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Old 02-28-2013, 06:06 AM
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I believe Sarah has shown not only the world but the Rf as well what a Royal/former Royal can get away with. So I'm not convinced Harry's girlfriend needs to be afraid of the job. Because she must never harbour hopes to be treated differently from Sarah. There are already journalists out there who wrote of Cressida how much they (the media) like the fact that Cressida seems to be a feisty girl just like Sarah was. So the reports are already written, no matter how she actually would be as Harry's wife.

First she will be praised as fresh air for the oh so boring RF with impeccable queen, Camilla and Catherine, then we'll hear that these ladies (well, maybe not HM) started to weaving a web of intrigues against her, how unhappy she is with the family, how she fights back on using her social contacts against middle-class girl Catherine...

We will have talks of scenes between hot headed Harry and his either poor or guilty wife, there will be talk of divorce... all the media can invent but cannot put onto the perfect proper marriage of W&C....

If she (be her Cressida or another lady) is aware that this will happen no matter what she does and if she thinks she can cope with it, trusting Harry to help her with her real life, then we will have another Royal wedding.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:25 AM
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I would not exactly say "sacrifice", as many others have put it, but certainly a "smart adapatability" is definitely needed for someone marrying into Royalty, no matter which person or which country.
Because you just "stay so forever", and your are never expected to lose your dignity in public. Unlike celebrities, whose "all sorts of emotions" are excused and even celebrated, royals are expected only and only to smile and wave.
And since there is literally nothing to discuss about their career/growth/policies/ideas/principles, the only talk will be about their relationships.
So the most important thing for them is to show that "EVERYTHING IS OK".
These women marrying into Royalty should always have to definitely put up with some things, whether its their husbands or in-laws. Everything and everyone goes wrong once in a while.
We do not expect all these Mary/Maxima/Letizia/MM et al. are "happily-married-forever"..Each one have their own probs, ranging from simple differences of opinion to ego clashes to infidelities (I am speaking generally).
You cannot shout from roof-tops for everything. You cannot expect your Prince-Hubby to kiss you thrice a day and say he loves you.
But still, you should get on, having your best, and doing your best.
You have to just "go by the institution, with the flow". If you try to dominate, you will perish, and take down the entire RF with you.
I am damn sure Harry will be dreading the prospect of his future wife following this particular aspect of his mother's life.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:36 AM
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I would not exactly say "sacrifice", as many others have put it, but certainly a "smart adapatability" is definitely needed for someone marrying into Royalty, no matter which person or which country.
Because you just "stay so forever", and your are never expected to lose your dignity in public. Unlike celebrities, whose "all sorts of emotions" are excused and even celebrated, royals are expected only and only to smile and wave.
And since there is literally nothing to discuss about their career/growth/policies/ideas/principles, the only talk will be about their relationships.
So the most important thing for them is to show that "EVERYTHING IS OK".
These women marrying into Royalty should always have to definitely put up with some things, whether its their husbands or in-laws. Everything and everyone goes wrong once in a while.
We do not expect all these Mary/Maxima/Letizia/MM et al. are "happily-married-forever"..Each one have their own probs, ranging from simple differences of opinion to ego clashes to infidelities (I am speaking generally).
You cannot shout from roof-tops for everything. You cannot expect your Prince-Hubby to kiss you thrice a day and say he loves you.
But still, you should get on, having your best, and doing your best.
You have to just "go by the institution, with the flow". If you try to dominate, you will perish, and take down the entire RF with you.
I am damn sure Harry will be dreading the prospect of his future wife following this particular aspect of his mother's life.
I agree with most of your post. But when a woman such as Kate faces the invasion of her privacy; the photos in France, the Nurse/DJ tragedy and the commentary on her family in the DM on an almost daily basis (they should just rename it the Daily Middletons), just to name a few, I'd call it sacrifice rather than smart adaptability.
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Hmm, unfortunately the things you have mentioned are "totally unavoidable occupational hazard". Actually no one can help it. And with times it will only get worse and worse and worse..
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:57 AM
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Hmm, unfortunately the things you have mentioned are "totally unavoidable occupational hazard". Actually no one can help it. And with times it will only get worse and worse and worse..
I don't disagree with that!
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:42 PM
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^^^ Would he? He would only have to give up his place in line to the throne not everything else. He could still do visits and support charities. He would still have the famous face and that is what charities need. Right?
Except why would he have to give up just his place in the line of succession? This debate came up not because of Cressida's acceptability to be a potential monarch's consort but because of the constraints that being a member of the BRF puts on Harry when he's looking for a spouse. It hardens back to the idea that the reason why he didn't marry Chelsy is because she didn't want to sacrifice her life (and yes, I think sacrifice is the right word here) in exchange for a very public life with Harry. So the question is not whether or not Harry should renounce his rights to the throne but whether or not he should resign from the BRF - place in the succession and everything else - for love.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:11 PM
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So the question is not whether or not Harry should renounce his rights to the throne but whether or not he should resign from the BRF - place in the succession and everything else - for love.
Just what would that accomplish? Short of moving to Antartica even Captain Harry Windsor would still remain a person of interest to the press, perhaps even more so because of his resignation, so freedom from the press and their intrusions into his private life would not likely decrease. Also how would the woman he gave up everything for be regarded by the public and the press? Not too warmly I would bet, and she would definitely have her every move scrutinized by the press. I still believe that any woman who requires him to give up everything in order to be with her is the wrong woman.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:12 PM
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I don't think Harry should (or will) ever give up his place in the line of succession. I think Harry enjoys being able to help others because of his position. He's very like his mother in that aspect. I understand why Chelsy did not want to sacrifice her life to marry Harry; it is not a life I would ever want for myself, and I think any woman or man who marries an HRH is brave for losing any sort of privacy in their lives. It is a sacrifice, and one not many people are willing to make. Before Sophie, Edward was with actress Ruthie Henshall for a long time but she admits in interviews that she could never have married him as she could not have pursued the career she wanted to. She was not willing to sacrifice her life, which is sad to say.
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We aren't going to speculate on whether or not Harry will give up his place in the line of succession.

