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Old 10-01-2017, 01:19 AM
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I think in this case, perception would be everything and I would not risk unfortunate conclusions being born since Meghan would be the "first".

The Daily Fail and it's supporters would have a field day if a smaller wedding and venue were chosen and a less "important" wedding will always be talked about and whispered about. Not a good look or start for Meghan and Harry, who have unique set of circumstances re their wedding.
I agree - just not sure HMQ would consider that enough to avoid the drama from having the bigger blowout event - the security costs would be difficult. Although I think the crowd turnout would be massive though. Security would be expensive either way.

I'm hoping for the bigger event (not a blowout) but I don't want to see it be "small" in the crowd sense - but tasteful. It can't be bigger than Wil&Kate's - that would bring criticism.

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When I mentioned security I wasn't talking so much about the detractors but real threats to the safety of the public and the event.

Given the terrorist threats in London this year alone it would make sense to not add to those situations if at all possible so Windsor makes more sense as control to the grounds it controlled and that has to be a consideration.
I hear you - but the terrorists haven't been attacking major targets - they've been driving cars into people. My guess is that they will need to shut down streets, etc.. to prevent those kinds of attacks because otherwise people would be in danger.

There are going to be massive crowds - they'll need a huge perimeter. One could argue that by NOT planning for a larger event, they put more people in danger because more people would be exposed in areas not covered by security.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:22 AM
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I think there will be huge interest in this event-the world's most eligible bachelor marries to a biracial American woman. I think there will be massive media interest, although I could be wrong.

I see and hope for a bigger wedding.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:23 AM
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@Osipi, you seem so set on St. George's Chapel, Windsor. I'm really not sure what you see about it besides security that enamors you so much. Apparently, there are other possible choices in London too, aside from WA.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:44 AM
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@Osipi, you seem so set on St. George's Chapel, Windsor. I'm really not sure what you see about it besides security that enamors you so much. Apparently, there are other possible choices in London too, aside from WA.

I'm going to settle on waiting for the engagement announcement with bated breath. And in the interim, another sighting of Meghan and Harry together in public.
For myself, I really liked the intimacy and calmness of Edward's and Sophie's wedding. Plus they were so obviously in love. I liked everything about it. Something like that (doesn't have to be that exactly) seems appealing to me. Winter wedding, too. But that's just me. [Wouldn't a winter wedding at Balmoral be amazing!]
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:51 AM
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I would like Westminster Abbey for the wedding.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:03 AM
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Those in London used in the past 200 years include:

The Chapel Royal at St James - where Queen Victoria, the Empress Frederick, George V, the late Duke of Gloucester

Westminster Abbey - George VI, Elizabeth II, Princesses Mary, Margaret, Anne, Alexandra, the late Duke of Kent, the Duke of York among others.

St Paul's Cathedral - Charles

Other possibilities:

St Margaret's - next to Westminster Abbey - smaller and more intimate than the great abbey. This is where the late Earl Mountbatten was married in 1922.

There are other smaller churches e.g. St Martin's in the Field - not far from BP and the official parish church taking in BP. Queen Mary used to worship there on occasions.

He could choose a place not chosen before e.g. Southwark Cathedral.
St. George's Chapel is tiny - I think it's too small. Much much too small. Yikes it's tiny.

St. Margarets is nice - but if it's right next to the Abbey, it makes no sense not to use the Abbey.

I would love an Abbey wedding or St. Paul's Cathedral - wow what a venue. I think St. Paul's is my favorite. Wow.

That way, each son gets a piece of their mother: Wil gives Kate the ring, Harry marries where his mother did.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:07 AM
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I don't think 'public opinion' will have much impact on the size of the wedding. How do you measure 'public opinion'? It won't be bigger than Kate and William's, but that was so huge, that to downsize from that doesn't mean small by any means. Security will be enormous regardless, there's no way out of that. At this point imho, a deranged 'fan' might be a bigger threat than a terrorist attack for this wedding.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:13 AM
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So - what dictates what Harry wears when he marries? He has a military uniform, right? Or garment?

William had a red uniform when he married - it wasn't the blue of his RAF uniform, right?

What might Harry choose? What choices does he have - and do people think he'd wear the black one he wore at William's wedding or something else?
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:15 AM
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Re what Harry will wear, good question!
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:21 AM
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William was a serving officer in the RAF at the time of his wedding and the Honorary Colonel of the Irish Guards and thus was married in the latter's uniform.

Harry, although he has quit the army, like the rest of the BRF will continue to receive unearned promotions as if he was still in the army. He will probably wear the uniform of a Captain or Major - whatever rank he holds at the time of his marriage, whenever that may be, in the Blues and Royals uniform as that is the regiment he belongs to - Anne is the Colonel of that regiment.

HM may given him some other honorary colonel's position - if one becomes vacant - before his wedding, just as she may choose to give him a substantive title.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:28 AM
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William was a serving officer in the RAF at the time of his wedding and the Honorary Colonel of the Irish Guards and thus was married in the latter's uniform.

Harry, although he has quit the army, like the rest of the BRF will continue to receive unearned promotions as if he was still in the army. He will probably wear the uniform of a Captain or Major - whatever rank he holds at the time of his marriage, whenever that may be, in the Blues and Royals uniform as that is the regiment he belongs to - Anne is the Colonel of that regiment.

HM may given him some other honorary colonel's position - if one becomes vacant - before his wedding, just as she may choose to give him a substantive title.
Huh. This is fascinating.

