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Old 10-28-2017, 01:03 PM
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One sure thing is that his best man, or supporter as royal groomsmen are called, will undoubtedly be William. Then we wonder what he would wear. I wonder, if he marries Meghan (yes I know they aren't engaged yet, but I believe it's only a matter of time), who the bridesmaids would be. Don't they usually have mostly little girls nowadays with maybe one adult? Does Meghan have a close female friend perhaps from Suits? I heard she doesn't get on with her half sister. She could have any of the Queen's great granddaughters as the little bridesmaids/flower girls. Zara's daughter, Peter and Autumn's, or Princess Charlotte. Would her father walk her down the aisle? (I don't like the term given away, it smacks of the bride being property, as indeed at one time she was). I could see Meghan's mum walking her down. My sister-in-law had my mother-in-law walk her down the aisle.

Oh and just a FYI for the American forum members. Hope I don't offend anyone, but I don't want people to think the term is disrespectful, because it is the term used. Somebody mentioned that Meghan is biracial. In the UK the term generally used is mixed race. It's just a national difference, like in Britain we say black, not African American. Nobody means anything nasty if you hear that. It is the official term used for example on job application forms for equal opportunities monitoring.
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:17 PM
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Oh and just a FYI for the American forum members. Hope I don't offend anyone, but I don't want people to think the term is disrespectful, because it is the term used. Somebody mentioned that Meghan is biracial. In the UK the term generally used is mixed race. It's just a national difference, like in Britain we say black, not African American. Nobody means anything nasty if you hear that. It is the official term used for example on job application forms for equal opportunities monitoring.
Thanks, Princess Squirrel, for that information. I did not know that. None of those terms though are offensive in the least to me. Its just a difference between English and American speech. We say elevator and its lift in the UK. We have trunks on cars, you have boots. To be honest, I actually like the expression "going to the loo" better and I'd much rather hear "chatting up the birds" rather than "chasing chicks".

With all of us waiting with baited breath for an engagement announcement, sometimes knowing these little tidbits help immensely because if we think this thread is crazy now, its going to get even wilder as more and more people are drawn into a discussion here.
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:18 PM
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One sure thing is that his best man, or supporter as royal groomsmen are called, will undoubtedly be William. Then we wonder what he would wear. I wonder, if he marries Meghan (yes I know they aren't engaged yet, but I believe it's only a matter of time), who the bridesmaids would be. Don't they usually have mostly little girls nowadays with maybe one adult? Does Meghan have a close female friend perhaps from Suits? I heard she doesn't get on with her half sister. She could have any of the Queen's great granddaughters as the little bridesmaids/flower girls. Zara's daughter, Peter and Autumn's, or Princess Charlotte. Would her father walk her down the aisle? (I don't like the term given away, it smacks of the bride being property, as indeed at one time she was). I could see Meghan's mum walking her down. My sister-in-law had my mother-in-law walk her down the aisle.
Why would she have her mother walk her down Usually you only have that if your dad is dead, or you don't have a relationship with him. She is said to be very close to her father so I see no reason he wouldn't get to.

Meghan has plenty of adult friends. Jessica Mulroney who is her friend as well as stylist. Lindsay Roth who she met when they were in University together. Heather Dorak. Benita Litt whose daughters seem to be Meghan's godchildren. Then there are celebrities like Serena Williams and Priyanka Chopra that she is friends with.

As for children there are plenty to choose from. I'd think, or at least hope, at least half the kids would come from her side. She has 2 goddaughters. The Mulroneys have 3 small kids who is close to (pics of her and Isabel on her Instagram page). But yes George and Charlotte, and other kids on Harry's side are likely. Harry has his own godchildren.
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:21 PM
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One other thought and I've seen it happen at weddings where the parents are divorced is that both the mother and the father walk their daughter down the aisle. I like it because it gets away from, as you've said, the "giving away the bride" as a possession thing which is anachronistic.
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:24 PM
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insisting on that red tunic. It stood out
I'm afraid I disagree, in the kaleidoscope of colour in the Abbey that Day [especially the Reds of other Military dress uniforms], the sombre but elegant Black would have been particularly visible and striking..

