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Old 03-13-2015, 10:34 PM
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Well, but I think that the preoccupation with Harry being single is too much IMO. I think we should not think about the future and wonder "What if he marries at forty? Will he be infertile? What if he will remain a bachelor? About his lifestyle: Many royal men had a similar life pace, being playboys and having fun, then suddenly they "settled down" as you say. So I guess that if or when he will find his soul mate he will do the same...
I see what you are saying but Harry has said that he wants to have a family. It's possible he's changed his mind and has decided to remain a bachelor, but if he does want to get married and have children, he probably needs to consider how to best meet someone who will be compatible and fit in with his role as a high-profile member of the royal family. His challenge is not easy.
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I hope he does find someone as I always feel sorry for Andrew when the whole family are at ceremonies and he walks alone. Usually he has his daughters but not all the time and then he is by himself.

I agree that it is hard for Harry to find someone who is going to be willing to give up their whole lives for royal service. You don't know how important your anonymity is until you lose it. Edward said that when he first met Sophie and pleaded to the press to leave her alone as he had seen what the press can do.
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I hope he does find someone as I always feel sorry for Andrew when the whole family are at ceremonies and he walks alone. Usually he has his daughters but not all the time and then he is by himself.

I agree that it is hard for Harry to find someone who is going to be willing to give up their whole lives for royal service. You don't know how important your anonymity is until you lose it. Edward said that when he first met Sophie and pleaded to the press to leave her alone as he had seen what the press can do.
Harry wants to marry and have children, but it is not easy to find a person who is available to leave everything to marry him and of course that is the height of belonging to the British Royal Family.

I wish he marries a princess of a royal house not reigning as Germany or the Princess Theodora of Greece , or with a British nobleman.
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I wish he marries a princess of a royal house [...] or with a British nobleman.
Okay. I'm game.
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I wish he marries a princess of a royal house not reigning as Germany or the Princess Theodora of Greece , or with a British nobleman.

I don't see the point of that (marrying someone from a royal house that is not reigning. That means just another commoner, right? Might as well marry a commoner in the first place).


He might marry into the British aristocracy, but that would be mostly because those are the circles he moves in.
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I don't see the point of that (marrying someone from a royal house that is not reigning. That means just another commoner, right? Might as well marry a commoner in the first place).
Depends on the point of view, I guess. The British Royal Family regard their non-reigning counterparts as Royals. The Duchess of Cambridge even curtsied to the Crown Princess of Romania at the Diamond Jubilee Lunch, which had many non-reigning Royals in attendance.

If we're talking about Prince Harry and a Princess from a non-reigning House, here's a picture of him with Princess Maria Beatriz of Orleans-Braganza, a niece of the Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, taken in Rio de Janeiro, in 2012 (the Princess is the girl on the right):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LmwXLtsF6_...dedentrooo.jpg
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If we're talking about Prince Harry and a Princess from a non-reigning House, here's a picture of him with Princess Maria Beatriz of Orleans-Braganza, a niece of the Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, taken in Rio de Janeiro, in 2012 (the Princess is the girl on the right):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LmwXLtsF6_...dedentrooo.jpg
OmiGosh! The red-eye! Clearly not a professionally taken photograph!

The Princess looks lovely. Her family would likely be up for it and she seems to be his physical type. Dare we hope?
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OmiGosh! The red-eye! Clearly not a professionally taken photograph!

The Princess looks lovely. Her family would likely be up for it and she seems to be his physical type. Dare we hope?
One problem however.

The Brazilian royal house would only allow the marriage IF Harry converted to Roman Catholicism and thus gave up his own right to the British throne.
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Are there any eligible young daughters of Scottish noblemen that might be a possible wife for Henry?
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Looking through Scottish dukes there seems to be a paucity of doughters of the right age, and unfortunately no photos of any.

The Duke of Buccleuch has a daughter, Lady Amabel, who was born in 1992, a little young but a possible!
The Duke of Roxburghe has Lady Isabella, born in September 1992.

Lady Rose Marie, born 1993, is the daughter of the Marquess of Huntly, again too young, IMO.
The Marquess of Lothian's daughter Mary was born in 1981, a bit too old, perhaps. The Marquess's heir, Lord Ralph Kerr, has a daughter Amabel, born in 1995. Too young!

The heir to the Earl of Mar, the Hon Alexander Erskine, has a daughter Isabel, who was born in 1982.

Almost all too old or too young, so far!
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:42 PM
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OmiGosh! The red-eye! Clearly not a professionally taken photograph!

The Princess looks lovely. Her family would likely be up for it and she seems to be his physical type. Dare we hope?

She is indeed lovely. But she would have to convert to the Church of England(never happen..see Iluvbertie) or Harry must become a Roman Catholic(never happen).


And I don't agree that an early 20-something woman born between 1992 and 1995 would be too young for Harry,btw.
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Under the about to be finalised Succession to the Crown Act she would be able to remain a Roman Catholic and not affect Harry's right to the throne.


The new Act allows those who have married RC's to return to the line of succession but ... anyone who is RC will still be excluded (and rightly so - you can't have the Supreme Governor of the Church of England not belong to the Church of England - just as no one would accept a Roman Catholic Pope to be anything but a Roman Catholic).
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Prince Harry would not be required to convert to Catholicism in order to marry Princess Maria Beatriz, as she has no rights to the defunct Throne of Brazil, because her father married a commoner, her mother.

