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Old 12-15-2016, 02:56 PM
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I'm with you. Christmas Eve is royals opening presents. Christmas Day is going to church. Meghan as the girlfriend wouldn't be going to Christmas Eve. If she went to church Christmas Day, that becomes the story so she is going to hang with complete strangers the Middletons on Christmas Eve and then stay behind with Nanny Maria when everyone else goes to church or spend the holiday with her own family? I'm betting she goes to her own family.
Hey, if people want to go full-delusional, in addition to Meghan being invited to Anmer for Christmas why not also invite the Parker-Bowles and Lopes families to stay at Anmer, too. That way Meghan won't be ditched by herself. Just think while all the HRHs are at Sandringham with HM. The Middleton family, Meghan, and Camilla's children and grandchildren can all party at Anmer and maybe teepee the house with toilet paper to surprise the Cambridges when they return from Sandringham.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:58 PM
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Harry is a Prince where any future royal children are raised is a subject that is also often discussed in other royal family's threads. Sweden for one.


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Yeah, but why go into all this talk about big break ups and who's going getting custody of the kids, when this couple is just dating and trying to see where things are going to go?
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:17 PM
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I won't click on that trash, but 80 years ago Bertie was King. He was pretty open-minded with marriages. He let Elizabeth marry Philip despite the Nazi connections with Philips in-laws. He let his nephew marry a jewish woman. It was said he couldn't deny Margaret anything, had he lived longer I think he would have approved her marriage to divorcee Peter Townsend, and fought for her against the the government powers that be. So I guess what I'm saying is, I think it's real tacky that the DM is slating Bertie like this, or so I presume as I won't click on that nonsense.
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:20 PM
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I disagree. I think we have a good idea of who's invited. For George's 2nd Birthday at Anmer we know Prince Philip and his friend Penny attended. We know the Middletons attended without girlfriend Donna, and without then-boyfriend Nico. We know Harry wasn't there.

When the Middletons were at Anmer for Christmas 2014, we know from pictures that Donna and Nico weren't there.

When Catherine turned 34 this last January, and had a small party at Anmer, we know her friends the Meades, Bakers, and Ms. Carter attended. We know the Middletons were there but boyfriend James Matthews and girlfriend Donna Air weren't there.

There is a very clear pattern of siblings' spouses not getting invites to family gatherings at Anmer.
You named only three events. What about the other 200 some odd days of the year the Cambridges are at Anmer? I doubt those were the only times the Middletons gathered at Anmer.

To bring this back on topic, I agree with the others that there is no chance of Meghan showing up at Sandringham for Christmas. Too much too soon
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:26 PM
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I won't click on that trash, but 80 years ago Bertie was King. He was pretty open-minded with marriages. He let Elizabeth marry Philip despite the Nazi connections with Philips in-laws. He let his nephew marry a jewish woman. It was said he couldn't deny Margaret anything, had he lived longer I think he would have approved her marriage to divorcee Peter Townsend, and fought for her against the the government powers that be. So I guess what I'm saying is, I think it's real tacky that the DM is slating Bertie like this, or so I presume as I won't click on that nonsense.
No matter how open minded Albert was, I doubt he would have let one of his sons marry an American actress who was also half-black and a divorcee to boot.
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:39 PM
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Piers Morgan bragging again about being 'friends' with Meghan. If anything dooms this relationship, a friendship with the former editor of News of the World and Daily Mirror will be on top of the list.

Remember when Piers was asked by the BBC, "Why can't you just leave Prince Harry alone?" (Piers was Harry's chief tormentor back in the Nazi fancy dress days)
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:42 PM
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I just hope everyone keep in mind; the British royal family of today is totally different from the British royal family of the past. From The Queen and Prince Philip, on down, the family are very warm and welcoming to boyfriends and girlfriends. I'm sure if things become very serious between Harry and Meghan, the family will welcome Meghan into the family. I'm sure they are happy for Harry right now and respect his love life.

I think this couple will spend Christmas with their own families. There could be a vacation in for them soon too. I guess it depends if they're planning one and if their schedules permit them to do so.

I would do anything to get out of this bitter cold and go somewhere warm with my sweetheart.
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:01 PM
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Reading your post, Miche, I had to chuckle quite loudly to myself here because from all I've read when it comes to Harry and the Cambridge children, Uncle Harry is probably the bright spot of the day when he comes through the door. I think it was when W&K&H entertained the Obamas that George asked "why is Uncle Harry being so quiet?" as Uncle Harry was on his best behavior.

I think, at least in my mind, that if the kids are over the moon with being with Uncle Harry, any friend of his would be an instant hit with them too. I can well imagine Meghan joining in the horseplay as much as Harry does. Of course this is all in my head from the bits and pieces we've been able to put together but its an amusing scene that made me smile.
Just b/c Harry is a bright spot for George (base on what Michelle Obama said) doesn't mean its right for him to bring his girlfriend to stay at his sibling house. She's a stranger to these kids

There are other properties at Sandringham that Harry can stayed at. If the press wanted to make up stories about Meghan being there with him at Christmas, they can write that he will stay at those houses.

Also just b/c that Harry's girlfriend doesn't mean they should just invite her to stay at their house with their small children in there.

I don't even think non royal family would do that when the significant other as only been there for less than a year and its long distance. Its not like they know her
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:22 PM
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I'm sure the family would welcome Harry's guest to their houses folks. No one would have to worry about the kids or anything like that. They love and trust him and would welcome his girlfriend with open arms. The royals entertain guest on a regular bases, especially at their country houses.
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:41 PM
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Yeah, but why go into all this talk about big break ups and who's going getting custody of the kids, when this couple is just dating and trying to see where things are going to go?

