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Old 01-25-2017, 09:52 AM
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People do know that actors/celebs get paid to be ambassadors for UN, UNICEF, ETC right? Its another part of the job
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:58 AM
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Yes. So do royals, as part of their job. However, it's how they do the job that count. And if Meghan becomes a Royal all this experience will help. She is clearly valued by World Vision Canada, and enjoys the challenge.
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:01 AM
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After reading the article in US Weekly about Meghan's work with World Vision, I have to admit that until now, I had not realized the extent that young girls in the poorer sections of India needed focus on for a reason most of us females just take for granted as a normal human function. The article puts into very clear context what Meghan is striving to do without severely going off tangents about her relationship with Harry. In fact, it was treated more or less as a side note.

I do kind of get the impression that Meghan is a woman that is very dedicated to what she believes in and her aims are totally altruistic to make a difference in the lives of those that she aspires to reach and educate and support. It matches, for me, the passion and the dedication and the desire that Harry has to make differences in the lives that he touches and reaches out to. I can only imagine what these two people together would be like working on the world stage together as a team.

Although taken at different places at different times and most likely before they even met each other, seeing Meghan in a photo with the children in Rwanda and then remembering pictures of Harry with the children in Lesotho, I had to think that perhaps the two photos were a bit of a sense of deja vu. Two people with the same aims for a better and healthier life for children who were perhaps destined to meet up with each other to form a dynamic team on a world stage that will reach thousands if not millions of people to promote their causes and concerns is perhaps something meant to be.

This puts to rest too any concerns I would have that Meghan would put her acting career before a loving marriage and a world stage to promote the pressing needs that need to be addressed. Her character, to me, seems to be more of an altruistic nature to make a difference rather than success in an acting career for herself and fame and fortune. Harry has found himself a real gem of a woman who is not only extremely beautiful on the outside but also on the inside. Actions (and not the lights, camera, action type) speak much louder than words.

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People do know that actors/celebs get paid to be ambassadors for UN, UNICEF, ETC right? Its another part of the job
I would imagine that the expenses (travel fare, lodging and food) would be paid by World Vision itself but I'm just guessing that they would not be "paid" for their time and energies as in a paycheck for going and Meghan would be classified as a volunteer for the organization.

Doing a little bit of digging, I did find out exactly what an ambassador for World Vision is and its not only celebs and actors/actresses but everyday people such as you and I are that could aspire to also be an ambassador. I think our own Countessmeout has attested to that fact before and I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong.

http://www.worldvision.org.uk/get-in...me-ambassador/
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:07 AM
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After reading the article in US Weekly about Meghan's work with World Vision, I have to admit that until now, I had not realized the extent that young girls in the poorer sections of India needed focus on for a reason most of us females just take for granted as a normal human function. The article puts into very clear context what Meghan is striving to do without severely going off tangents about her relationship with Harry. In fact, it was treated more or less as a side note.

I do kind of get the impression that Meghan is a woman that is very dedicated to what she believes in and her aims are totally altruistic to make a difference in the lives of those that she aspires to reach and educate and support. It matches, for me, the passion and the dedication and the desire that Harry has to make differences in the lives that he touches and reaches out to. I can only imagine what these two people together would be like working on the world stage together as a team.

Although taken at different places at different times and most likely before they even met each other, seeing Meghan in a photo with the children in Rwanda and then remembering pictures of Harry with the children in Lesotho, I had to think that perhaps the two photos were a bit of a sense of deja vu. Two people with the same aims for a better and healthier life for children who were perhaps destined to meet up with each other to form a dynamic team on a world stage that will reach thousands if not millions of people to promote their causes and concerns is perhaps something meant to be.

This puts to rest too any concerns I would have that Meghan would put her acting career before a loving marriage and a world stage to promote the pressing needs that need to be addressed. Her character, to me, seems to be more of an altruistic nature to make a difference rather than success in an acting career for herself and fame and fortune. Harry has found himself a real gem of a woman who is not only extremely beautiful on the outside but also on the inside. Actions (and not the lights, camera, action type) speak much louder than words.
Great comment and I agree.
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:22 AM
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Just because I can.

These two photographs are representatives of what I'd call deja vu

http://newswire.co.ls/wp-content/upl...o-620x330.jpeg

http://artistcollective.ca/wp-conten...arkle_hero.jpg
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:28 AM
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Is it ever justified to pay a famous person to support or promote a charity's cause? Celebrity agents are happy to say that it is justified and that it does happen, but charities are more reluctant to be drawn on the issue.

