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The cynic in me says Cressida is fanning the flames because she wants to be an actress she has had some work since her split from Harry and got lot's of attention because of him If they were together wouldn't she have been sitting near him? I think she wants people to think they are dating because it get's her work and lot;s of media attention which every actress needs. I think she is really immature and not suited to be a Royal wife at all she would love the parties but I don't thinks she would cope with the duties and the expections of the wife of a Prince. Harry will meet someone when the time is right at the moment I think he is just having fun until she comes along.
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Harry was a lot younger when he was with Chelsy. His dislike of the media has really grown since Las Vegas, in my opinion. There's a certain feeling around that Harry's feelings for Cress aren't kosher because of his demeanour with her in public when they were dating before. Why go back to her, then? It's not as if Harry is starved for female companionship.
I would be tickled if he has gone back to her, mainly because I think she will be a a lot of fun as Harry's wife vis-a-vis fashion. Pretty flimsy reason to marry someone so it's lucky he's not consulting me in the matter.

She's part of his circle, they know each other well, she perhaps is still willing, it's all there. I also think they are possibly suited intellectually. There's something to be said for familiarity and comfort level. Prince Harry is not getting any younger.

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Having said that, I wish the two of them would stop playing games with the media in an effort to not be lapped.
But once it's all 'official' the formality and pressure will be intense. The world will change forever for Cressida. Better 'the game', if that is what it is, I think, than the serious statement. JMO.

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If it works out I think Cressida will be our next duchess.
I think Prince Harry and Cressida will marry in 2015. (We'll see).
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Harry isn't going to jump into a marriage without establishing a strong and stable relationship with somebody. The stakes are too high and it's wouldn't go so well with the royal family and palace officials.

Most importantly, I don't think Harry would do something like that to himself and to a young lady that he really love and care about.

I think marriage is years off for Harry and that's okay. It's better to take the time to find the right one than to settle for anything because he's getting older and the world wants to see him get married.
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Hmm...

That could be an explanation, but at the same time Harry also grew up witnessing the successful relationship of his paternal grandparents and maternal aunts, and his father has been openly in a successful, loving relationship for all of Harry's adult life and most of his teen years.

Plus, William grew up in the same household and is in a long term relationship that seems to be successful. The marriages of Andrew/Sarah and Anne/Mark both ended badly with affairs taking place - Mark even had another child while married to Anne - yet both the York's are in long term relationships and the Phillips seem to have successful marriages.

I have no doubt that his parents' marriage did a number on Harry and has contributed to some of his problems in life, but I think his failure to find the kind of lasting relationship that his brother and cousins seem to have is because of the kind of women he's attracted to. Both Chelsy and Cressida seem to be strong, independent women who, in dating Harry and considering any future with him are giving up a lot - from their privacy to their careers to life as they know it.

That's not to say that Kate isn't a strong, independent woman herself, but rather that she had the advantage of meeting William when she was a lot younger and likely to be more swayed by the glamour of the rich and famous - I think she went into the relationship headfirst and didn't necessarily realize the consequences until she was older and was deeply in love with William - until she had already made a commitment to him. Chelsy on the other hand didn't seem to go in headfirst, which is why they were on-and-off - as much of a love and attraction as they may have had, Chelsy was always aware of the sacrifice and wasn't willing to give it. I wonder if that's part of the problem with Cressida - she might love Harry, but isn't here if she's willing to make the sacrifice, or if she's just not ready for it yet.

Of course, that's pure speculation on my part.
I think that Kate knew the consequences from the beginning. She grew up in the Diana era of media coverage. William is the future King so if you become involved with him, that has to be part of your future to if you want a long term relationship. They just had opportunity being at St Andrews to do the early stuff out of public view so when they got out afterwards, it was a solid foundation.

If you are going to marry someone like William or Harry and join the royal family, you need to be able to give up parts of yourself-your career aspirations and your independence. However, you still need to have enough confidence and determination in yourself to ignore all the outside pressure and criticism.

For Kate, being a wife and mother was probably higher priority than a career somewhere so she was willing to give up the outside freedom for William and now George, Lupo and royal baby. Chelsy didn't want that so she moved on.




