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Old 01-14-2017, 10:42 PM
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I think she talks to her dad. He's the only who hasn't said anything publicly about her.
I don't believe her mother has, either, other than to say no comment when running the press gauntlet.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:51 PM
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But worried if he takes off on another holiday with her not a good look and I wouldn't blame media if they call him on it. ALL the young royals need to work more


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Who cares? They'll always find something to complain about. They have every right to live their lives the same way as anyone else.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:53 PM
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Exactly--She's not a stranger off the street. This is a 100% normal step in any relationship. Good lord, it's not like she's meeting the queen.
And it's not like Harry hasn't already shown that he's willing to do things differently with this relationship. I really thought KP releasing that statement would make us all a little less skeptical about what is or isn't possible with Harry. Yet some still have doubts about even the most basic aspects of his relationship with Meghan. I understand why, but if an engagement does happen by the end of this year, no one should be surprised. The signs have been there from the start, guys.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:56 PM
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And it's not like Harry hasn't already shown that he's willing to do things differently with this relationship. I really thought KP releasing that statement would make us all a little less skeptical about what is or isn't possible with Harry. Yet some still have doubts about even the most basic aspects of his relationship with Meghan. I understand why, but if an engagement does happen by the end of this year, no one should be surprised. The signs have been there from the start, guys.

I completely agree! Part of the reason I'm also not understanding all the doubt
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:58 PM
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And it's not like Harry hasn't already shown that he's willing to do things differently with this relationship. I really thought KP releasing that statement would make us all a little less skeptical about what is or isn't possible with Harry. Yet some still have doubts about even the most basic aspects of his relationship with Meghan. I understand why, but if an engagement does happen by the end of this year, no one should be surprised. The signs have been there from the start, guys.
I think releasing a statement with his letterhead from Kensington Palace has erased all doubts that this relationship isn't serious. I don't know if an engagement would happen by end of year simply because marrying a senior member of the BRF isn't like marrying your average Joe. There are customs that one would need to adapt to, and her filming schedule does not allow a significant amount of time to be dedicated to that until end of this year. I also don't think it's good for Suits to be airing while a royal engagement is announced.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:58 PM
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Who cares? They'll always find something to complain about. They have every right to live their lives the same way as anyone else.

Actually I care and their royal and don't have the right to live their lives as they want if they want the BRF to continue
But I don't think you would understand what I'm talking about and it's off topic


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Old 01-14-2017, 11:14 PM
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I think that's a fair point. At the moment Harry is tabloid favourite because his private life is producing news; doesn't matter if it comes to anything or not because it will still be news. Doing charity work, meeting the public are not news its just what is expected in order to "pay your way".

But being favourite wont last - never has, never will. He has to find the balance between his private life (not easy with the distance issues) and doing enough royal work. He has responsibilities.

Many posters on here are just focussing on the relationship because that is what the thread is about. But undertaking royal duties eats into time needed to build that relationship.

It's tricky.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:22 PM
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About the Cambridge kids, it's pure speculation. Since we'll never know, do we have to argue about it?
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:38 PM
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As for holidays, Harry has been to Norway. I wouldn't count the diversion to Toronto on his return home from tour as a holiday, and he was home within days. The skiing holiday is sheer speculation by a tabloid about something that may or may not happen. Few royals do much after Christmas and into January anyway. anyway. A light sprinkling of engagements and that's it. Harry has another coming up next week.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:48 PM
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I think releasing a statement with his letterhead from Kensington Palace has erased all doubts that this relationship isn't serious. I don't know if an engagement would happen by end of year simply because marrying a senior member of the BRF isn't like marrying your average Joe. There are customs that one would need to adapt to, and her filming schedule does not allow a significant amount of time to be dedicated to that until end of this year. I also don't think it's good for Suits to be airing while a royal engagement is announced.
Well to be clear, if an engagement does happen, I think it would be late in the year, when her filming is over. Although it's entirely possible that she could be written off the show before the end of the season. Either way, I don't see the big problem with an engagement being announcement while Suits is airing?

I get your point about her marrying into the BRF but again, this relationship is not unfolding like most others. And we are talking about two people in their 30s who have stated in the last year that they can't wait to start a family. They already know what they want and what they have to do to make it happen. I personally don't doubt that Meghan has been getting a "history lesson" for months now.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:53 PM
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Well to be clear, if an engagement does happen, I think it would be late in the year, when her filming is over. Although it's entirely possible that she could be written off the show before the end of the season. Either way, I don't see the big problem with an engagement being announcement while Suits is airing?

I get your point about her marrying into the BRF but again, this relationship is not unfolding like most others. And we are talking about two people in their 30s who have stated in the last year that they can't wait to start a family. They already know what they want and what they have to do to make it happen. I personally don't doubt that Meghan has been getting a "history lesson" for months now.
While the royal family has modernized, they aren't quite that modernized. Just like while the media might command them for certain changes, they'll write the most salacious headline they can come up with if there is any intimate scenes with her costar. That's just not how you want an engagement announcement to be treated in the press. That'd be the only concern.
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Old 01-15-2017, 12:05 AM
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As for holidays, Harry has been to Norway. I wouldn't count the diversion to Toronto on his return home from tour as a holiday, and he was home within days. The skiing holiday is sheer speculation by a tabloid about something that may or may not happen. Few royals do much after Christmas and into January anyway. anyway. A light sprinkling of engagements and that's it. Harry has another coming up next week.
I was going to say that unless/until Harry takes a vacation at an unusual time (i.e. when he normally works) then I don't see the issue. I thought the skiing holiday had become the norm for him.

