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Old 01-12-2017, 02:33 AM
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I don't know who their source is, but is is no actual friend if the couple. Maybe the mailman
Maybe he's been steaming open envelopes!
Actually, I wonder whether they do write to each other? Harry was very fond of texting when he was with Chelsy, but not so fond of writing. Charles said he had received one letter from him during Harry's entire second deployment in Afghanstan. They probably Skype.
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Old 01-12-2017, 05:21 AM
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We had only a little announcement , we had only one photo of the couple together before christmas but a lot of articles in DM, they are living apart the most of the times and already, the readers are speaking of the wedding, the live of Meghan as princess or her future citizenship.
But who say you that they will marry? This affair looks like the affairs that Harry had with other friends, I see nothing else.
I don't see Meghan as a future princess, she is an actress she is already 36 and she is divorced. I don't thing that she will leave her carriere of actress to live in UK.
This affair is without future
Excuse me, I am an oldfashion woman
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:29 AM
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I don't know what being old fashioned has to do with Meghan and Harry. :)

There's not going to be weekly updates and Instagram posts from Meghan or Harry about their relationship. Just because it's not seen by us, doesn't mean it's meaningless or isn't serious. IMHO, the more they can spend time together out of the public eye, the better for them.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:55 AM
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I wanted to say ' I am oldfashioned ' I have no modern ideas about the monarchy.
But if Harry is happy with her and wants to do his life whith her , I would be happy for them but I don't think they will marry , we must wait and see
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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I don't know what being old fashioned has to do with Meghan and Harry. :)

There's not going to be weekly updates and Instagram posts from Meghan or Harry about their relationship. Just because it's not seen by us, doesn't mean it's meaningless or isn't serious. IMHO, the more they can spend time together out of the public eye, the better for them.
It is pointless to speculate if Harry and Meghan will marry or not, as nobody can tell that for sure right now. I agree that Meghan is not exactly an ideal bride, but, again, there have been plenty of non-ideal royal brides/ grooms lately (Letizia, Camilla, Mette-Marit, Daniel, Sofia, even Maxima) and, eventually they all got married.

In fact, if Harry wanted to marry Meghan, I doubt that, on this day and age, Prince Charles, or the Queen, or the British government would object. If they did object though, I suspect Harry would hesitate to go through with the marriage. That may sound like a mean and unfair thing to say, but, let's face it, being cut off from the family is not something that Harry could afford.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:10 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4112778/A-spring-step-Meghan-Markle-steps-yoga-class-Toronto-romantic-getaway-Prince-Harry-Northern-Lights.html
Meghan Markle steps out for yoga class in Toronto after getaway with Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:07 AM
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I really don't understand the point of writing an article about her going to yoga class. Isn't this like the fourth of fifth time?
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:11 AM
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^^^ whar could they write? The press has nothing in thier hands:no pictures of the couple, no news. They can't always rely on making-up rumors, so they think that pics of Meghan just doing her business is better than nothing!
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Old 01-12-2017, 10:18 AM
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It is pointless to speculate if Harry and Meghan will marry or not, as nobody can tell that for sure right now, I agree that Meghan is not exactly an ideal brid, but, again, there have been plenty of non-ideal royal brides/ grooms lately (Letizia, Camilla, Mette-Marit, Daniel, Sofia, even Maxima) and, eventually they all got married.

In fact, if Harry wanted to marry Meghan, I doubt that, on this day and age, Prince Charles, or the Queen, or the British government would object. If they did object though, I suspect Harry would hesitate to go through with the marriage,That may sound like a mean and unfair thing to say, but, let's face it, being cut off from the family is not something that Harry could afford.
I try not to get involved with the marriage discussion, because I think it's way too early to get into that.

What is the ideal royal bride?

From what I've seen, European royals are over trying to find the ideal royal bride. They're looking for love and following their hearts. Their families are fully supportive of them in their marriages.

I'm pretty glad Harry is thinking outside the box. It's something I wished he started doing. I think he was stuck in this stale box and it wasn't working for him.
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:13 AM
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I try not to get involved with the marriage discussion, because I think it's way too early to get into that.

What is the ideal royal bride?