What goes into announcing a royal engagement? Do they take engagement pictures beforehand and then release them with the announcement? Do they already know when a wedding would take place and where when they make the announcement?
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:36 AM
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Engagement pics are released after the announcement.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:46 AM
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I would love an Abbey wedding or St. Paul's Cathedral - wow what a venue. I think St. Paul's is my favorite. Wow.

That way, each son gets a piece of their mother: Wil gives Kate the ring, Harry marries where his mother did.
Of all the possible locations for a Harry wedding, St Paul's Cathedral is the one I would say has next to no chance of being used. If the wedding of the heir of the Prince of Wales (William, a future King) was not held there, the wedding of the Prince of Wales' younger son definitely won't be.

St Paul's Cathedral was selected for Charles and Diana's wedding mostly because it allowed for a larger amount of seating so more guests could attend the actual ceremony (around 3,500). Harry's wedding will not see anywhere near that amount.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:49 AM
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Of all the possible locations for a Harry wedding, St Paul's Cathedral is the one I would say has next to no chance of being used. If the wedding of the heir of the Prince of Wales (William, a future King) was not held there, the wedding of the Prince of Wales' younger son definitely won't be.

St Paul's Cathedral was selected for Charles and Diana's wedding mostly because it allowed for a larger amount of seating so more guests could attend the actual ceremony (around 3,500). Harry's wedding will not see anywhere near that amount.
I didn't realize it was that big... but you are likely right. It's just soooo gorgeous.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:51 AM
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St. George's Chapel is tiny - I think it's too small. Much much too small. Yikes it's tiny.

St. Margarets is nice - but if it's right next to the Abbey, it makes no sense not to use the Abbey.

I would love an Abbey wedding or St. Paul's Cathedral - wow what a venue. I think St. Paul's is my favorite. Wow.

That way, each son gets a piece of their mother: Wil gives Kate the ring, Harry marries where his mother did.
Tiny It seats eight hundred people.

William and Kate did not choose not to invite heads of state like the Obamas. They would never have been invited. As William was not heir to the throne, his wedding was not a state event. So no foreign heads of state. The only foreign government were commonwealth countries.

Harry's wedding will be naturally quite a bit smaller then his brother's. Oddly he could have a few politicians, but as personal guests.

St Pauls there is no way. St Pauls was too big for William and Kates. The cathedral seats 3500 people. 1500 more then Westminster. Not going to use a cathedral that large for a smaller royal wedding. Next time it will be used is if George is heir to throne when he marries, possibly.
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Well, reportedly Will and Kate preferred not to invite some persons on the original list. Yes, I'm aware that persons representing Commonwealth countries were generally included, excluding foreign heads of state. The Obamas were invited to a state dinner the following month after the wedding by QE II. And later the Obamas got to know Will & Kate on a personal level. They hadn't met prior to W&K's wedding.

And yes, knowing the seating capacity of each venue is eye-opening and offers a bit of perspective. I had compared seating capacity between St. Paul's Cathedral, St. George's Chapel, and Westminster Abbey, and I immediately realized that St. Paul's is out of the question/ out of the running. Too huge, and as has been mentioned, Harry's wedding will not be grander than his older brother's.

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... Which leads me to my next set of questions:

What goes into announcing a royal engagement? Do they take engagement pictures beforehand and then release them with the announcement? Do they already know when a wedding would take place and where when they make the announcement?
It will transpire similar to the engagement announcement of Will & Kate I would think. The press were called to gather; Kate and William walked out into a room at KP I believe and answered press questions. An announcement was made prior to their walking out to answer questions. Kate was wearing her engagement ring (Diana's former engagement ring) for the first time publicly.

After the press gathering, Kate and William were interviewed by a BBC reporter with whom William was well-acquainted and comfortable being around. The public got to hear Kate's speaking voice for the first time. Unusually for a royal girlfriend, that will not be the case with Meghan, due to her already familiar public profile as an actor on a television series.
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Old 10-01-2017, 03:06 AM
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I thought William and Kate met the press at BP?

I wonder who will take the engagement pics and the formal wedding pics?
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I thought William and Kate met the press at BP?

I wonder who will take the engagement pics of Meghan and Harry and the formal wedding pics?
^^ It could have been at BP. I didn't look it up for confirmation.

The BBC interview with Will & Kate was about 17+ minutes.

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I looked it up: Clarence House released the engagement announcement due to Prince Charles being William's father. The photo call with Will & Kate took place at St. James' Palace.
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After hearing what Harry said recently about his brother marrying where his mother's funeral was...that Diana's presence was there, and he seemed to think that was great...I fully expect him to marry at Westminster. It will surprise me if he doesn't.

I expect him to marry in his military uniform.


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After hearing what Harry said recently about his brother marrying where his mother's funeral was...that Diana's presence was there, and he seemed to think that was great...I fully expect him to marry at Westminster. It will surprise me if he doesn't.

I expect him to marry in his military uniform. I expect Meghan to use a British dress designer ...although there is an outside chance she could go American or Canadian. She will not do anything fashion forward or cutting edge. She will respect the tradition of the BRF by wearing something more conservative.


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I wasn't aware of the comments Harry made about feeling Diana's presence at the Abbey when Wil married Kate - do you have a link? That does seems to push this toward the Abbey though - just smaller and more low key? Wil and Kate used trees when they married - not sure how much more low key they could get there, lol. Flowers would almost seem more grand.

And I agree that Meghan will be conservative with her wedding day garb (should there be a wedding - I'm almost afraid I'll jinx it!). And likely a British designer - but maybe a collaboration with a British and an American designer? Perhaps in terms of style or sentimental details worked into the gown?
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