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I think Prince Harry and Cressida will marry in 2015. (We'll see).
Even if Harry and Cressida are (or are getting) back together, I don't think they will marry next year. They have to build a stronger relationship and that takes time, especially in their position.
If they will marry, I think it will be in 2016 at the earliest.
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I think that the prospect of a upcoming marriage for Harry is a bit...uh delusional...

IMO I can't see a serious relationship between them. Cressida gives me the vibe of a friend with benefit...
And we are not even sure if they are a "couple" again. Those photos means nothing... They were at the cinema with other friends and we know that she is part of that circle... Plus she has just started a job and wants to be dancer/actress...

I won't believe it until I see it...
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I think that the prospect of a upcoming marriage for Harry is a bit...uh delusional...

IMO I can't see a serious relationship between them. Cressida gives me the vibe of a friend with benefit...
And we are not even sure if they are a "couple" again. Those photos means nothing... They were at the cinema with other friends and we know that she is part of that circle... Plus she has just started a job and wants to be dancer/actress...

I won't believe it until I see it...
I agree with all of this - I've thought they might be friends with benefits, too.

Also, there's the chance it's just Team Cressie who realizes it's been some time Cressie has been in the news.
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Hmm...

That could be an explanation, but at the same time Harry also grew up witnessing the successful relationship of his paternal grandparents and maternal aunts, and his father has been openly in a successful, loving relationship for all of Harry's adult life and most of his teen years.

Plus, William grew up in the same household and is in a long term relationship that seems to be successful. The marriages of Andrew/Sarah and Anne/Mark both ended badly with affairs taking place - Mark even had another child while married to Anne - yet both the York's are in long term relationships and the Phillips seem to have successful marriages.

I have no doubt that his parents' marriage did a number on Harry and has contributed to some of his problems in life, but I think his failure to find the kind of lasting relationship that his brother and cousins seem to have is because of the kind of women he's attracted to. Both Chelsy and Cressida seem to be strong, independent women who, in dating Harry and considering any future with him are giving up a lot - from their privacy to their careers to life as they know it.

That's not to say that Kate isn't a strong, independent woman herself, but rather that she had the advantage of meeting William when she was a lot younger and likely to be more swayed by the glamour of the rich and famous - I think she went into the relationship headfirst and didn't necessarily realize the consequences until she was older and was deeply in love with William - until she had already made a commitment to him. Chelsy on the other hand didn't seem to go in headfirst, which is why they were on-and-off - as much of a love and attraction as they may have had, Chelsy was always aware of the sacrifice and wasn't willing to give it. I wonder if that's part of the problem with Cressida - she might love Harry, but isn't here if she's willing to make the sacrifice, or if she's just not ready for it yet.

Of course, that's pure speculation on my part.
It's your family of origin that ingrains in you what a stable marriage is. This would be Charles and Diana. Why has William followed a different path? Not sure... but he's followed a different path - whether it's a better one remains to be seen.

No, not all kids who grow up in train wrecks are headed for train wrecks themselves, not at all - but a fair percentage do. By the time Harry saw his father's stable marriage to Camilla his formative years were over. As is pointed out, Will seems to be in a stable relationship.

Assuming Harry and Cressie are rekindling (might be Team Cressie's PR at work here)... this seems to follow a similar pattern he had Chelsy - high drama of break ups and make ups - when it became mundane it was boring. At what point does one stop blaming the press and perhaps looking at the parties themselves? This is not to say this is what's going on.. but I suspect it might be. His brother managed to maintain a stable relationship with someone, and the press hardly were disinterested there.
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At what point does one stop blaming the press and perhaps looking at the parties themselves?
Exactly; to grow up out of a trainwreck, you have to take control of your own life. If Harry gets serious and married to her, he had better not blame anyone but himself if Cressida doesn't make him happy in the long run.
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I think that the prospect of a upcoming marriage for Harry is a bit...uh delusional...

IMO I can't see a serious relationship between them. Cressida gives me the vibe of a friend with benefit...
And we are not even sure if they are a "couple" again. Those photos means nothing... They were at the cinema with other friends and we know that she is part of that circle... Plus she has just started a job and wants to be dancer/actress...