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Let's stay on topic...Harry's Relationship Rumours and Musings.
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Honestly, sometimes I think people act like marrying a royal means death or something, but if you love that person all the other stuff will be ok. I mean honestly there are many great things that come with being a royal, but you also can be involved in charities and other things that allow you to include the things you love. Like Kate with art and photography. Life doesn't end. Yes it takes a special kind of person to do it and give up what they thought they wanted or would have in life, but that's life. Most people don't get everything they want in life, actually, no one does and that's ok. The RIGHT person will except the change and challenges because they love Harry. It didn't happen for whatever reason with Chelsy, but it will happen with someone. It's not impossible.
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Honestly, sometimes I think people act like marrying a royal means death or something, but if you love that person all the other stuff will be ok. I mean honestly there are many great things that come with being a royal, but you also can be involved in charities and other things that allow you to include the things you love. Like Kate with art and photography. Life doesn't end. Yes it takes a special kind of person to do it and give up what they thought they wanted or would have in life, but that's life. Most people don't get everything they want in life, actually, no one does and that's ok. The RIGHT person will except the change and challenges because they love Harry. It didn't happen for whatever reason with Chelsy, but it will happen with someone. It's not impossible.


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Old 03-01-2013, 06:53 PM
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Honestly, sometimes I think people act like marrying a royal means death or something, but if you love that person all the other stuff will be ok. I mean honestly there are many great things that come with being a royal, but you also can be involved in charities and other things that allow you to include the things you love. Like Kate with art and photography. Life doesn't end. Yes it takes a special kind of person to do it and give up what they thought they wanted or would have in life, but that's life. Most people don't get everything they want in life, actually, no one does and that's ok. The RIGHT person will except the change and challenges because they love Harry. It didn't happen for whatever reason with Chelsy, but it will happen with someone. It's not impossible.
No necessarily. It isn't challenging to the feelings between the royals concerned but you have to be emotionally and mentally resiliant. And I dont think you or I or any one generally knows what it must be like to have everything you wear, your make-up, hair, voice, deportment, friends, family, education, intelligence, attitude, etc etc picked over every time you step outside of the door. And remember it isnt just you - its your family - what your parents backgrounds are, how they did in school, are they socially acceptable , are they on the make ............. and it goes on.

Love does not conquer all. This is a potentially corrosive environment. Harry got it right when he said it takes time. And judging by the last weeks antics over Cressida, they are not prepared to give that time.

Chelsy Davy watched, investigated (my opinion) considered and said "not for me". And I admire her for that.
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Or it could be that Chelsy and Harry decided mutually that they weren't right for each other. They got together when they were both very young, and they simply could have just grew apart.
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I'm agreeing that it takes a lot of strength, but I don't think the environment should be called corrosive. When the right person comes along, like I said, it will work and they will marry and be happy. I just think some people exaggerated the situation and over complicate.
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I'm agreeing that it takes a lot of strength, but I don't think the environment should be called corrosive. When the right person comes along, like I said, it will work and they will marry and be happy. I just think some people exaggerated the situation and over complicate.
I agree. I have no doubt that when he's ready, Harry will find the right person to share his life with.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Just a disclaimer: I Do Not Know how accurate the Daily Mail's story is, but I shall post nonetheless.

Side Note: I found it incredibly annoying how, at least the Daily Mail, they kept making a big deal about how aristocratic Cressida was and the making digs about how Kate wasn't. Shoot me...

Now there is this bit of information.
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Anyone else read the (gossip rag) reports that Cressida has given Harry 3 months to "prove he's serious"?
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Anyone else read the (gossip rag) reports that Cressida has given Harry 3 months to "prove he's serious"?
Which gossip rags would that be?
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Lumutqueen, here it is:
Prince Harry's Girlfriend Cressida Bonas 'Gives Royal 3 Months To Prove He Wants Her And Only Her' - Celebrity Gossip, News & Photos, Movie Reviews, Competitions - Entertainmentwise
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