But as you say, at least it wasn't the Navy suit...
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:25 PM
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Good to know there are plenty of candidates. Glad I am not the one who has to choose lol. We had 20 guests at our wedding. Much easier that way. Harry and Meghan have no choice but to have a big wedding (yes even St George's is a big wedding, when you think to most people 150 is fairly big/normal!)
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:37 PM
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One sure thing is that his best man, or supporter as royal groomsmen are called, will undoubtedly be William. Then we wonder what he would wear. I wonder, if he marries Meghan (yes I know they aren't engaged yet, but I believe it's only a matter of time), who the bridesmaids would be. Don't they usually have mostly little girls nowadays with maybe one adult? Does Meghan have a close female friend perhaps from Suits? I heard she doesn't get on with her half sister. She could have any of the Queen's great granddaughters as the little bridesmaids/flower girls. Zara's daughter, Peter and Autumn's, or Princess Charlotte. Would her father walk her down the aisle? (I don't like the term given away, it smacks of the bride being property, as indeed at one time she was). I could see Meghan's mum walking her down. My sister-in-law had my mother-in-law walk her down the aisle.
Meghan has a good relationship with both her parents. I know in some weddings both parents walk the bride down the aisle but I don't know if they'd do that--I think it would be her father.
It seems to be all over the place as far as the makeup of bride's attendants when I looked at various weddings. I think we'll get whatever Meghan & Harry want.
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Old 10-28-2017, 02:55 PM
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Another venue question-would the chapel at Sandhurst be large enough?
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:17 PM
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Another venue question-would the chapel at Sandhurst be large enough?
"In 1965 the Chapel was accorded the title of Royal Memorial Chapel, Sandhurst. In contemporary times, whilst its main function remains as the Academy's Chapel, as a Royal Chapel, and seating over 1000 people, it is, with the exception of Westminster Abbey and St George's Chapel, Windsor, the largest of all the Royal Chapels."

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Old 10-28-2017, 03:18 PM
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Thanks. That’s certainly a possibility?
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:46 PM
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Actually, I think the Queen knew what she was doing insisting on that red tunic. It stood out. You knew where William was. It looked so good on him. It was impressive. William and Harry together just looked so dapper and refined as they headed up the aisle together and the red was such a contrast next to Kate's pure white.

It could have been so much worse. William could have insisted on wearing his ever faithful blue suit.
It stood out, but not in a positive way. I felt that William drowned in that red tunic. And Harry looked like a deer caught in the headlights, he seemed so nervous and he wasn't the one who was marrying

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I'm afraid I disagree, in the kaleidoscope of colour in the Abbey that Day [especially the Reds of other Military dress uniforms], the sombre but elegant Black would have been particularly visible and striking..

But as you say, at least it wasn't the Navy suit...
Exactly. I, though, had hoped for William to wear his RAF suit but instead he turned up in this awful scarlet red tunic. At the time I already thought that it looked like he had obeyed an order instead of really wanting to wear it himself, and so it apparently was - he did not appear to look very comfortable in it. It also clashed immensely with the interior of the Abbey and also did not match at all with Catherine's wedding gown. A BIG MISS.
For the record: I also disliked the tunic on Captain Mark Phillips. It hurts the eyes.

At least he wore his Army suit when they were in the Aston Martin, that suited him much better.

When Harry marries, I hope he will wear a uniform that suits him.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:11 PM
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Yes it's certainly going to be interesting how far Meghan, as an American, will be expected to adapt her preconceptions of weddings to the British (as well as BRF) customs.

Though I'm no expert, I do know a little bit about it, being a British woman married to an American. For example, in the US, the bridesmaids come down the aisle ahead of the bride, so that everybody's main focus is the bride. In the UK of course, the bridesmaids follow the bride, holding the train etc. Do Canadians follow the US or UK tradition? I wonder in what order they had the procession with Autumn Phillips?

Another one I was surprised at the first time I attended an American wedding was that only the best man made a speech. We also get a speech from the father of the bride, and the groom. At my wedding I spoke too lol!

As for bridal showers and rehearsal dinners, we don't have these. We have a hen night (bachelorette party) and a stag party (bachelor party), though a lot of hens and stags make a whole mini break of it these days, like a last holiday as a singleton. City breaks are very popular (especially Brighton), either in the UK itself, or abroad.

Maybe Meghan and Prince Harry could arrange their own rehearsal dinner, exactly how they want it, with just their close friends and family. As it's nothing official, they can absolutely please themselves, and good for them if they do.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:22 PM
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Yes it's certainly going to be interesting how far Meghan, as an American, will be expected to adapt her preconceptions of weddings to the British (as well as BRF) customs.

Though I'm no expert, I do know a little bit about it, being a British woman married to an American. For example, in the US, the bridesmaids come down the aisle ahead of the bride, so that everybody's main focus is the bride. In the UK of course, the bridesmaids follow the bride, holding the train etc. Do Canadians follow the US or UK tradition? I wonder in what order they had the procession with Autumn Phillips?

Another one I was surprised at the first time I attended an American wedding was that only the best man made a speech. We also get a speech from the father of the bride, and the groom. At my wedding I spoke too lol!

As for bridal showers and rehearsal dinners, we don't have these. We have a hen night (bachelorette party) and a stag party (bachelor party), though a lot of hens and stags make a whole mini break of it these days, like a last holiday as a singleton. City breaks are very popular (especially Brighton), either in the UK itself, or abroad.

Maybe Meghan and Prince Harry could arrange their own rehearsal dinner, exactly how they want it, with just their close friends and family. As it's nothing official, they can absolutely please themselves, and good for them if they do.
I could see Meghan's friends in the US or Toronto doing a shower for her.