An exception is World Vision, which says that it rewards its 'artist ambassadors'. The international children's charity has paid £28,000 to Sadie and the Hotheads, a folk-rock band fronted by the Downton Abbey actor Elizabeth McGovern, for their "time and resources" involved in promoting the charity at their concerts.
Paying celebrities - where do charities draw the line? | Third Sector
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” In addition, World Vision has paid her band £28,000 to fund the recording of their latest album and a UK tour, in return for which they have agreed to promote the charity.
The good causes of the famous ‘benefit themselves more than the charities’ | The Independent
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:40 AM
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You've made some good points Miche and I'm not discrediting them one bit. I did notice that the $28,000 from World Vision to the band though were precisely stating it was to cover expenses for recording and the subsequent UK tour. It doesn't state how much the band actually profited from this endeavor.

There are most certainly charities and organizations that spokespeople can and do make money off of but I don't believe this is the rule of thumb. Harry and Meghan both seem (notice I said seem) to be doing what they do because of a passion to make a difference rather than to make a profit. Not everyone is like that. Harry's endeavors such as with Lesotho and his conservation work in Africa and becoming an "ambassador" for United for Wildlife doesn't put money into his pocket but it would be silly to presume that organizations would not do what they could to alleviate the expenses that occur to be able to do the things he does.

Debating whether or not Meghan was paid for profit would go around and around as we have no real facts of how Meghan's expenses were handled for her trip to India and also, it'd take the thread off topic. Is it so really hard to believe that someone would do something out of the goodness of their heart?
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:03 PM
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Okay we will leave the financial part along.
Yeah its hard to believe that some people do it from the goodness of their heart. Royals do it because let face it its part of their job descriptions in the world they live in today.
And when it comes to the celebs world, some celebs are able to do charity behind the scene without the publicity and writing blogs about it. So when a celebs get promote for the charity that they do with the photoshoot and all. Its a public image exercise for both the charity organization and the celeb.
Its something Hollywood and organizations have been doing for decades, its a business model. Call me cynical but I don't believe "the out of the goodness of their heart"
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:12 PM
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Okay we will leave the financial part along.
Yeah its hard to believe that some people do it from the goodness of their heart. Royals do it because let face it its part of their job descriptions in the world they live in today.
And when it comes to the celebs world, some celebs are able to do charity behind the scene without the publicity and writing blogs about it. So when a celebs get promote for the charity that they do with the photoshoot and all. Its a public image exercise for both the charity organization and the celeb.
Its something Hollywood and organizations have been doing for decades, its a business model. Call me cynical but I don't believe "the out of the goodness of their heart"
In the end it helps amplify certain issues. So is there any harm done? I don't put anyone on a pedestal not even Prince Harry or even Princess Diana but when something positive happens, I call it a positive.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:30 PM
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Okay we will leave the financial part along.
Yeah its hard to believe that some people do it from the goodness of their heart. Royals do it because let face it its part of their job descriptions in the world they live in today.
And when it comes to the celebs world, some celebs are able to do charity behind the scene without the publicity and writing blogs about it. So when a celebs get promote for the charity that they do with the photoshoot and all. Its a public image exercise for both the charity organization and the celeb.
Its something Hollywood and organizations have been doing for decades, its a business model. Call me cynical but I don't believe "the out of the goodness of their heart"
Does it really matter? If someone does charity work, and gets good PR
for ir, it doesn't take away from the fact, that the charity benefits as well, and that's what counts in the end of the day. Charities benefit greatly from the PR celebs bring them, why is it so wrong if it brings good PR for the celeb too? I highly doubt that the monetary benefits are that big, that it would be benefiting the celebs, it's mostly covering some costs for the celeb doing the charity.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:43 PM
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Does it really matter? If someone does charity work, and gets good PR
for ir, it doesn't take away from the fact, that the charity benefits as well, and that's what counts in the end of the day. Charities benefit greatly from the PR celebs bring them, why is it so wrong if it brings good PR for the celeb too? I highly doubt that the monetary benefits are that big, that it would be benefiting the celebs, it's mostly covering some costs for the celeb doing the charity.
Honestly why must we hide our good works. We should normalize charity, normalize helping others, publicize it often instead of hiding it because of false modesty. So much bad stuff going on, I see nothing wrong with reporting on the good. I actually learned something from Meghan's trip about how important hygiene is for poorer nations and in fact also in America as well. So IMHO the publicity regarding the trip was successful.
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:40 PM
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Even the sainted Mother Teresa received criticism for some of the things she did which seemed to benefit herself and her staff. Being cynical and skeptical about everything leaves little room for belief in goodness in our world.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:11 PM
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Cynicism is all well and good and in the unsafe world we live in today, its wise to be alert and question things.