I won't believe it until I see it...
I agree. I had high hopes for Cressida at the beginning, but she doesn't seem right for Harry or the role. I want Harry to make a fabulous marriage for his own sake as well as the monarchy.
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I think that the prospect of a upcoming marriage for Harry is a bit...uh delusional...
Ha! The astrology for a marriage in the summer of 2015 is auspicious, though.

It's interesting what posters decide to call out as 'delusional' or get in a snit about (large helicopters vs small, etc). I am learning about TRF. (Though I do hope I don't become catty and a 'street fighter' for the sake of a chat site and a handful of royals I don't know).

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I agree. I had high hopes for Cressida at the beginning, but she doesn't seem right for Harry or the role. I want Harry to make a fabulous marriage for his own sake as well as the monarchy.
I think she is the most unusual 'royal girlfriend' I have seen in some while. She seems totally uninterested in playing the 'role'. She maintains a very low profile. As does her family imo.

Anyway, this is a relationship that has been chugging along for quite a number of years. Harry is unlikely to have the ability to find someone again as young as was Cressida when he started up with her. In many ways, they have 'imprinted' each other, he more her, I think. He may be Cressida's first, really long-term, involvement.

Anyway, I have a hunch - a speculation - that it is Harry who has a hard time letting go. It's in his genes. That can sometimes be a negative, but it can also be a positive. It means he will be loyal in his way. I just hope he isn't keeping her dangling. She's young enough, and possibly inexperienced enough, not to know when to cut her losses and run.
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Just like some have done with Catherine, I am amazed by the amount of 'Cressida bashing'.
There is much assuming here about her motives.
A lot of criticism towards a lady none of us knows.
A bit unfair in my opinion.
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Just like some have done with Catherine, I am amazed by the amount of 'Cressida bashing'.
There is much assuming here about her motives.
A lot of criticism towards a lady none of us knows.
A bit unfair in my opinion.
I agree.

As I said above, she seems totally uninterested in playing 'the role'. She is very unique. The way she dresses indicates that she very much goes her own way. Maybe one has to be that kind of person, oblivious of what others say, to survive a royal romantic connection. She maintains a very low profile imo. As does her family, too, imo.

She has known Harry for quite a number of years. She is part of the inner circle. Harry is unlikely to have the ability to find someone again as young as was Cressida when he started up with her, and from his circle (familiar and comfortable).

It's Cressida who is the vulnerable one here. They've gone so far as to live together. For Cressida she put a lot on the line. Methinks it is Harry who has a hard time letting go. (We've seen that with Chelsy). It's in his genes. That can sometimes be a negative, but it can also be a positive. It means he will be loyal in his way. I just hope he isn't keeping her dangling, or worse, using her because Chelsy has given clear signals that she's moved on. As I said above, Cressida is young enough, and possibly inexperienced enough, not to know when to cut her losses and run.

There is a story that when William and Kate got back together Carole Middleton effectively told William not to mess around. As the mother of a little girl, I can see myself being that protective of my daughter's emotional well-being when the time comes. I hope Cressida has a mother equally protective.
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[QUOTE=Lady Nimue;1704564] Ha! The astrology for a marriage in the summer of 2015 is auspicious, though.

It's interesting what posters decide to call out as 'delusional' or get in a snit about (large helicopters vs small, etc). I am learning about TRF. (Though I do hope I don't become catty and a 'street fighter' for the sake of a chat site and a handful of royals I don't know).

Frankly, most all of royalty speculation is delusional one way or another.




Sorry, my "delusional" was not aiming at you. It's just that IMO this relationship hasn't even started and Harry shouldn't be in a rush for a wedding just because the public and media make pressure on him, or because he is 30!. It's a very big step and as I previously said Cressida's priority (My assumption) doesn't seem marriage now...
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I kind of believe that this time, Harry and Cressida's relationship will end in marriage. After all, William and Catherine broke up for a while when they were dating and got back together again, and life seems to be just fine for them now. I don't think either of them are ready though so I doubt a wedding will take place soon. Cressida seems to be a little young, but I can imagine (but of course don't know for sure as I don't know the couple) that she has matured during the time she was apart from Harry.

After hearing the news that he and Cressida are back together, I've been thinking that perhaps Harry and Camilla Thurlow were 'just friends' and not dating.

