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I posted last April when they split that if they reconciled she is The One and they will marry...eventually. But I don't see it happening right away.
You are looking to be right on both points, I think. IF they are back together.

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I have to say both the split and the reconciliation (if there is one) were a surprise to me. I've always imagined that there was a huge explosive row, followed by hurt and angry feelings for the next few months. (They certainly ignored each other at the next music festival they both attended.)
Yes, I agree. Must have been so. Cressida was certainly photographed looking miserable.

Regarding the ignoring each other, isn't that what they always do/did when in public, anyway? As much as I 'like' Cressida (as much as one can like someone one doesn't know in the least) this relationship is an utter mystery to me. They could have actually gotten back together by the time of the music festival.

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I still believe that Guy Pelly introduced Camilla Thurgood into the picture round about the time of the Pelly wedding, but it doesn't seem to have sparked into anything.
Interesting. So that would have explained the intense conversation Cressida is reported to have had with Guy Pelley's wife at a bar (I think) or party.

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IF they are back together then Cressida is probably is indeed The One, bar any more fireworks! It's remarkable how the gossip columnists and so-called royal correspondents don't seem to know for sure what is going on. Their contacts have perhaps buttoned their lips or don't know themselves. We will all just have to wait and see.
I agree. IF they are back together. Going very slow and cautiously, methinks.
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I have to say both the split and the reconciliation (if there is one) were a surprise to me. I've always imagined that there was a huge explosive row, followed by hurt and angry feelings for the next few months. (They certainly ignored each other at the next music festival they both attended.)

I still believe that Guy Pelly introduced Camilla Thurgood into the picture round about the time of the Pelly wedding, but it doesn't seem to have sparked into anything.

IF they are back together then Cressida is probably is indeed The One, bar any more fireworks! It's remarkable how the gossip columnists and so-called royal correspondents don't seem to know for sure what is going on. Their contacts have perhaps buttoned their lips or don't know themselves. We will all just have to wait and see.
I don't know, Prince Harry and Chelsea were on and off for years so the fact that Harry and Cressida may have hooked up again suggests to me that Harry has trouble making a clean break even when he knows she isn't 'the one.' I've known guys to stay with a GF for years doing the on off thing but not committing and then during one of the 'off' times they'll meet 'the one' and whoosh marry her much to the chagrin of the long term on/off GF.
But Prince William and Catherine officially announced their 'amicable' parting and then didn't reveal that they had resumed their relationship a month or two later - so it's hard to say. Harry strikes me as more emotional and impulsive than William, so I don't use the way William did it to predict how Harry will behave.
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Yes, William and Harry are two very different people and have/had very different types as girlfriends.
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Old 10-03-2014, 07:16 AM
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I don't think that Harry behaves the same as William. William and Kate basically hid their relationship. While at St Andrews, they wouldn't hold hands or do anything that would suggest they were together in public. When they went to weddings, they didn't arrive together. That's what made the wedding right before the engagement announcement stand out- they walked right in together not trying to hide anything.

Let's look at the concert for Diana: Chelsy Davy sat right next to Harry and he openly kissed her. Kate who was already back with William sat several rows behind him with her brother James. But apparently, in the after party, W&K were all over each other.

Harry is more heart on his sleeve than William is. I think that is why people have questions about Cressie when all of the photos of them look like most of the time they look like they don't even know each other rather than madly in love. Especially if you compare them to post wedding WK who are not hiding their emotions all the time but are constantly looking at each other and touching.


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It will be good if it is all true (though just why all the games and 'secrecy' I have no idea!) However, where is Mr so-called Daily Beast getting all this info from, especially the many consultations Harry's been having with William? Neither of the brothers would be broadcasting that!
I have a feeling that Cressida is back in the picture all the same.The very much older Harry is playing this romance very differently to the one with Chelsy, much to the disappointment of all his followers, and I don't think we're likely to know much until Harry's ready to go public with Cress again.
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:10 PM
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Harry is more heart on his sleeve than William is. I think that is why people have questions about Cressie when all of the photos of them look like most of the time they look like they don't even know each other rather than madly in love. Especially if you compare them to post wedding WK who are not hiding their emotions all the time but are constantly looking at each other and touching.
True enough!

But you know what? This relationship may present the way it does as a function of who Cressida is. It may be this kind of non-public relationship is what she asks for. We know of Harry romantically in only one other acknowledged relationship, and that was with Chelsy, a very different kind of girl from Cressida. Chelsy is 'out there', boisterous and unambiguous. Their relationship reflected that. Cressida is very different, and it looks like the relationship's affect reflects that.