From what I've seen, European royals are over trying to find the ideal royal bride. They're looking for love and following their hearts. Their families are fully supportive of them in their marriages.

I'm pretty glad Harry is thinking outside the box. It's something I wished he started doing. I think he was stuck in this stale box and it wasn't working for him.
Im holding off on marriage and engagement talk. We don't know anything about the state of their relationship because they're so private. The media is going overboard with it.
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:36 AM
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I try not to get involved with the marriage discussion, because I think it's way too early to get into that.

What is the ideal royal bride?

From what I've seen, European royals are over trying to find the ideal royal bride. They're looking for love and following their hearts. Their families are fully supportive of them in their marriages.

I'm pretty glad Harry is thinking outside the box. It's something I wished he started doing. I think he was stuck in this stale box and it wasn't working for him.

While I'm all for love and following one's heart, I'm afraid it is not that simple. The wife of a senior royal, chiefly the king and the heir to the Crown, but also the next most senior adult princes, is not a private person. In other words, she is expected to perform certain public duties, and the way she does it can potentially affect the image of the monarchy as an institution. That is why royal marriages normally require prior approval by the government in most countries. Basically, a royal marriage is as much a state affair as it is a personal, private matter.

Keep in mind though that being of noble or even royal birth is by no means a guarantee of suitability for the job. For example, Marie Antoinette in France, Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse) in Russia, and Frederica of Hanover in Greece were all royals by birth who, nonetheless, as royal consorts, did not cause, but contributed somewhat to the downfall of the royal families into which they married.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:08 PM
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While I'm all for love and following one's heart, I'm afraid it is not that simple. The wife of a senior royal, chiefly the king and the heir to the Crown, but also the next most senior adult princes, is not a private person. In other words, she is expected to perform certain public duties, and the way she does it can potentially affect the image of the monarchy as an institution. That is why royal marriages normally require prior approval by the government in most countries. Basically, a royal marriage is as much a state affair as it is a personal, private matter.

Keep in mind though that being of noble or even royal birth is by no means a guarantee of suitability for the job. For example, Marie Antoinette in France, Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse) in Russia, and Frederica of Hanover in Greece were all royals by birth who, nonetheless, as royal consorts, did not cause, but contributed somewhat to the downfall of the royal families into which they married.
You already mentioned it, but I'm just going to say, that IMHO, ones bloodline doesn't guarantee, that they'd be able to perform the royal duties and conform to the role being married to a royal requires. IMO it's all upto the personality traits, life experience and the relationship between the royal and the spouse. Eg Meghan, maybe she has the personality needed for the role, but she wouldn't have been able to handle it 10 years ago, or even 5. Perhaps someone 'born' into the role simply couldn't handle the publicity and public scrutiny. And Harry would have to be extremely supportive of the person he marries, too.
IMO looking down at Meghan's past is short-sighted, as maybe her life experience would be the reason she'd be perfect for the required role.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:09 PM
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While I'm all for love and following one's heart, I'm afraid it is not that simple. The wife of a senior royal, chiefly the king and the heir to the Crown, but also the next most senior adult princes, is not a private person. In other words, she is expected to perform certain public duties, and the way she does it can potentially affect the image of the monarchy as an institution. That is why royal marriages normally require prior approval by the government in most countries. Basically, a royal marriage is as much a state affair as it is a personal, private matter.

Keep in mind though that being of noble or even royal birth is by no means a guarantee of suitability for the job. For example, Marie Antoinette in France, Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse) in Russia, and Frederica of Hanover in Greece were all royals by birth who, nonetheless, as royal consorts, did not cause, but contributed somewhat to the downfall of the royal families into which they married.
From what I have seen of this young lady, Meghan is a pretty amazing person. I wish I could meet a woman like her. She supports children in need, stands up for women's rights, and she have a host of very fine qualities. Let's not leave out that she can cook too.

