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Old 02-17-2017, 03:32 AM
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http://www.gossipcop.com/meghan-markle-move-in-prince-harry-living-together/
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:06 AM
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While people adore Harry for his down to earth grace and his support and love for his charities....when it comes to her... I am not so sure. Hollywood with Grace Kelly - born and bred Main Line family - compared to this person in of today's Hollywood... I predict it will not go down well or end well.

Catherine, Camilla and Diana all come from Great Britain, they grew up in this culture.

This person with her attitude on her social media not too long ago would need to shut up and conform right away as the British press would eat her alive. The aristocracy, long known for proving blood and breeding count, not celebrity and money, aka the Beckhams would probably turn their noses on this person. Her family, to say the least, is interesting....

We shall see what happens. As I said before, should he marry this person I will choose not to watch and will ignore them and focus on the rest of the family in my adoration.

My right to my view and opinion.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:23 AM
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I'm not a British royals historian but it would be interesting if somebody could compile a list of British princes in history who've had acknowledged and or rumored affairs with stage and screen actors, and opera singers. I'm sure it's a long list. Harry is the latest in that line but with the difference of him being born in an age where a Prince marrying an actor is possible.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:35 AM
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While people adore Harry for his down to earth grace and his support and love for his charities....when it comes to her... I am not so sure. Hollywood with Grace Kelly - born and bred Main Line family - compared to this person in of today's Hollywood... I predict it will not go down well or end well.

Catherine, Camilla and Diana all come from Great Britain, they grew up in this culture.

This person with her attitude on her social media not too long ago would need to shut up and conform right away as the British press would eat her alive. The aristocracy, long known for proving blood and breeding count, not celebrity and money, aka the Beckhams would probably turn their noses on this person. Her family, to say the least, is interesting....

We shall see what happens. As I said before, should he marry this person I will choose not to watch and will ignore them and focus on the rest of the family in my adoration.

My right to my view and opinion.
Well in all fairness Catherine too has some guilty family members.
Even Diana though born and bred aristocracy was guilty of celebrity-like behavior.
The failed Windsor marriages that ended in divorce are proof that a woman's background and culture does not guarantee a happy and successful marriage.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:43 AM
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Stop looking for perfect princesses and perfect in laws for an imperfect royal family. It makes no sense.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:55 AM
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Well, a lot of people will be upset when Harry marries Meghan, but a lot more will be very happy for the couple. For those who don't want to watch the festivities, that is fine as tens of millions of people will, and I will be one of them.

It's my belief that Meghan has been prepped for the potential next step and it's evident in her change of tone in posting on her personal twitter and Instagram accounts, as well as The Tig. For a woman who is a Hollywood celebrity, she has been respectful and low keyed since the story of her romance with the Prince has broken. I respect that Meghan has not flaunted herself, and has managed this new attention with dignity, especially in light of the unprecedented harsh attitude towards her because of her mixed parentage, being American, and a TV actress. Such a shame in 2016-17, but not a shock.

In the end, she will prevail and all things are pointing in the direction that she'll become a permanent member of the BRF in due time.

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Old 02-17-2017, 11:20 AM
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i totally agree with your posts Dman and royaldreams!
I just read an article at the Guardian UK website that describes "how the monarchy learned to love social media". It goes on to describe how the Senior members of the Royal Family "have been quick to realise the power of social media to boost popularity". So who knows perhaps the RF are impressed with what Meghan has done using social media with her resources, considering the RF is looking to fill a job for a social media position.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:31 AM
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Stop looking for perfect princesses and perfect in laws for an imperfect royal family. It makes no sense.
This so much.

At this day and age, Harry will be lucky, if he gets a woman like Meghan to marry him. Many would be put off by the 24/7 security already, or the 'The royals are public property' attitude surprisingly many peoole have. Meghan or any woman with any kind of career will have to give that up. A few questionable relatives she hasn't been in contact with in years are a very small negative in Meghan's book, when you look ate all the changes she's have to do in her life.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:34 PM
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I think this relationship seems right in many ways, and I hope it turns out to be a real happily ever after story. I do think they'll have to deal with some racism on the part of the public...
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:40 PM
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I hope so too.