I've also never understood the recent fuss about Chelsy - I think that she is 'long gone' now and IIRC is engaged to Charles someone (forgot his surname).
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I kind of believe that this time, Harry and Cressida's relationship will end in marriage. After all, William and Catherine broke up for a while when they were dating and got back together again, and life seems to be just fine for them now.
I hear you but I think to compare the couples is apples and oranges.

Harry and Chelsea met as a working guy and a collegiate gal. They have not lived together. They were introduced as a fix up. (all this as far as we know).

Wills and Kate met as friends at college. Roomed and then lived together. Graduated and got lives and jobs. Lived together then got married.

I also think when you look at personalities, Will and Kate are dull in a good way. Harry and Cressida are not, though she likes her spotlight professionally, while he just seems to like his public role.

All of them act fairly unhappy when the paps attack their private time.

In short, though, because the Cambridges got back together and seem to be a hit, it's not reason to think that works for different kinds of people.
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Sorry, my "delusional" was not aiming at you. . It's just that IMO this relationship hasn't even started and Harry shouldn't be in a rush for a wedding just because the public and media make pressure on him, or because he is 30!. It's a very big step and as I previously said Cressida's priority (My assumption) doesn't seem marriage now...
I agree. It's a relationship that feels nebulous. Nothing like William and Kate's. I half suspect it's being done this way to protect Cressida.

I think we see the relationship this way - as hardly started - because they have kept it out of the limelight in a particular kind of way and on purpose for a long time. They are playing by an agreed upon set of rules for themselves that we are not privy to but which we can deduce from their actions. They give 'just enough' (sharing digs at KP - or was it BP? - for example) to let us know they are a couple but no more. They are definitely not 'official'.

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I kind of believe that this time, Harry and Cressida's relationship will end in marriage. After all, William and Catherine broke up for a while when they were dating and got back together again, and life seems to be just fine for them now. I don't think either of them are ready though so I doubt a wedding will take place soon. Cressida seems to be a little young, but I can imagine (but of course don't know for sure as I don't know the couple) that she has matured during the time she was apart from Harry.
She has always come across as very ethereal, very young. Family members when interviewed have referenced that. I think there is a concern about her - probably rightly so. At 22 when she started up with Harry she was likely more adolescent still than most. If they have gotten back together - if they have - then I think it's more certain. They would not be starting from 'year one'. There must be serious conversations afoot.

Perhaps it will be like Letizia of Spain - a surprise when Harry makes his announcement.

Anyway, it strikes me as very in keeping with Harry's time of life. At recent events where the three of them appear - William, Kate and Harry - Harry is deferring to his brother (as is protocol, I would guess) and is looking more and more like a 3rd wheel. Life is moving on for William. It would not be too far afield to speculate that perhaps Harry realizes that he is ready for his own family and is identifying who is familiar and comfortable for the long haul. If Cressida didn't fit the bill, why would he re-connect with her? Wouldn't that be cruel?

We'll find out, I guess. It's all surmise at this point.
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Harry said a couple or so years ago that he was ready to have a family etc....he said something about trying to find the right girl to take all 'this' on (media etc)
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I think that it's ben some time now (probably since William married, as he talked about it in the interview he gave on his jubilee tour) that Harry wants to settle down, marry and have children. But he hasn't found THE woman, one that he loves and is willing to marry him, with all it entails. And that probably makes him quite depressed and lowers even more his self-steem. I never thought Cressida was the one. He never seemed to be in love with her. She was a girl who was a the right place at the right time. She's part of his set and is willing to play this game (she and her family never convinced me that she doesn't like this all of fame, etc). They also seem to push things a bit. I don't know why they split back in April/May but Harry never seemed very sad about it. They might be back but it seems to me, once again, that he might be back to her not because he loves her but because he was alone (things with that Camilla probably didn't turn out as he wanted) and entered again that period when he thinks he'll never find a girl. Cressida is there, willing to have hiim back. It's the easy way for him.
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Harry's got everything going for him so he'll find the right girl for him. Perhaps he should venture outside his group of friends. What's he's used to is something familiar and someone who is known (to his friends and family) and who can very easily fit in. She may be out there somewhere and looking for a person like him too. It's about getting out and exploring.
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