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Old 01-16-2017, 08:58 AM
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Somebody had to talk about Meghan meets Kate and Charlotte. Emily Andrews even knew that Meghan bought Kate a dream journal or the story is completely made up.
We have to careful when reading these stories. One day it's Catherine and Meghan meeting and having a good time, and the next it could be Catherine and Meghan have a falling out.

There's very little known about this relationship and the lack of photos are driving the media crazy. They've been waiting too long for Harry to be in a relationship for it to be this quiet.

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Catherine is held accountable for a 'stripper cousin' she has never even met before. Relatives are either fair game or they're not. But there shouldn't be two standards.

Harry would never in a million years leak anything about Catherine or Charlotte to the tabloids. If the story is true, someone in Meghan's camp is name dropping.
Catherine wasn't held accountable by William and rest of the family for the actions of her cousin. It's the media and folks online that hold the Royal girlfriends accountable for the actions of their extended family members. That's the wrong thing to do.

Imagine what would've happened to the Cambridge relationship if Catherine was held responsible for everything her family and extended family did. I doubt they would've made it down the aisle.

Since people get nothing out of Meghan, people feel the need to fill the void with her family and put the blame on her.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:06 AM
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Catherine is held accountable for a 'stripper cousin' she has never even met before. Relatives are either fair game or they're not. But there shouldn't be two standards.

Harry would never in a million years leak anything about Catherine or Charlotte to the tabloids. If the story is true, someone in Meghan's camp is name dropping.
Catherine shouldn't be held accountable. Neither should Meghan.

We're all guessing here, you can't just state it as a fact, that Meghan's camp is talking, if the story is true. Perhaps Meghan and Harry are working as a team, and decide what info to drop, together.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:27 AM
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We've been here before. Anyone remember Uncle Gary Goldsmith? Everyone thought he had ruined everything. Not true. We have to stop making big deals about this stuff.

Also, some members of the media are trying to make Meghan look bad. She's dating the favorite and lovable Prince. Nobody is good enough for him.
There does seem to be a smear campaign from both traditional and social media going on with Meghan which is sad. Like her or not does she warrant this level of hatred or scrutiny.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:28 AM
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Catherine shouldn't be held accountable. Neither should Meghan.

We're all guessing here, you can't just state it as a fact, that Meghan's camp is talking, if the story is true. Perhaps Meghan and Harry are working as a team, and decide what info to drop, together.
Just like Sarah and Diana it seems only the women are picked apart and hung out to dry by the grey men.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:31 AM
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There does seem to be a smear campaign from both traditional and social media going on with Meghan which is sad. Like her or not does she warrant this level of hatred or scrutiny.
There's absolutely one on social media. Traditional media is doing what they always do: if it bleeds, it leads.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:36 AM
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Just like Sarah and Diana it seems only the women are picked apart and hung out to dry by the grey men.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the grey men. It's not courtiers that are hanging Meghan out to dry here - it's the press.

And the reason the press are doing it is because the public (ie us) want stories about Harry and Meghan, but Harry and Meghan aren't playing that game, so the press is going for a different angle.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:43 AM
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The grey men didn't get Meghan's brother drunk and have him put a gun to his girlfriend's head. He did that on his own. That's not Meghan's fault. However Meghan is a public figure and if a relative of a public figure gets arrested it's going to make the news.

It's not the same as Uncle Gary. Uncle Gary got trapped in a undercover sting just like Sophie and Fergie did. The press went out of their way to get him to talk. The details of Meghan's brother arrest would be in the public record as part of the paperwork for his arrest.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:49 AM
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I don't get... Is this the thread to discuss, speculate etc about Harry & Meghan's relationshiop or a contest between Meghan and Kate about who of them has the most embarassing relatives? lol
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:25 AM
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the grey men. It's not courtiers that are hanging Meghan out to dry here - it's the press.

And the reason the press are doing it is because the public (ie us) want stories about Harry and Meghan, but Harry and Meghan aren't playing that game, so the press is going for a different angle.
Exactly, the royal couple aren't playing the game so the media will play it for them.


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I don't get... Is this the thread to discuss, speculate etc about Harry & Meghan's relationshiop or a contest between Meghan and Kate about who of them has the most embarassing relatives? lol
It's just the same game that was played with Harry's sister-in-law is being played with Meghan.

I've tried to warn everybody on the forums that this will come up and accusations will rise. We've been through years of this before with the Cambridge's during their courtship years. It pretty much lasted up until the day of the engagement announcement. It was an exciting and surprising day, but it was also a load lifted off the shoulders. Trying to maintain some sanity through these courtships isn't easy.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:43 AM
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Exactly, the royal couple aren't playing the game so the media will play it for them.

It's just the same game that was played with Harry's sister-in-law is being played with Meghan.

I've tried to warn everybody on the forums that this will come up and accusations will rise. We've been through years of this before with the Cambridge's during their courtship years. It pretty much lasted up until the day of the engagement announcement. It was an exciting and surprising day, but it was also a load lifted off the shoulders. Trying to maintain some sanity through these courtships isn't easy.
These two bears have gone into hibernation and the media is standing around outside the cave throwing rocks and poking the bears with sticks trying to wake them up and do something they can see. What they don't realize is that the bears are sound sleepers and won't bite back until they're good and ready to.

While the media and curious onlookers feel they need to know just about everything happening in this couple's life, the couple themselves know their relationship is only pertinent to themselves and will keep it this way. It does set a precedence too for the future if they decide to make the relationship permanent. Once Pandora's box is opened, its impossible to close it again. After the media frenzy that both William and Harry have had to endure with their parents, I don't blame them one bit for being determined to keep their private lives sequestered behind a strong impenetrable fortress. They accept that their public lives are lived in a virtual glass fishbowl but their private lives are their own. Its how it should be.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:45 AM
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The grey men didn't get Meghan's brother drunk and have him put a gun to his girlfriend's head. He did that on his own. That's not Meghan's fault. However Meghan is a public figure and if a relative of a public figure gets arrested it's going to make the news.