This article is certainly a spin, telling us 'how it is'. The question will be: who is doing the telling? My wager is on Harry. I know that some will see this as a 'Cressida-side' leak, but I don't see that. What is in this article sounds very much like Harry saying 'I'm sorry' to Cressida and stepping up to the plate to burnish tarnished impressions. This is the way Harry would protect Cressida, in just this way.

Whatever Cressida is, she is Harry's good friend.

Whether it is as stated in the following quote, is not yet clear imo: "A source tells the Royalist that there was no big fuss made when she arrived, and no public displays of affection, but it was as clear a sign to Harry’s inner circle as they are ever likely to get that, for all the doubts in the past and all the problems these two young lovers may face in the future, the relationship with Cressida is very much back on."
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:24 PM
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I personally don't think they are back together because I haven't seen any evidence to prove it. The tabs say they're back on but if they aren't seen in public together over certain amount of time, the tabs will come up with a breakup story. We have been down this road many times before folks.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:29 AM
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It will be good if it is all true (though just why all the games and 'secrecy' I have no idea!)
Maybe it's because they are not sure?

Once they go public, the pressure will be on to announce an engagement. So, they are trying to keep it low-key, until things are settled one way or the other.

(But these on-and-off relationships are aggravating!!)
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I personally don't think they are back together because I haven't seen any evidence to prove it. The tabs say they're back on but if they aren't seen in public together over certain amount of time, the tabs will come up with a breakup story. We have been down this road many times before folks.
The evidence we've been given is that they are definitely friends. Cressida is definitely part of Harry's circle. Whatever more it might be is anybody's guess.

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Maybe it's because they are not sure?
Good point!

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Once they go public, the pressure will be on to announce an engagement. So, they are trying to keep it low-key, until things are settled one way or the other.
Must be hard. They know they like being with each other, but.....

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Old 10-04-2014, 03:01 PM
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I personally don't think they are back together because I haven't seen any evidence to prove it. The tabs say they're back on but if they aren't seen in public together over certain amount of time, the tabs will come up with a breakup story. We have been down this road many times before folks.
It could be either the tabs or Team Cressie. Every time I think she's finally gone off the radar some story about her pops up.
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It could be either the tabs or Team Cressie.
I have noted you saying this a few times. I find it hard to believe that Cressida would have a 'team' promoting her in the tabloids since to come close to doing so would likely put the hex on any relationship with Harry or continued familial ties in aristocratic circles close to royalty. But considering you may right, who would be doing so? What evidence is there that Cressida has a 'team' trying to put her name in the newspapers?

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Every time I think she's finally gone off the radar some story about her pops up.
More a function of the tabloid press, methinks. With Harry without a current and obvious girlfriend, what else are the tabloids to do? An old married couple (William and Kate) aren't interesting in that way anymore.
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Old 10-04-2014, 04:26 PM
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Just to add a different perspective on things, I have thought for a long time now that Harry will suddenly meet someone currently off the radar and have a relatively quick romance rather than a years-long relationship prior to marriage. It'll be a surprise and there will be much debate, but the woman in question will be very different from the people Harry has dated so far and she will be popular.
I'm not normally one to promote the idea of a whirlwind romance and I'm probably very wrong in all this, but it's just a feeling I have.
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Just to add a different perspective on things, I have thought for a long time now that Harry will suddenly meet someone currently off the radar and have a relatively quick romance rather than a years-long relationship prior to marriage. It'll be a surprise and there will be much debate, but the woman in question will be very different from the people Harry has dated so far and she will be popular.
I'm not normally one to promote the idea of a whirlwind romance and I'm probably very wrong in all this, but it's just a feeling I have.

You know, that actually wouldn't surprise me.


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Just to add a different perspective on things, I have thought for a long time now that Harry will suddenly meet someone currently off the radar and have a relatively quick romance rather than a years-long relationship prior to marriage. It'll be a surprise and there will be much debate, but the woman in question will be very different from the people Harry has dated so far and she will be popular.
Also the young woman could have such a perfect upbringing that the press reporters will not be able to find any faults.

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Old 10-04-2014, 09:45 PM
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Maybe it's because they are not sure?

Once they go public, the pressure will be on to announce an engagement. So, they are trying to keep it low-key, until things are settled one way or the other.

(But these on-and-off relationships are aggravating!!)
The thing that makes me laugh is that both the press and forums are endlessly spinning their wheels, round and round and round they go, and where they stop nobody knows!

