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Old 04-11-2017, 03:11 PM
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Mmmm, I might take that bet too. What odds are you offering ?
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:19 PM
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I talking to a disabled veteran in a wheelchair. He is distinguishably solemn and proper laying one of the final boots at the Vimy Ridge memorial. He's also a very open person and when he says something, he's saying exactly what he means. He's consistent in his interviews about his hopes for the future and what he wants out of his life. As the sources say, he very much does want marriage and family *but* he also says that it also means finding the right woman. That is a big part of it all. He wants the full monty when it comes to commitment.

Whomever the woman that walks down the aisle with him and whenever it happens has yet to be. I cannot think of one really good reason that either HM, The Queen or Harry's family would be "dubious" about accepting Ms. Markle into their family. make.

Of course I'd rather have a royal wedding sooner than later but that is being a bit self serving and that's OK too.
its not just Harry's choice. he has to marry someone that the RF accept as suitable. if he were further down the line, it wouldn't matter so much.. if he were the son of Andrew or Edward.. but he's Charles' son. he's a senior royal now and has givene up his army job to do full time royal duties. so his wife is gong to have to be by his side and doing them too.
And I thin that Meghan has too many issues, being American, different culture, career woman (actress ie tending to try to attract publicity for herself, it si the nature of her work.. and it s not a job she could do after marriage). She's also divorced, and she and H haven't been together all that long. So I think the Queen would be dubious unless she and H had proved their attachment by a close relationship for a few years..and she gave up acting and concentrated on something more low key.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:36 PM
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We'll just have to watch and see how things play out.

I don't think HM would object to an American as Harry's wife at all. If she can approve Charles' choice of Camilla who is also divorced and name her to her Privy Counsel and award her the GCVO, there's no problem with divorce. Culture? She's had Toronto, Canada as her home base for quite a while and we all know HM has quite a fondness for Canada. Acting? I'm sure that Ms. Markle is astute enough to know that taking on the role of being Harry's wife and all it involves and by accepting a proposal from Harry, it would also mean ending a successful acting career and moving onto another stage (literally) by his side.

The only other objection I can possibly think of that you would mean we don't even bother to discuss here and to be honest, I don't think that would, for a moment, cross HM's mind or any of the Royal Family's. Its only the Queen's permission that is needed to marry and to be honest, in Harry's case, I see it as mostly being a formality because that is how things have been done for a very, very long time.

So we wait and we watch and see what happens. Makes for interesting times.
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:57 PM
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I was thinking....Meghan Markle was born Rachel Meghan Markle.

Does anyone think that IF they were to wed we would see her first name used?

Duchess Rachel of Sussex sounds a lot more regal than a Duchess Meghan of Sussex.

Also, Rachel would be used best as a way to separate and distinguish. Meghan was the actress and Rachel is the princess/duchess.

Any thoughts?
How funny is it that Meghan is really Rachel and Harry is actually Henry.
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:02 PM
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I believe that if Meghan has most likely opted to use the name Meghan rather than Rachel, it will be what she goes by should she marry Harry. Same thing as Prince Henry of Wales is called Prince Harry.

However, should there be a wedding, I would bet my last Smurf gummie that the vows will contain their full names Henry Charles Albert David and Rachel Meghan Markle.
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:22 PM
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I hardly think the fact that Meghan is an actress will be a concern at all. The BRF has had it's own share of actors in the family. If the Queen's children could stick their toe into those waters then I can hardly think that could be held against Meghan. She's not a porn star...just a (before this) little known actress.

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I believe that if Meghan has most likely opted to use the name Meghan rather than Rachel, it will be what she goes by should she marry Harry. Same thing as Prince Henry of Wales is called Prince Harry.

However, should there be a wedding, I would bet my last Smurf gummie that the vows will contain their full names Henry Charles Albert David and Rachel Meghan Markle.

I go by my middle name. The only time you hear my first name is if it's a business matter since they don't know to refer to me by the name I use in everyday life.

I could see during a wedding or some sort of official business Meghan being referred to as Rachel Meghan XYZ ...but past that she'll be Meghan.


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Old 04-11-2017, 09:13 PM
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I believe that if Meghan has most likely opted to use the name Meghan rather than Rachel, it will be what she goes by should she marry Harry. Same thing as Prince Henry of Wales is called Prince Harry.



However, should there be a wedding, I would bet my last Smurf gummie that the vows will contain their full names Henry Charles Albert David and Rachel Meghan Markle.


When William and Kate said their vows it was as William Arthur Philip Louis and Catherine Elizabeth. So Harry and Meghan would probably be Henry Charles Albert David and Rachel Meghan.

That said, it looks like Meghan might not have started going by "Meghan" until some point in high school - the earlier yearbook photos that were released were for "Rachel Markle". "Meghan" might just be what she uses publicly...

Not that it matters - Rachel, Princess Henry of Wales, Duchess of Sussex... we all know that if she and Harry marry the press will continue referring to her as Meghan Marlee (and we'll continue complaining about it) until the day she dies.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:18 PM
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Yes they will call her Meghan because its well known just as Catherine is still called Kate Middleton for some reason??!! can't they just call her Princess Kate like they did Diana?
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:41 PM
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When William and Kate said their vows it was as William Arthur Philip Louis and Catherine Elizabeth. So Harry and Meghan would probably be Henry Charles Albert David and Rachel Meghan.

That said, it looks like Meghan might not have started going by "Meghan" until some point in high school - the earlier yearbook photos that were released were for "Rachel Markle". "Meghan" might just be what she uses publicly...

