Prince Harry Current Events 26: January 2012-April 2013

[llj]

As the married, adult daughter of two parents who married quite a few times between them, all it's done for me is show me first hand the pitfalls and traps couples can fall into. In fact, it's given me a pretty good primer on what not to do. I hope that Harry and William feel the same way - as a "divorced kid," the thought of getting a divorce myself is pretty much the most horrifying outcome I could ever imagine.
To bring it back to Cressida, from what I can tell her family is extremely close despite the various marital difficulties. Her mother has maintained a friendly relationship with her second husband, John Anstruther-Gough-Calthrope (at least they've appeared in pictures together). Gabriella Anstruther-Gough-Calthrope (Gabriella "Wilde") stated in an old interview that even though she and Cressida aren't sisters, they did grow up together and were close. And her two oldest sisters are both married with children - hopefully they can provide examples of loving, stable relationships through good and bad times.

 

[vkrish]

Her parents' many marriages have probably shown Cressida what not to do when it comes to romantic relationships. It'll likely make her more cautious about making the ultimate commitment, which will do her no harm.

I like your optimism and hope it comes true. But learning why to go and why not to go in a relationship is different, and having a solid family support is different.
These people (marrying into RF) should have a solid support. In broken marriages usually kids become the "rock" for parents, instead of being the other way. (Diana said Will was her rock, Fergie still has Bea and Eug givin emotional support to her). I believe only if they have strong emotional "rocks" in their parents and their siblings, they will be able to tolerate such pressures.
One more thing:
You cannot always say, "So what Harry will be her rock"
In these marriages, there is no difference between public/private lives and family/profession. Everything is combined. Sometimes she and Harry may feel the same stress at the same time. Sometimes "situations" may pit them against each other, challenging their egos.
See what happend when the Queen was newly crowned. Prince Philip was so undermined by everyone, he was hurt (everything done in Queen's name) and still the Queen was helpless.
Similarly Diana's grace and photogenic beauty was pitted against Charles' sense of duty and innovative leadership. Thus inevitably some situations arise where the spouse definitely needs her family, not "close friends" to help them move on the situation without hurting the marriage.
Thats my point. But maybe Cressida wont have that much pressure that Kate faces/yet to face..

 

[vkrish]

And by the way, dear mods, there is a very intersting discussion going on in this thread. But I am afraid this is not exactly the right place. But still there are so many 'leads' in these posts that people are continuing.
So why dont you consider moving all these posts to "potential wife for Prince Harry" thread or the new "Prince Harry relationship musings" thread started today itself..

 

[cepe]

Yes, he could have, you're absolutely right.

But why on earth would he want people to know about it? Did he not say at this last interview, or a fairly recent interview that while he wanted a wife and children, he felt no woman would want the position given the press attention. So why put a brand new relationship in full view of the paps - what worse way to put a damper on a budding relationship. Especially one where he knew that the young lady's mother has had four marriages, the father two, photogenic, It Girl siblings everywhere, and a sister who Will allegedly had a crush on. He just gave the tabloids red meat.

So why give the press this information, and display this relationship in full view? Could it be that the tabloid reports that Harry was rebuked by Ms. Bonas while in Afghanistan wounded his pride? In which case his decision to put this new relationship out in full view was to assuage his pride at the expense of Ms. Bonas' privacy and her family's privacy.

I was quite shocked by this comment because it paints the picture of a really unpleasant man. And that doesn't seem like Harry IMO. He may be immature as far as relationships go, but I wouldn't have thought him capable of something this nasty.

 

[Ish]

And by the way, dear mods, there is a very intersting discussion going on in this thread. But I am afraid this is not exactly the right place. But still there are so many 'leads' in these posts that people are continuing.
So why dont you consider moving all these posts to "potential wife for Prince Harry" thread or the new "Prince Harry relationship musings" thread started today itself..

I wouldn't necessarily say that the discussion is off topic. It could fit in elsewhere, but the discussion started when Harry was photographed on a vacation - that's all kind of current. It's speculation about what something that just happens means.

 

[Avicenna]

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Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe:

But why on earth would he want people to know about it? Did he not say at this last interview, or a fairly recent interview that while he wanted a wife and children, he felt no woman would want the position given the press attention. So why put a brand new relationship in full view of the paps - what worse way to put a damper on a budding relationship. Especially one where he knew that the young lady's mother has had four marriages, the father two, photogenic, It Girl siblings everywhere, and a sister who Will allegedly had a crush on. He just gave the tabloids red meat.


Did he?

From my point of view it always takes two. And reading in the Daily Mail, how the young lady behaved in the restaurant where the birthday of Harry's uncle was celebrated does not give me the impression of a discreet person. In fact I would consider her behaviour outright impolite.