And, with the Succession to the Crown Act, the Princess could marry Prince Harry and keep her religion, without him loosing his rights to the British Throne.

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She already works with charity.
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Under the about to be finalised Succession to the Crown Act she would be able to remain a Roman Catholic and not affect Harry's right to the throne.


The new Act allows those who have married RC's to return to the line of succession but ... anyone who is RC will still be excluded (and rightly so - you can't have the Supreme Governor of the Church of England not belong to the Church of England - just as no one would accept a Roman Catholic Pope to be anything but a Roman Catholic).
What about their children? If they were to be in the line of Succession to the British throne they would have to be baptized and raised in the Church of England. Depending on how observant the young lady and her family the Imperial House of Brazil are, that might not be acceptable to them.

The best solution would be for Harry to wed a non-Catholic...or a non-religious Catholic like his cousin Peter did.
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I don't agree that an early 20-something woman born between 1992 and 1995 would be too young for Harry,btw.
I agree. In fact, with the way he's going (if he's not secretly courting a lady fair, like Chelsy ) Harry will likely marry a woman who will be about 10 years or more younger than him, with the age gap widening as the years progress. That's my prediction.
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I agree. In fact, with the way he's going (if he's not secretly courting a lady fair, like Chelsy ) Harry will likely marry a woman who will be about 10 years or more younger than him, with the age gap widening as the years progress. That's my prediction.
And you are probably predicting correctly.

I am hoping that he is chasing Chelsy again so he doesn't chase a job down under!
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OmiGosh! The red-eye! Clearly not a professionally taken photograph!

The Princess looks lovely. Her family would likely be up for it and she seems to be his physical type. Dare we hope?
I doubt it. The princess and her family are Catholic. The law is about to change to allow members of the BRF to marry Catholics without forefeiting their succession rights, but somehow I doubt Harry would marry a non-Protestant. Furthermore, any children of that marriage would still have to be Protestant to remain in the line of succession.

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What about their children? If they were to be in the line of Succession to the British throne they would have to be baptized and raised in the Church of England. Depending on how observant the young lady and her family the Imperial House of Brazil are, that might not be acceptable to them.

The best solution would be for Harry to wed a non-Catholic...or a non-religious Catholic like his cousin Peter did.

Maxima, according to the Dutch posters on the TRF, got an special authorization from the Archbishop of Utrecht to marry the Protestant Prince of Orange. However, she didn't marry in the Catholic church and her 3 daughters were baptized in the Protestant church and are being raised as Protestants (princess Amalia is actually moving this year from a secular public school to a private Protestant gymnasium).

Another example is Princess Leonore of Sweden, who, even though her father is Catholic, was baptized in the Lutheran church to preserve her rights of succession to the Swedish throne.

If Harry married a Catholic, I assume that, like Maxima's and Madeleine's children, his children would also be raised as Protestants. Would the Brazilian Imperial Family accept that ?
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Depends on the point of view, I guess. The British Royal Family regard their non-reigning counterparts as Royals. The Duchess of Cambridge even curtsied to the Crown Princess of Romania at the Diamond Jubilee Lunch, which had many non-reigning Royals in attendance.

If we're talking about Prince Harry and a Princess from a non-reigning House, here's a picture of him with Princess Maria Beatriz of Orleans-Braganza, a niece of the Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, taken in Rio de Janeiro, in 2012 (the Princess is the girl on the right):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LmwXLtsF6_...dedentrooo.jpg
Thank you for sharing this photo - I've never seen Harry with any member of a non-reigning house before. Do we know if the BRF have any connections to the Brazilian Imperial Family or was it just a coincidence that Harry and Princess Maria Beatriz met? What event was the photo taken at? It looks like it was taken at a party, judging by the clothes they are wearing (and, the general vibe of the photo just feels a bit like a party for me).

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I don't see the point of that (marrying someone from a royal house that is not reigning. That means just another commoner, right? Might as well marry a commoner in the first place).
This is off-topic but personally, I consider non-reigning royals as royalty, though for me they are not on the same "level" (not sure if that was the correct word to use here) as reigning royals, since they are no longer the head of state of their country, and are mostly just like ordinary citizens. Some non-reigning royals do perform engagements, such as Crown Prince Alexander and Crown Princess Katherine of Serbia, and the Romanian RF. Others do attend events such as charity dinners and events in connection with projects that help the less fortunate citizens of their country. But most of the non-reigning royals tend to live more of a private life.

IIRC, the titles of non-reigning royals are recognised in England and can be used on official occasions, since non-reigning titles are only not recognised in their own countries and other republics. Therefore, it wouldn't exactly be the equivalent of marrying a commoner for Harry. However, if Harry were to marry a woman with a title, I think it's more likely she will come from an aristocratic English family, and I think it's quite unlikely he will marry someone like Princess Theodora of Greece, as she is related to Harry through Prince Philip. Royal relations marrying each other mostly seems to be a thing of the past nowadays. But, I think Harry will marry a girl like Cressida Bonas (not Cressida herself though, their relationship appears to be over), who doesn't have a title, but moves in his circle of friends and is from a wealthy family.
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And you are probably predicting correctly.

I am hoping that he is chasing Chelsy again so he doesn't chase a job down under!
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I like the idea! It would be a real break with his past, starting anew in a new place. Makes sense. I can see Harry having found a comfortable slot among Aussies. Couldn't he be the Royal Governor or something? And marrying an Aussie girl seems about right for him. I like this scenario.
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