It's not the same as Uncle Gary. Uncle Gary got trapped in a undercover sting just like Sophie and Fergie did. The press went out of their way to get him to talk. The details of Meghan's brother arrest would be in the public record as part of the paperwork for his arrest.
So it's ok to behave in a poor manner when you are set up, but not when you aren't? Piss poor behavior is piss poor behavior, however you slice it.

ETA, I'm not bothered by the fact that it made news. I'm bothered by the fact that some are acting like this should somehow reflect on Meghan as a person.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:53 AM
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These two bears have gone into hibernation and the media is standing around outside the cave throwing rocks and poking the bears with sticks trying to wake them up and do something they can see. What they don't realize is that the bears are sound sleepers and won't bite back until they're good and ready to.

While the media and curious onlookers feel they need to know just about everything happening in this couple's life, the couple themselves know their relationship is only pertinent to themselves and will keep it this way. It does set a precedence too for the future if they decide to make the relationship permanent. Once Pandora's box is opened, its impossible to close it again. After the media frenzy that both William and Harry have had to endure with their parents, I don't blame them one bit for being determined to keep their private lives sequestered behind a strong impenetrable fortress. They accept that their public lives are lived in a virtual glass fishbowl but their private lives are their own. Its how it should be.
Following this couple will get crazy and tiring. I think the silence and lack of photos are killing people.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:05 AM
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Following this couple will get crazy and tiring. I think the silence and lack of photos are killing people.
That's exactly what I find so amusing and I wouldn't be surprised if Harry and Meghan themselves are having a blast with eluding the "all seeing" eyes.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:11 AM
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That's exactly what I find so amusing and I wouldn't be surprised if Harry and Meghan themselves are having a blast with eluding the "all seeing" eyes.
Oh, they have some laughs. Can't be all that pleasing either though.
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I hope that Meghan Markle will join Chelsey Davy and Cressida Bonas on the pile of ex-friends. The popularization and celebritization of the monarchy has gone a step too far. It would be nice when the prince just dates a nice lady from the aristocracy or gentry, who works as a volunteer for St John's Ambulances, or reads English Literature in Oxford or runs a forestry business in Scotland. Why have it always to be those bonbonellas, dedicated to frequenting posh nightlife venues?

I thought that the example of Lady Serena Stanhope, now the Countess of Snowdon, was a pretty nice one.

I'm not sure what example (about Serena Stanhope) you are referring to, but I do recall that she too was involved in a scandal right before her wedding.

Someone with a better memory may remember details; I think it was something to do with an ex giving a salacious (for the time) interview to the press.

So- look hard enough and there's a skeleton in the closet for everyone!
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I'm not sure what example (about Serena Stanhope) you are referring to, but I do recall that she too was involved in a scandal right before her wedding.

Someone with a better memory may remember details; I think it was something to do with an ex giving a salacious (for the time) interview to the press.

So- look hard enough and there's a skeleton in the closet for everyone!
Yes, I can't find a copy, but plenty of reports that her ex Alexander Slack sold a selacious interview to the tabloids about their sex life.

The reality is when you marry someone famous, your past is going to be dredged up. Unless Harry marries a nineteen year old virgin like his father, any bride us going to come with a past. You can't expect a woman in her thirties not to have had relationships. I'd be more worried she had never had a committed relationship.

So far the difference, the stories about her are all good. Divorce isn't some horrible sin. The only negative story is about a half brother she didn't grow up with and has no relationship with now. Nor do her close family, or even ex,mall abut her.
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Somebody had to talk about Meghan meets Kate and Charlotte. Emily Andrews even knew that Meghan bought Kate a dream journal or the story is completely made up.
Remember Catherine's 'friend' Jessica Hayes? The one who hasn't spoken to Catherine in years yet was always telling the press intimate made up details about Catherine?
Could be one of those story plants the Wales boys allegedly use to find out if a supposed friend will talk to the press, if so, Meghan knows whomever she told the Dream journal tidbit too can't be trusted going forward.
Kensington palace is a secure place, but there are many who live there & like any neighborhood gossip is bound to circulate, maybe some one's servant, maybe a fellow resident or an RPO talking to mates at the bar overheard by a reporter, maybe fellow Kensington Palace resident Princess Michael rang up her favorite reporter, maybe a 'grey man' doesn't like Meghan and leaked.
The story may or may not be true (lovely to think that it is - toddlers are so cute.)
If true, hard to know who leaked the info. & whether they leaked intentionally or inadvertently.
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Old 01-16-2017, 02:15 PM
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Hasn't Emily Andrews mentioned that her source is someone close to Harry? Reading her stories, this source always speaks from Harry's point of view. How happy he is, how serious he is about the relationship, etc. Yet some still think Meghan is talking? And you wonder why others believe the criticism of her is unfair?

It's true that the media is looking for any story or scandal with Harry and Meghan and since they haven't found anything scandalous on Meghan, they are focusing more on her family. The problem for them is that I don't think most people care about her estranged family's antics. It's probably a bit embarrassing for Meghan to have to see or read but it's no knock against her or the viability of her relationship with Harry.
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There's not much Meghan can do about her estranged family. In tge daily mail article they said, that they haven't been in contact with Meghan in a few years.

There's no proof for any of these articles, but to me it seems like they're taking a full advantage of Meghan's time off filming, and spending a lot of time together.
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