Point: We know nothing except gossip and not even a single photo to show for all that waffle. Basically, there is nothing in the demeanor of either to lead one to believe they are madly in love or even madly in lust.
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Just to add a different perspective on things, I have thought for a long time now that Harry will suddenly meet someone currently off the radar and have a relatively quick romance rather than a years-long relationship prior to marriage. It'll be a surprise and there will be much debate, but the woman in question will be very different from the people Harry has dated so far and she will be popular.
I'm not normally one to promote the idea of a whirlwind romance and I'm probably very wrong in all this, but it's just a feeling I have.
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You know, that actually wouldn't surprise me.
Hmm, wouldn't that be terrific for Harry. He needs someone who can share his passion and from what I've seen via media, the women of his circle of friends and acquaintances are predominantly modern day Sloan Rangers, having a little work here and a wee dabble there, a punt at a gallery, etc. but nothing that constitutes an actual career. Dilettantes to the nth degree.
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Also the young woman could have such a perfect upbringing that the press reporters will not be able to find any faults.
Well the field is well open on that one. Prince Andrew and Koo Stark were never going to make it, but this is a whole new era and the chances of finding a 30 year old virgin with breeding, intellect and personality are miniscule.

Then again, Prince Carl Philip of Sweden is engaged to marry a woman with a very interesting resume, so I'm guessing anything is possible.
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Point: We know nothing except gossip and not even a single photo to show for all that waffle. Basically, there is nothing in the demeanor of either to lead one to believe they are madly in love or even madly in lust.
They've done enough in public to indicate that the relationship is not platonic, at certain junctures anyway. How deep the relationship goes we may never be allowed to 'see', as in the days of Chelsy Davey. Cressida may be 'the one' with extreme discretion factored in, or just be a 'blind' with her consent. With focus on Cressida, someone else can be courted in private. But I think that's a long-shot. I really don't see allowing someone like Cressida to be the foil. Pretty tacky.

They have probably been advised to keep the relationship totally off the press until (or if) they enter an engagement. The one tid-bit that I'd be inclined to think is true is Harry consulting at length with his brother William. That makes sense. One can guess at William's bias in the direction of ultimate discretion.
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All the photos we ever see is them in a group of people at some music festival or some other event. Have they ever been pictured getting in the same car just the 2 of them?

I don't think hiding everything until an engagement is feasible. The palace isn't ever going to say anything on their private lives. The palace never announced that William is dating Kate but when she is at the garter ceremony and Air Force wings ceremony with William's family you know it's very serious.






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All the photos we ever see is them in a group of people at some music festival or some other event. Have they ever been pictured getting in the same car just the 2 of them?
Not in public, no, which doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. They are not living their relationship in the public eye. That is all.

As for evidence: they hugged on the ski slopes. They have had outings together, dates, but they are never tactile in the way Chelsy was with Harry. They have their secret and Cressida seems perfectly adapted to the scenario as it is playing out. (As said, I have a hunch that what we see is a function of who Cressida is). Still, I do agree, there is an unreality about the purported romance. Yet wasn't it the same way with Felipe and Letizia in Spain? Another royal engagement was also a surprise when it came, can't recall which one it was. So it does happen.

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I don't think hiding everything until an engagement is feasible.
But they seem to be succeeding.

I am going to be the minority in this perhaps, but I think some of the recent article is a 'message' from Harry, not Cressida, and is an indication/proof from Harry to Cressida that he is serious.

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The palace isn't ever going to say anything on their private lives. The palace never announced that William is dating Kate but when she is at the garter ceremony and Air Force wings ceremony with William's family you know it's very serious.
The attendance at events may never happen until Harry and Cressida are engaged. William is the heir. His future wife was bound to be more interesting (and vetted) than the wife of Harry will be. It's possible that the discretion is intentional, intended not to take anything away from William and Kate, who work as well to take nothing away from Charles and Camilla, who in their turn do nothing to take away from the Queen and Prince Philip. Makes sense to me but it's all speculation, of course.

Married to Chelsy and the fannish impression is that Harry and Chelsy would have been a barrel-of-fun couple, reflecting Chelsy's bonhomie and Harry's (supposed) party lifestyle. Married to Cressida, the impression is of a far more discreet and private life lived very much as the third and possibly fourth in-line to the throne. Harry has said he wants his own family now. Cressida may be the one for such a discreet, domestic life.

Anyway, I know nothing of Cressida except her looks and style, both of which I like. She is quite pretty and I think she will be a dazzling beauty as she matures. I love her style and could see it also maturing into interesting by-ways over the years. Somehow she seems the perfect (perhaps eccentric) wife of a second son. I hope they marry because I think she will make a stunning bride, and I am am keen for a marriage. (I also think she is probably a very nice young woman. Can't go wrong with the blessings of Princess Eugenie.)
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