As for a rehearsal dinner they could certainly organize it themselves. Especially since I expect there will be so many out of town guests from the US and Canada. Bringing up Zara again, she and Mike had a cocktail party on a yacht the night before their wedding.
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Old 10-28-2017, 05:38 PM
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Another one I was surprised at the first time I attended an American wedding was that only the best man made a speech. We also get a speech from the father of the bride, and the groom. At my wedding I spoke too lol!
That not an American thing, that's more of a personal preference or social group thing. I've been to a number of weddings where much of the bridal party gave speeches at the reception.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:33 PM
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Princess Squirrel thanks for sharing your British/American wedding experience. I find that fascinating.

My gut says that Meghan and Harry's wedding ceremony will follow the previous BRF templates. I could see them adding a personal touch here and there, a special reading, etc., but the big things will probably look much like Kate and William's.

I think where they'd really be able to show their individuality is at the reception. That I expect to be a nice mix of British and American customs. But of course we won't get to see that!
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Choice is so the right word. Of course certain protocols in a royal wedding should be respected but if Meghan wanted to walk down the aisle alone, oh well, her choice. Today is much different. Funny, right now, my daughter is planning her wedding. I always tell her, “it’s your choice”. Every little girl dreams of this day.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:45 PM
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How did William's uniform not match with Catherine's wedding gown? It was a very traditional wedding dress and veil--anything formal would go with it.
I think scarlet red and white clash - similar to that trend a few years back that a bride carried a bouquet of dark red roses. Really? DARK RED? Who in his right mind thinks of that? Doesn't suit at all. And neither does scarlet red.

A dark uniform would have been much better. I still think it's a pity that he didn't wear his RAF uniform.
At least he went in dark in the Aston Martin.

I hope that Harry won't have to go into that territory.
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I've deleted quite a few off-topic posts - feminism, titles for Harry's wife and comparisons to other royal brides. Let's keep the thread on Harry's future wedding, please. Also if you wish to discuss the jewelry and tiaras Harry's wife will wear, take it to the Tiaras and Jewels for Prince Harry's future wife thread.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:13 PM
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Pre-wedding parties/dinners don't seem to be unusual; just slightly different from an American 'rehearsal dinner' I suppose. Mike and Zara had theirs on the Britannia. And I've also seen pictures of guests attending a pre-wedding party/dinner on the eve of William and Catherine's wedding (including a few who did not attend the wedding itself, if I remember it correctly). However, William and Catherine weren't present themselves. It was the Queen who hosted.

So, I am sure there will be some kind of pre-wedding dinner/party for Harry and his bride. As there will be a smaller number of royal guests than at his brother's wedding, I expect they will have a little more leeway in the exact form it will take. Important question will be whether a pre-wedding-dinner needs to be organized for attending royals (hosted by the Queen or the Prince of Wales?) or that they can forgo that and just have their own pre-wedding event.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:17 PM
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Yes it's certainly going to be interesting how far Meghan, as an American, will be expected to adapt her preconceptions of weddings to the British (as well as BRF) customs.

Though I'm no expert, I do know a little bit about it, being a British woman married to an American. For example, in the US, the bridesmaids come down the aisle ahead of the bride, so that everybody's main focus is the bride. In the UK of course, the bridesmaids follow the bride, holding the train etc. Do Canadians follow the US or UK tradition? I wonder in what order they had the procession with Autumn Phillips?

Another one I was surprised at the first time I attended an American wedding was that only the best man made a speech. We also get a speech from the father of the bride, and the groom. At my wedding I spoke too lol!

As for bridal showers and rehearsal dinners, we don't have these. We have a hen night (bachelorette party) and a stag party (bachelor party), though a lot of hens and stags make a whole mini break of it these days, like a last holiday as a singleton. City breaks are very popular (especially Brighton), either in the UK itself, or abroad.

Maybe Meghan and Prince Harry could arrange their own rehearsal dinner, exactly how they want it, with just their close friends and family. As it's nothing official, they can absolutely please themselves, and good for them if they do.
I wouldn't call it 'following the American thing', but yes our bridesmaids go ahead. If the bride actually has a train long enough needing aid sorting it out, someone at the back like a wedding planner, or who opens the doors into the church, usually straightens for her.

The british royals do have a dinner the night before the wedding. Though the bridal couple rarely attends. Its usually for the out of town vip guests. And of course there is a practice at the church for the wedding. Rehersal dinners, at least in Canada, are not some big formal event. Or not always. Very often it is just out of simple necessity. It is usually the immediate family, and those involved in the wedding. After they spend the day practicing at the church, and if the family does DIY to save money, helping get church ready, they feed their helpers. Been maid of honor twice. Once we had a bbq at the family house and after dinner the minister (her uncle) sat down and went over details as he had been unable to attend the earlier practices. The other we had some take out bbq food at the church after rehersing, and after spending hours getting the reception ready as they had a small budget.
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