Because I'm interested in what happens in the BRF re children living aboard.


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Old 12-15-2016, 04:43 PM
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Did Harry ever follow through with getting Meghan a bodyguard?
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:47 PM
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I won't click on that trash, but 80 years ago Bertie was King. He was pretty open-minded with marriages. He let Elizabeth marry Philip despite the Nazi connections with Philips in-laws. He let his nephew marry a jewish woman. It was said he couldn't deny Margaret anything, had he lived longer I think he would have approved her marriage to divorcee Peter Townsend, and fought for her against the the government powers that be. So I guess what I'm saying is, I think it's real tacky that the DM is slating Bertie like this, or so I presume as I won't click on that nonsense.

80 years (and 5 days) ago Edward VIII abdicated because he wanted to marry a divorced American.

King or not, George VI would not have then allowed one of his children to marry a divorcee, on the grounds that if a divorcee American spouse was acceptable for George's heir or his spare then why did Edward have to abdicate?

Whether or not he would have allowed Margaret to marry Peter Townsend some 20 years later (about 60 years ago) is another issue, although as the CoE's stance on divorce was still absolutely against it I wouldn't call it a sure thing - the advantage that he would have had over Elizabeth in this regards is that she was then a 20-something woman still relatively new to her role dealing with older, more established men, while he would have been an older, more established man himself.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:10 PM
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I don't think Queen Mary supported it at the time. I doubt the King would of either.

Keep in mind she could of married him...but she didn't want to lose the position.


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Old 12-15-2016, 05:27 PM
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When you think about then and now, there are so many changes that its impossible to compare the then times with the now times. Take TV for example. Some of the stuff that is broadcast during prime time TV hours today would have made our grandmothers reach for the smelling salts and give men of the cloth plenty to fill their sermons with each week raving against the Evil Box in the living room.

We just have to look to Charles, Anne and Andrew to see clearly that divorce has become a more acceptable choice with remarriage in the royal family to divorced people also acceptable.

If the BRF remained in the same mindset without change over the years, they would quickly be seen as anachronistic and irrelevant to today's world. Kind of like sticking to the point that TV is just a passing fad and its best to just rely on the radio for all one's needs.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:29 PM
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80 years (and 5 days) ago Edward VIII abdicated because he wanted to marry a divorced American.

King or not, George VI would not have then allowed one of his children to marry a divorcee, on the grounds that if a divorcee American spouse was acceptable for George's heir or his spare then why did Edward have to abdicate?
When Bertie became King in 1936 his children were 10 and 6. So of course he wouldn't approve marriages for them at the start of his reign as they were mere children. So of course I can only talk about how he handled - or would of handled - their love lives at a later age.

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I don't think Queen Mary supported it at the time. I doubt the King would of either.

Keep in mind she could of married him...but she didn't want to lose the position.


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Queen Mary was bendable. She initially didn't support her grandson Earl of Harewood marrying a jewish woman. But with Bertie's approval and the hopeful groom's dogged determination she eventually relented.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:41 PM
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Piers Morgan bragging again about being 'friends' with Meghan. If anything dooms this relationship, a friendship with the former editor of News of the World and Daily Mirror will be on top of the list.

Remember when Piers was asked by the BBC, "Why can't you just leave Prince Harry alone?" (Piers was Harry's chief tormentor back in the Nazi fancy dress days)

No it does'nt doom anything, Americans know Piers as the guy who took Larry King's place and that was how Meghan knew Piers and I knew him....she agreed with his opinion regarding gun control and I remember also agreeing with him and thinking he was just a talking head. Piers also was a fan of the show and follows not only Meghan but other members. Again Americans simply do not have the same history and know nothing about how awful he is.

Also they are hardly friends, and at the time of the meeting Meghan tweeted about her trip to England and meeting Piers as well as other people in the media and fashion.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:42 PM
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As we thought, Meghan won't be spending Christmas at Anmer. The Telegraph reports the Cambridges are going to Bucklebury this year.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:46 PM
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It'll be lonely this Christmas for Prince Harry as Meghan, William and Kate all celebrate elsewhere

I don't think Harry will be exactly lonely, the Yorks (minus Sarah, of course) Wessexes, Tindalls and others will be packing the house. It's only for a couple of days, anyway. I'm sure Harry will have the time of his life. Everybody seems to enjoy the Sandringham get-together.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:46 PM
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It'll be lonely this Christmas for Prince Harry as Meghan, William and Kate all celebrate elsewhere

Why doesn't Harry just fly to California with Meghan since his brother and his family will be with the Middletons this year?
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:54 PM
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When Bertie became King in 1936 his children were 10 and 6. So of course he wouldn't approve marriages for them at the start of his reign as they were mere children. So of course I can only talk about how he handled - or would of handled - their love lives at a later age.



Queen Mary was bendable. She initially didn't support her grandson Earl of Harewood marrying a jewish woman. But with Bertie's approval and the hopeful groom's dogged determination she eventually relented.


She never relented about Wallis though as I recall. She could be very 'unbendy' A daughter is different than a grandson, marrying decades later.


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When you think about then and now, there are so many changes that its impossible to compare the then times with the now times. Take TV for example. Some of the stuff that is broadcast during prime time TV hours today would have made our grandmothers reach for the smelling salts and give men of the cloth plenty to fill their sermons with each week raving against the Evil Box in the living room.

Not just that....you would of gone to jail!



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