Whatever the future holds, I'm sure she will be able to handle the transition. She's got Harry for crying out loud.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:17 PM
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I like her. My only reservation is that she is 36 and Harry seems to me like the kind of fellow who would love a huge family. Maybe they could have a couple of kids and then adopt a few (VERY lucky) more.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:29 PM
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She's 35. Plenty of women in their mid to late 40's have healthy pregnancies. But most importantly, their reproductive plans are really not our business.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:30 PM
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Meghan is 35, not 36 and I don't know what the problem is?
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:32 PM
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I agree that Meghan is not exactly an ideal bride, but, again, there have been plenty of non-ideal royal brides/ grooms lately (Letizia, Camilla, Mette-Marit, Daniel, Sofia, even Maxima) and, eventually they all got married.
Be sure to add CP Mary, Queen Sonja, the Countess of Wessex as "non-ideal" by the old standards. But also note that everyone in that list has turned out to do a pretty darn good job of adjusting to royal life and taking on the role.

In contrast, you have Diana (who everyone assumed understood the game but seemed to be surprised by how the royal family operated), the Duchess of York (grew up without a title, but close enough to that circle that she knew the rules of behavior, yet broke them repeatedly), Prince Henrik (a count by birth, continually threw fits over being a prince instead of a king, although that's how it's worked for the last couple of centuries when a woman inherits the throne)...

I've said it before, but I think it bears repeating that Meghan shows every sign of an actress who knows a career in that business is fleeting and is prepared to walk away, if need be. She got a decent role on a mid-level show that has a modest audience but little name-recognition beyond its regular audience. That's great! It's a more secure job than a lot of working actresses ever get! But, especially for women, a role like that is often the end of a career in that business, and she has to know that. It's an industry that doesn't want to see women age, that only partially considers talent, that has a lack of imagination when considering the ability of anyone who isn't 100% white to fill a role that wasn't specifically written for a non-white ethnicity, and that is way too quick to say, "oh, well, now we know you as x role, so we can't see you as anything else, sorry."

Thus the website, the move into charity work. She was already laying the groundwork for staying on her feet if the acting thing ends when her current Suits contract is up.

Hollywood can be pretty mean to women who hit 35 without getting better-known roles than hers, so it would be well within the range of normal for someone in her position to walk away from that career soon, anyway. Add in the fact that she has now become known as "Harry's girlfriend..." and her serious acting career is probably over, whether she marries him or the relationship fizzles. She can still get offers on the basis of that fame, sure, but only jokey or cheap ones. Few quality showrunners or directors want their project to be primarily known as "the one that prince's girlfriend is in," so they'd want her, at most, for a walk-on role. If she'd built up a reputation with audiences as a well-known actress with a strong body of work, it would be different.
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Hello! My first post...

IMO, Kate Middleton can be added to the list of women not considered ideal to marry into a royal family.

If this relationship results in marriage, I do not think that they will have to worry too much about Meghan's 'advanced maternal age' (that phrase was written on my chart when I became pregnant at 37!), as they will have access to the best fertility treatments & options. Sophie was over 40 when she gave birth to James.

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Old 01-12-2017, 02:23 PM
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Hello! My first post...

IMO, Kate Middleton can be added to the list of women not considered ideal to marry into a royal family.

If this relationship results in marriage, I do not think that they will have to worry too much about Meghan's 'advanced maternal age' (that phrase was written on my chart when I became pregnant at 37!), as they will have access to the best fertility treatments & options. Sophie was over 40 when she gave birth to James.

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Never say never.

If they did formally adopt a child, that child would not be in the line of succession or inherit any title from Harry. In order to do that, they would have to be "heirs of the body". The way round this would be to give the child a title in their own right but still not in the line of succession.

The process of adoption in the UK is so stringent and there is a long waiting list. Any idea of preferential treatment because of Harry's status would cause an outcry.

some contact with the birth family is usually maintained esp if adopting an older child

The media would move heaven and earth to find out who the birth family are (just saying).

Adopting a child from overseas would also be seen as negative by some.

The obstacles are great.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:30 PM
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IMO, Kate Middleton can be added to the list of women not considered ideal to marry into a royal family.
Kate may not have been considered 'ideal' back in the day but she ticks all the boxes now. The last princess to marry into the BRF was Marina of Greece and Denmark, over 80 years ago.

Kate comes from a wealthy Home Counties family. She was educated at the best private schools in Britain and doesn't have any skeletons in her closet.

But this thread is about Harry and Meghan.
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