obviously loved. The same applies to Harry, as the years have passed we have all hoped he would find someone he could love and would love him back, even with the major drawback of his family circumstances.

To most of us, it seems that perhaps he has found that elusive lady and that unlike his brother, his dearest wish may come to fruition in a matter of months rather than years. If so, good luck and if not, well we can only hope.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:20 AM
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^Exactly; there's nothing wrong with how she makes her living and she has a right to try to move up economically and live her own life. The way some people go on, you would think that she had been trading favors for money! Her contract and blog are her right and I actually think a lifestyle blog is fun especially if you get freebies from grateful designers. Lots of people would do that if they had the guts to believe in themselves enough and frankly I do think there's a huge amount of ridiculous outrage. There isn't really anything controversial about her at all. A normal young woman living her version of the American dream.
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Old 04-16-2017, 06:48 AM
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I would love to have one example of any act by Meghan Markle that could be classified as vulgar.

That's what I'd like to know too. Lets what she makes up in they make up.

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I don't get why making her own money is considered uncouth, since she's not an HRH and she doesn't have taxpayer funds keeping her in royal style. She has every right to make money if she can and she had every right to be married before she met Harry. No one should live the life of a nun in the event that a prince might come along and want to marry her. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how she lived her life before Harry came into it.

Thank you so much!!!
I agree 100%. She doesn't need Harry's money and people still complain!
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:21 AM
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I now think there will probably be a wedding, and I am hoping it will be at Westminster Abbey.

St. George's is nice, but well, it's not the Abbey!
I'd like to see it happen this year, but more likely it will be in 2018.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:04 AM
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Military style wedding at Westminster-in November. Prince Harry will most likely be in military uniform. I can see him wearing a red uniform, an Army uniform. He won't be wearing a Navy uniform.

He could have a lavish, state wedding at St. Paul's like his dad in 1981. Remember, Harry is more popular than William worldwide. Harry has charisma, street smarts, and more attention than The Duke of Cambridge.

He'll want this wedding to be memorable, I see a state wedding. It's what Britain needs. It's what the world needs. Joy and Happiness.

Prince and Princess Henry will name their son, David, after himself and the country of Wales. Their son should be styled a HRH, Prince David of Wales.


Harry can only wear an army uniform because that's the only service branch he served in. The Blues and Royals, Harry's Regiment, I believe don't have a red uniform. The red uniform like William wore are the Guards Regiments and Harry doesn't have an association with any Guards units. Also any kids would not be of Wales. They would be of Harry's Dukedom location. He stops being Harry of Wales when he becomes his own Duke like his brother did. William's children will become of Wales in time when William becomes Prince of Wales. Harry's kids will remain of Dukedom like the York girls.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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That's what I'd like to know too. Lets what she makes up in they make up.

Thank you so much!!! I agree 100%. She doesn't need Harry's money and people still complain!

I don't get why getting perks for doing write-ups or mentions is such a bad thing. If she wants freebies and she wants perks, more power to her. People make a living and how they do htat is their business. There's no controversy at all. People are just making things up because they want a drama and they want to find something to complain about. Meg doesn't owe anyone anything and I for one am sick and tired of how a potential consort is supposed to have all the virtues of a saint and no self-interest.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:27 AM
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It's interesting to me that people keeps bringing up ancestry to bring down Meghan. What we should be talking more about is that this is the first self made millionaire to marry into this family if she indeed does marry Harry. Indeed, she would also be the first self made millionaire of the bunch as well, isn't it? So instead of trying to knock the girl down for something she can't control, this really is an impressive thing. And as someone already mentioned if she does marry Harry, she'll be near the top of the class food chain. She'll outrank those high society that some are claim could shun her.
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Any pic of him or his security team near her house or that's just a gossip or some old pics stating he is there?

Reitman collection was awful, God forbid someone wears faux leather and depressed gray shirts...

Something is happening to her, she looks worn and her hair os not nice as it ises to be.. break up maybe?
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:43 AM
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Any pic of him or his security team near her house or that's just a gossip or some old pics stating he is there?

Reitman collection was awful, God forbid someone wears faux leather and depressed gray shirts...

Something is happening to her, she looks worn and her hair os not nice as it ises to be.. break up maybe?
Wishful thinking more likely

And if we had pictures of his security detail, you'd claim that as old as you did with the pics of Harry. The fact that he's not at the Easter Service was telling, don't you think?
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Wishful thinking more likely

And if we had pictures of his security detail, you'd claim that as old as you did with the pics of Harry. The fact that he's not at the Easter Service was telling, don't you think?
But someone would notice vans, right? So we have to belive her only? We know where os the Quenn all the time...

I bet he is with Chelsy, he liked her ig posts during his "visit" to Meghan, boring visit
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:49 AM
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Harry not being at Windsor for Easter doesn't mean anything. He hasn't attended Easter at Windsor since he was a child.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:52 AM
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But someone would notice vans, right? So we have to belive her only? We know where os the Quenn all the time...

I bet he is with Chelsy, he liked her ig posts during his "visit" to Meghan, boring visit
She hasn't said anything. So believe her on what. Literally, the woman has said less about this relationship than Harry, but this is all on her. That's what I find hilarious. We know where the Queen is at all time because she is the monarch. We don't even know where William and Charles are at all times if it's their personal time. That's because they, along with Harry, has personal time and doesn't report to us. We are finding out this the same way we found out about William's Verbier trip. From the paparazzi and tabloids.
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Harry not being at Windsor for Easter doesn't mean anything. He hasn't attended Easter at Windsor since he was a child.
Pretty positive he's in Toronto.


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