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Harry not being an intellectual is well known and he has admitted to struggling academically. He is more of a action man. So if he dated a Hermione Granger type person who would rather read a classic novel and go the National Gallery instead of going to watch England play Wales at Twickenham or spend a week on Balmoral, that probably isn't going to last if they have nothing in common.
I am not sure why the notion that Harry isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer survives all evidence to the contrary. Harry is very self depricating, which is sweet, and he isn't going to read history at Cambridge but, not-too-bright action men do not qualify to fly aircraft let alone Apache Helicopters!

As to his love life, I hope his next girlfriend is a woman of wit and charm that he manages to keep out of the media for as long as possible
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I am not sure why the notion that Harry isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer survives all evidence to the contrary. Harry is very self depricating, which is sweet, and he isn't going to read history at Cambridge but, not-too-bright action men do not qualify to fly aircraft let alone Apache Helicopters!

As to his love life, I hope his next girlfriend is a woman of wit and charm that he manages to keep out of the media for as long as possible
I agree. He is not academic but that does not mean stupid. Educational snobbery is so limiting.
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I didn't read Skippyboo's comments as implying that Harry isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Harry did struggle academically, but so did Albert Einstein. I don't know if Harry reads classic novels, but I am pretty sure he enjoys art.

Although I agree that a marriage is easier if the spouses share each others' interests, it's far more important that they share common goals, compliment each others' temperaments, and have great communications. I hope he finds someone who can make him happy and who he can make happy.
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I agree. He is not academic but that does not mean stupid. Educational snobbery is so limiting.

I agree. Frankly I find that common sense is more important when it comes down to the brass tacks.

We've had our fill of educational elitists over here that think by virtue of their Ivy League schools they have the right to tell others what to do and how to do it.


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Old 06-08-2014, 07:23 PM
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I agree. Frankly I find that common sense is more important when it comes down to the brass tacks.

We've had our fill of educational elitists over here that think by virtue of their Ivy League schools they have the right to tell others what to do and how to do it.


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(But as for Harry- he seems equipped for the job he's doing and never struck me as a stupid man)
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:07 PM
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"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"

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(But as for Harry- he seems equipped for the job he's doing and never struck me as a stupid man)

I'm a college educated person. I am not anti-intellectual...I am anti those, who by virtue of their education, think they have the right to tell those they consider to be ignorant that they are wrong to believe and/or do X.

Helicopter pilots are not stupid. You cannot be stupid and fly that type of machine. Scholastic testing is a subjective thing to begin with (as are IQ tests) so because one does not make top scores in classes does not mean they are dumb or not as smart as the person who does make those top scores.



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Old 06-08-2014, 08:50 PM
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WOW, Pranter, that is one great comment. A person who flies one of these type of machines in active/non-active duty can't be stupid at all. It takes brains to learn all that there is to do. That is not a job for dumb wit person. I think Harry has found his niche, so to speak, about what his interest are in life, he loves the military, flying and being with men who treat him as an equal. And it seems he has a great concern for the welfare of children, think someday he will make a very good father!
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I'm a college educated person. I am not anti-intellectual...I am anti those, who by virtue of their education, think they have the right to tell those they consider to be ignorant that they are wrong to believe and/or do X.

Helicopter pilots are not stupid. You cannot be stupid and fly that type of machine. Scholastic testing is a subjective thing to begin with (as are IQ tests) so because one does not make top scores in classes does not mean they are dumb or not as smart as the person who does make those top scores.



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You are quite correct. It is a common misconception that a superior education denotes a superior intellect. It does not and I woud go so far as to say that Harry is living proof of that fallacy.

I believe that he will find someone with whom he shares grass roots common ground. Honour, duty, a generosity of spirit and a wicked sense of humour.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:56 PM
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I hope he finds a more common down to earth type of person as opposed to the type of girls (titled and/or socialites) who move in his social circle. He needs to follow his brother's lead in this.


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[QUOTE=Pranter;1674299]I'm a college educated person. I am not anti-intellectual...I am anti those, who by virtue of their education, think they have the right to tell those they consider to be ignorant that they are wrong to believe and/or do X.
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Only up to a point. The U.S. is starting to have some pretty bad issues with anti-intellectualism. (Congressmen who don't believe in evolution or that global warming is influenced by human activities for example)

I'm with you on Harry, and on his abilities, just not on the more broad statement that we in the U.S. are sick of being told what to do by intellectuals.
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Book smarts are good as long as there is some practicality along with it.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:11 PM
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Only up to a point. The U.S. is starting to have some pretty bad issues with anti-intellectualism. (Congressmen who don't believe in evolution or that global warming is influenced by human activities for example)

I'm with you on Harry, and on his abilities, just not on the more broad statement that we in the U.S. are sick of being told what to do by intellectuals.

If someone wants to deny evolution that's their right to do so. If someone wants to have their own beliefs about global warming again they have the right to that belief. You not agreeing with them does not mean they are not educated enough. That's the elitist attitude I am talking about.

Here in the midwest we are all pretty sick of the intellectual elites telling us that because we believe in XY and Z that means we are just to stupid and/or not college educated enough to know any better. Guess what we are educated and we are quite comfortable in our beliefs.

Tolerance of other beliefs goes both ways.

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Book smarts are good as long as there is some practicality along with it.
Naturally, and I'll bet Harry's got a practical streak in him as well.
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As several said, it takes brains to run a helicopter. When I taught in community college, my favorite students were the guys and gals from the vocational side of our college, those studying "practical" subjects. And I especially loved my so-called remedial students, who were often as bright or brighter than those who had "done well" in high school. I ended up with successful students in those classes. I think Harry could be like that...underestimated as to brains.
But he seems to know no one but the so-called "hard partying" folks. There are so many other women out there who could be potential good mates. Thousands of women. He just never gets a chance to meet them because he goes around with the "hard party" people. Here he is a prince of the realm and he's socially deprived. He doesn't meet the best girls.
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I'm a college educated person. I am not anti-intellectual...I am anti those, who by virtue of their education, think they have the right to tell those they consider to be ignorant that they are wrong to believe and/or do X.

Helicopter pilots are not stupid. You cannot be stupid and fly that type of machine. Scholastic testing is a subjective thing to begin with (as are IQ tests) so because one does not make top scores in classes does not mean they are dumb or not as smart as the person who does make those top scores.



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Why do you keep confusing intellectual with intelligence? I'm sure you know the difference!
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:33 AM
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"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"

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Thank you very much - I'm with you.

Beeing bright and brainy and beeing intellectual are not the same thing. No one wrote, that Harry is stupid. But I haven't seen any sign yet, that he is intellectual (this he shares with most of his family IMHO). It doesn't devalue him, as it doesn't devalue Intellectuals.
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If someone wants to deny evolution that's their right to do so. If someone wants to have their own beliefs about global warming again they have the right to that belief. You not agreeing with them does not mean they are not educated enough. That's the elitist attitude I am talking about.


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I wouldn't call that elitist; all beliefs simply are not equal.
A person, for example, might sincerely believe the world is flat (a theory disproved centuries ago).

Would the people who said he was wrong be considered elitist?

Back to Harry...he might not be academically inclined, but he seems smart and adaptable to circumstances (probably more important for someone in his position).
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#PrinceHarry spent the weekend with his ex Chelsy Davy just weeks after finishing with Cressida Bonas reports @TheSunNewspaper
I think it means Harry and Chelsy were at the same wedding as guests. No more
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