Not that it matters - Rachel, Princess Henry of Wales, Duchess of Sussex... we all know that if she and Harry marry the press will continue referring to her as Meghan Marlee (and we'll continue complaining about it) until the day she dies.
A lot of yearbooks used name of record. Some school allows preferred name. But I'm pretty sure she goes by Meghan privately. She's discussed her nicknames that her friends call her, which includes Meg, Nutmeg and so on.
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Old 04-11-2017, 10:51 PM
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Yes, and Meghan has said that her mother's nickname for her is 'Flower.'

From CafeMom, a slideshow, "15 Ways Meghan Markle Would've Won Princess Diana's Heart"

15 Ways Meghan Markle Would've Won Princess Diana's Heart | CafeMom

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Old 04-11-2017, 11:00 PM
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At the wedding she would be Rachel Meghan as that is her name.

After that she would HRH Princess Henry, Duchess of X. She won't have to choose what to go by. She will lose any right to her first name unless she divorces. This isn't the continent where royal brides are made princesses in their own right and get called by it. She will never be Princess Meghan/Rachel. And even if she was allowed to use her name, it wouldn't be Duchess Meghan, but Princess Meghan, Duchess X.

The media is another matter. The real media will call her Duchess of X. The daily fail and other paps will call her Duchess Meghan, Princess Meghan, Meghan Markle. Combination of being lazy or thinking readers are. And getting hits. Like Kate, Kate Middleton gets more hits then Duchess of Cambridge.

At home we will never know. Likely Meghan. If she has gone her middle name for years, not likely her husband, friends and family will suddenly change.
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Old 04-11-2017, 11:06 PM
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I just read this on a slideshow: "Of course Diana would want her son's wives to be close. We hear that Markle met Kate Middleton and her adorable daughter, Princess Charlotte, and the three got along very well." Is this true?
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Old 04-11-2017, 11:10 PM
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I just read this on a slideshow: "Of course Diana would want her son's wives to be close. We hear that Markle met Kate Middleton and her adorable daughter, Princess Charlotte, and the three got along very well." Is this true?
Depends if you believe the daily fail or not. Goes back to a story in January where they supposedly met and Meghan gave her a dream journal.


Kate Middleton met with Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle after royal introduced her | Daily Mail Online
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Old 04-11-2017, 11:46 PM
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Depends if you believe the daily fail or not. Goes back to a story in January where they supposedly met and Meghan gave her a dream journal.


Kate Middleton met with Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle after royal introduced her | Daily Mail Online
Actually I believe this story first came out of The Sun. Emily Andrews originally wrote it.
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Old 04-12-2017, 04:27 AM
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Well in a world that is such a mess right now, their love story is a happy thing. Let's wish them the best and every happiness
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:01 AM
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We'll just have to watch and see how things play out.

I don't think HM would object to an American as Harry's wife at all. If she can approve Charles' choice of Camilla who is also divorced and name her to her Privy Counsel and award her the GCVO, there's no problem with divorce. Culture?
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So we wait and we watch and see what happens. Makes for interesting times.
Its not a case of objecting to an American per se, or liking or not liking Canada. its the fact that she would not have much knowledge of the Uk... and might not be that popular with the publc. As for "divorce not being an issue" it IS, as I'm sure you know. The queen only sanctioned the marriage to Camilla when it was obvious that charles would not give her up and she'd been linked with him for so long that he relaly had to marry her. On a personal level I think she's grown fond of Cam and thinks she's doig a good job.. but Camilla still took ages to be accepted by the public and if she has that strike against her of being divorced, she still has most otherthings going for her. She's upper class, she' knows the RF, she's a country woman, and englsih. Megan has numerous strikes against her.
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Old 04-12-2017, 06:31 AM
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Its not a case of objecting to an American per se, or liking or not liking Canada. its the fact that she would not have much knowledge of the Uk... and might not be that popular with the publc. As for "divorce not being an issue" it IS, as I'm sure you know. The queen only sanctioned the marriage to Camilla when it was obvious that charles would not give her up and she'd been linked with him for so long that he relaly had to marry her. On a personal level I think she's grown fond of Cam and thinks she's doig a good job.. but Camilla still took ages to be accepted by the public and if she has that strike against her of being divorced, she still has most otherthings going for her. She's upper class, she' knows the RF, she's a country woman, and englsih. Megan has numerous strikes against her.
I don't think her nationality or her being a foreign bride was is an issue.
CP Mary and Queen Máxima are foreigners and through time they have captured the hearts of their respective countries. Also, media articles in the UK are generally very favorable concerning Meghan so I don't think she will have an issue winning over the British public.

I don't believe her divorce is an issue. All but one of the Queen's children are divorced. I believe she genuinely cares for her Harry's happiness so I doubt she would object to him marrying Meghan.
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William waited 9 years to marry Kate. To be certain she was --The one. I can't see Harry rushing any girl down the isle. If Meghan is --The One -- for him I am sure he will take his time getting to know her better. Not 9 years obviously, but a year or two at least. And for that she would have to at least live in the same country as him.
I am sure Harry is mature enough to want to get to know a girl first before marriage. And that can take awhile. Especially when both live very busy lives.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:53 AM
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Even if they do get engaged in 2017, they will spend Christmas 2017 apart unless they are married before then, which I highly doubt.
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So in my very humble opinion, its looks to be post-September, post IG before anything significant could happen. So yes by end of 2017, IMO
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:54 AM
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Their busy lives and this relationship being a long distance one is working to their advantage. Its been a lot of back and forth so far, essentially keeping their lives private and testing the waters with each other. Meghan has commitments to a TV show and I don't see anything major happening in the relationship until she is free and clear of that to make any changes to her life and lifestyle. So time is on their side for now which allows them to be cautious and take baby steps and be sure of each other before any total commitment is made.

Wise and mature moves if you ask me.
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