The idea that people would complain about him taking another vacation with Meghan is interesting though because any time marriage talk comes up, the discussion usually turns to how they haven't been dating long or don't know each other well enough. Ok so, how do you think they are going to get to that stage if they aren't spending time together? Lol Again, as long as Harry is not neglecting his duties, there shouldn't be an issue IMO.
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Old 01-15-2017, 12:19 AM
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While the royal family has modernized, they aren't quite that modernized. Just like while the media might command them for certain changes, they'll write the most salacious headline they can come up with if there is any intimate scenes with her costar. That's just not how you want an engagement announcement to be treated in the press. That'd be the only concern.
Ok. I understand. I've thought about how Meghan and the show would handle any intimate scenes now that she's dating Harry. And I wouldn't be surprised if she went to the writers and asked to limit those scenes to just kissing or "fade to black" where sex is implied but not shown. We can talk about whether that's really fair or necessary but if it's her choice, I'm ok with it.
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Old 01-15-2017, 12:39 AM
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Charlotte is a baby!!! Why is it so wrong or impossible for Meghan to have met her?? Come on!!!

If this story about her brother is true, so what? He is an adult. Meghan is not responsible for what he does. They have very little contact if any at all.

Look, Harry is in a serious relationship with Meghan. Your objections about it will not change anything or deter Prince Harry in any way. He doesn't care who does not approve. That much was clear in his KP statement he had released a few months ago.

Why can't you just be happy for him and stop attacking this woman? Even if Prince Harry saw your objections and/or comments, he would not care. He may even tell you what you can do your disapproval from what I have read about Harry in the past and of how protective he is of Meghan these days.
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Old 01-15-2017, 02:07 AM
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The way folks are carrying on about this young lady is just beyond silly, imo.
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:25 AM
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I hope that Meghan Markle will join Chelsey Davy and Cressida Bonas on the pile of ex-friends. The popularization and celebritization of the monarchy has gone a step too far. It would be nice when the prince just dates a nice lady from the aristocracy or gentry, who works as a volunteer for St John's Ambulances, or reads English Literature in Oxford or runs a forestry business in Scotland. Why have it always to be those bonbonellas, dedicated to frequenting posh nightlife venues?

I thought that the example of Lady Serena Stanhope, now the Countess of Snowdon, was a pretty nice one.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:12 PM
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:24 PM
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I hope that Meghan Markle will join Chelsey Davy and Cressida Bonas on the pile of ex-friends. The popularization and celebritization of the monarchy has gone a step too far.
He doesn't understand that he isn't' making the right choices because he keeps choosing the wrong people. His mother had this particular fault; this prejudice he has towards women of his own class is what is getting him into trouble with bad types of women who are either involved in shady work or are friends with real bad types.

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It would be nice when the prince just dates a nice lady from the aristocracy or gentry, who works as a volunteer for St John's Ambulances, or reads English Literature in Oxford or runs a forestry business in Scotland. Why have it always to be those bonbonellas, dedicated to frequenting posh nightlife venues?
Harry, like his brother and mother, apparently has some kind of prejudice against his own background. You don't see him spending time with the aristocracy or gentry mainly because they prefer solid stable lives and after a wild youth, conform to the expectations and rules of their class.

Harry is living life according to what the press want of him. His main 'audience' is the press and he's paying WAY too much to the self-appointed media guardians. A HUGE problem is how he was pressured to 'normalize' himself, even though he doesn't know what normalcy is.

At some point, we all have to fall in line either through our work or our class rules, or at least follow the law and get on with our lives. It's obvious that neither Harry or William want to fall in line and basically conform and go about their duties and charity work. They keep going out for as man cheap thrills as they can get instead of letting go of their youth.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:53 PM
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He doesn't understand that he isn't' making the right choices because he keeps choosing the wrong people. His mother had this particular fault; this prejudice he has towards women of his own class is what is getting him into trouble with bad types of women who are either involved in shady work or are friends with real bad types.



Harry, like his brother and mother, apparently has some kind of prejudice against his own background. You don't see him spending time with the aristocracy or gentry mainly because they prefer solid stable lives and after a wild youth, conform to the expectations and rules of their class.

Harry is living life according to what the press want of him. His main 'audience' is the press and he's paying WAY too much to the self-appointed media guardians. A HUGE problem is how he was pressured to 'normalize' himself, even though he doesn't know what normalcy is.

At some point, we all have to fall in line either through our work or our class rules, or at least follow the law and get on with our lives. It's obvious that neither Harry or William want to fall in line and basically conform and go about their duties and charity work. They keep going out for as man cheap thrills as they can get instead of letting go of their youth.
Wow, I think I just time traveled to the 70s. BTW, Cressida Bonas' grandfather was of nobility. So there goes your argument about his prejudice against girls of his own class. As for his media guardian that's trying to please. WHAT?!?!? He's becoming the master of hiding. Eventually they find out, but he's gotten pretty good at keeping his relationships a secret for some months before the press discovers it. Honestly, I don't see how Chelsy, Cressida, and Meghan fall into the "shady work" and "bad types" you speak of? Chelsy liked partying, but that's hardly shady or bad type? I can't think of anything that's too wrong with Cressida. She couldn't handle people making unfair criticism of her, which isn't really a terrible thing per se. As for Meghan, I think she's a fine woman who works hard and knows herself and what she believes in well.
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Why do people make this relationship so complicated?
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