For me though, after having followed Harry for quite a few years and just seeing how open and passionate he is when it comes to whatever it is he is involved with such as Sentebale and Walking with the Wounded, I cannot imagine him being any less passionate or open when it comes to finding someone that is a good fit for him. I think too that it wouldn't take Harry long to sniff out an imposter pretending to care and do good works for their own personal gains.

Over the years Harry has had to met a multitude of people he knows are just "kissing up" to him or trying to impress him and when someone comes along that is authentic and real and sees Harry the person, that he'll hold onto as something rare in the world he moves in.
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People do know that actors/celebs get paid to be ambassadors for UN, UNICEF, ETC right? Its another part of the job
I do not think so, coverage of travell expenses, per diems, visa expenses maybe lecturing... depends of the country legislation and overall policy...

Her potential married life with Harry is basically predetermined and she will have no saying in many areas, businesses wise especially. She wil never be allowed to outshine Kate or to work more or to maybe be involved in charities she likes because maybe Kate will be interested dor that area... if she is so energetic as you say so, no whay she will sit at home and does nothing 90% of the time and Harry would not be able to help her ...
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Old 01-25-2017, 04:18 PM
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I really think that should it come to the point that there is a marriage, I would also believe that Harry and his wife would not only get along good with William and Kate and there would be good communications between them even to the point of them working together on common issues but with separate engagements. As time passes, its a given that William and Kate would have a more dominant role as the Prince and Princess of Wales (should Charles created William as such) but I don't feel that in any way they would want Harry and his wife to feel subservient or subjective to them.

Like Kate, Harry's wife will be given the opportunity to find out just where she wants to fit into the scheme of things and also be given the time to adjust to not only being a member of the royal family but to also adjust to marriage and perhaps start their own family.

I don't think the British royal family and the "Firm" are as autocratic as you paint them out to be.
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I'm thinking there are enough causes and charities to spare, plenty to do and be involved in. The US Weekly link said, that Meghan likes to get really informed, prepare etc, not just show up, so that would keep her busy.

And like Osipi said, I'm thinking they'd work as a team, it wouldn't be a competition.
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:48 PM
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People do know that actors/celebs get paid to be ambassadors for UN, UNICEF, ETC right? Its another part of the job
Really? Goodness and here I thought it was donating time for a worthy cause. I should've known better.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:55 PM
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You all,

Harry will not lose his title or his place in line for the throne. Where are you getting this stuff?

If that were the case, I doubt Harry would have pursued a relationship with Meghan if that were the case at 32 years old. At his age Harry is thinking about getting married and starting a family. And I doubt he would be with Meghan at this point in his life if marriage was not on his mind and long before now in fact.

I highly doubt Charles has any issues with Harry dating or marrying Meghan if that is what he wants. And too, Charles is no place to make any judgments on Meghan considering his past, track record, and who and what he is currently married to.

I think many of you just don't want to accept that Harry is in deep in a very serious relationship with Meghan Markle. He is in deeper in this relationship than any other relationship he has had including that with C. Davy because Meghan has more than that her or any of the others.

I think this is headed marriage so you might as well prepare yourselves.
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:07 PM
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Actually we have no clue whatsoever how "deep" the relationship is or where it is headed. It could be a "lets get together when we both have time" kind of thing or any number of different definitions we could put on relationships.

We are also not Harry so we cannot measure one relationship against another and the feelings and emotions that went and go with them.

What is seemed to be is that a lot of people are assuming that a+b=c when there's only a mathematical hypothesis.

Until either Meghan or Harry deem fit to fill us in on what is going on, we need to stay away from assuming things.
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Actually we have no clue whatsoever how "deep" the relationship is or where it is headed. It could be a "lets get together when we both have time" kind of thing or any number of different definitions we could put on relationships.

We are also not Harry so we cannot measure one relationship against another and the feelings and emotions that went and go with them.

What is seemed to be is that a lot of people are assuming that a+b=c when there's only a mathematical hypothesis.

Until either Meghan or Harry deem fit to fill us in on what is going on, we need to stay away from assuming things.
Uhh, this is an entire thread literally dedicated to assumptions, speculation, etc. What do you expect?

Further, my opinion is that we have indeed been shown that this is a serious relationship. The royals don't make public press statements for casual flings.
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