For me, the public opinion on whether she is right for Harry or not doesn't mean a hill of beans as what really matters is if they both think they're right for each other. If they have a strong, loving relationship, there is nothing that the two of them can't face together.

We just sit on the sidelines and watch.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:42 PM
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I couldn't agree more. Especially where Prince Harry is concerned, if he really found the right woman, those in the public, (i.e., mere commoners), have no say in who he marries. As long as they both are happy and in love and support each other, that's all that matters.

It's a sad state for anyone to be in who doesn't support LOVE.



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I hope so too.

For me, the public opinion on whether she is right for Harry or not doesn't mean a hill of beans as what really matters is if they both think they're right for each other. If they have a strong, loving relationship, there is nothing that the two of them can't face together.

We just sit on the sidelines and watch.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:51 PM
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Harry has the right to choose the life partner that is right for him, not right for the media or for the RF or for the public. Whoever that person is does not have to met some arbitrary checklist made up by the public.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:04 PM
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Harry has the right to choose the life partner that is right for him, not right for the media or for the RF or for the public. Whoever that person is does not have to met some arbitrary checklist made up by the public.
No, but the marriage has to be approved by the Queen and the British government (at least as long as Harry is one of the first six persons in line to the throne; he is currently 5th). The government, being made of politicians, most certainly takes public opinion into consideration, and so does the Queen to a certain extent.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:19 PM
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Succession to the Crown Act 2013 states its the consent of Her Majesty that is required.

Once consent has been obtained, it must be declared in council under the great seal.

In this case, The Privy Council justs rubber stamps The Queen's approval.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:29 PM
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Succession to the Crown Act 2013 states its the consent of Her Majesty that is required.

Once consent has been obtained, it must be declared in council under the great seal.

In this case, The Privy Council justs rubber stamps The Queen's approval.
My interpretation of "consent declared in Council" is that the Privy Council must agree to it. It is the same as the consent given in a Council of State in Denmark (or in Sweden prior to 1980). In both cases, it was understood that the monarch must consult the council.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:34 PM
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I do agree that the Queen's consent and stamped with approval by the Privy Counsel will be necessary. Its the way things are done and will not be bypassed.

Does anyone really think that there would be any reason why HM, The Queen and her Privy Council would have any objections to Meghan should he wish to marry her? As his grandmother, I think HM would want to put his happiness first and foremost when granting approval.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:37 PM
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My takes is, its The Queen's personal consent that is required. She then declares her consent to The Privy Council.

Consent of Sovereign required to certain Royal Marriages

A person who (when the person marries) is one of the 6 persons next in the line of succession to the Crown must obtain the consent of Her Majesty before marrying.

Where any such consent has been obtained, it must be—

(a) signified under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom,

(b) declared in Council, and

(c) recorded in the books of the Privy Council.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:42 PM
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As I understand it, I believe that Prince Harry is the Queen's favorite grandchild, and perhaps she is very happy that at the moment, he appears to have found the perfect girl. The Queen won't be around forever, so I presume that she will give her approval this year at the time that is most appropriate for all.

I can't imagine after all this fanfare, that Meghan is not the one and they split up. I can't see this happening, it's going all the way, regardless if some like it or not.


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I do agree that the Queen's consent and stamped with approval by the Privy Counsel will be necessary. Its the way things are done and will not be bypassed.

Does anyone really think that there would be any reason why HM, The Queen and her Privy Council would have any objections to Meghan should he wish to marry her? As his grandmother, I think HM would want to put his happiness first and foremost when granting approval.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:48 PM
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All her grandchildren have been said, at some point or another, have been her 'favorite' grandchild. The media changes who depending on what's happening.


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Old 02-17-2017, 03:00 PM
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All her grandchildren have been said, at some point or another, have been her 'favorite' grandchild. The media changes who depending on what's happening.


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One thing we do know though is that Harry is very, very good at soft soaping his grandmother into things. I loved the video they made for the Invictus games with the Obamas and just recently he's talked her into opening the private grounds of Balmoral for Balmoral Challenge 2017 benefiting Walking with the Wounded.

I think that if the Queen saw and knew how much in love Harry was and met his future bride, she'd give her consent in a Buckingham Palace minute*.

*(similar to a New York minute with a British royal flair to it)
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