Quote of the Daily Mail:
But fellow diners in the wee small hours at the Pot Luck Club restaurant in the resort’s Farinet Hotel were entertained by the sight of the Prince bouncing the 24-year-old blonde model and would-be actress on his knee.
The pair were said to have ‘kissed like love-struck teenagers in the back of a cinema’.
The other end of the same table was an altogether more sober affair. Harry’s uncle, Prince Andrew, whose 53rd birthday on Tuesday they were celebrating, sat with his ex-wife, Sarah, Duchess of York, and their two daughters, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie

Prince Harry and Cressida Bonas 'kissing like teens' in restaurant during Swiss ski holiday | Mail Online

 

[Anna Catherine]

Or...maybe they, like many couples, are very affectionate and she was simply out with her boyfriend, his family, and her friends. I don't like watching people make out in a restaurant or anywhere either, but I usually just mind my own business. They are not the first and will not be the last. Besides she has been pretty discreet this is the first time anyone has photographed her and Harry together.

Really I think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. They were on vacation together and happened to be outside where people took photos. It is not a crime. What are they supposed to sit holed up inside their apartments so no one can see them?

 

[Grandma828]

My gut is telling me that this relationship is further along then we knew. Being in a war zone would be sure to mature Harry. I hope they are both at the same stage. It will be interesting to watch.

 

[Biri]

Has he already found the one...?

I wish him all the best!

 

[Anna Catherine]

They have been linked since last year so who knows. If he does marry her, I think this is still a few years out. In the mean time, I'm waiting for Dave to propose to Beatrice.

 

[cepe]

My gut is telling me that this relationship is further along then we knew. Being in a war zone would be sure to mature Harry. I hope they are both at the same stage. It will be interesting to watch.

I wouldn't take that as a given. I think he still has some growing up to do.

 

[Dman]

I think the marriage talk for Harry should slow down. I see the media already mentioning wedding bells. Don't see him rushing into anything.

 

[Mermaid1962]

This is his second time returning from a war zone. There was a fair bit of immaturity displayed between the first time in Afghanistan and the second time.

 

[Anna Catherine]

I'm starting to wonder if the immaturity is just Harry being...well...Harry.

 

[Tiggersk8]

They have been linked since last year so who knows. If he does marry her, I think this is still a few years out. In the mean time, I'm waiting for Dave to propose to Beatrice.

As I said last night, time will tell, but in the meantime Harry and Cressida look like they're having a good time together, they like one another obviously, the rest will happen if it happens. However, I also have a feeling before 2013 is over and done, we will be getting excited about a Wedding in the House of Windsor and it'll be the two in the bolded up there.

 

[Anna Catherine]

As I said last night, time will tell, but in the meantime Harry and Cressida look like they're having a good time together, they like one another obviously, the rest will happen if it happens. However, I also have a feeling before 2013 is over and done, we will be getting excited about a Wedding in the House of Windsor and it'll be the two in the bolded up there.

If you are right, I will give you a big, fat kiss...through the computer. LOL

 

[Avicenna]

Or...maybe they, like many couples, are very affectionate and she was simply out with her boyfriend, his family, and her friends. I don't like watching people make out in a restaurant or anywhere either, but I usually just mind my own business. They are not the first and will not be the last. Besides she has been pretty discreet this is the first time anyone has photographed her and Harry together.

Really I think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. They were on vacation together and happened to be outside where people took photos. It is not a crime. What are they supposed to sit holed up inside their apartments so no one can see them?

Anna Catherine,

no harm intended. Of course it is no crime. But bad taste IMHO, if it occurs in a public place during the birthday celebration of someone senior to you. At least I have been brought up this way. Maybe old-fashioned. I wouldn't have minded the two having fun, if it was just another evening out there.

Also it seems to me as if the initiative in the restaurant came from the lady (by sitting on Harry) and this makes me wonder, if she wanted him to force him to comply. Not sure about the whole thing. Just makes me wonder. At the end of the day I hope that these two people take their time and don't act too quickly.

Best regards ...
(edited for omission)

 

[Anna Catherine]

Anna Catherine,

no harm intended. Of course it is no crime. But bad taste IMHO, if it occurs in a public place during the birthday celebration of someone senior to you. At I have been brought up this way. Maybe old-fashioned. I wouldn't have minded the two having fun, if it was just another evening out there.

Also it seems to me as if the initiative in the restaurant came from the lady (by sitting on Harry) and this makes me wonder, if she wanted him to force him to comply. Not sure about the whole thing. Just makes me wonder. At the end of the day I hope that these two people take their time and don't act too quickly.

Best regards ...

I was not worried or upset and honestly I was brought up the same way and agree. I just know that some people are a little more publicly open about their affection for each other. I just don't want us to see anything bad about a situation that is not any different from any number of other couples.

I apologize if I offended you or seemed like I was attacking you.

 

[AfricanAUSSIE]

Clearly, this public outing is no accident. They must have decided on this "outing". I wonder if it was designed as a message to those of us who were still rooting for Chelsy Davy. This outing states she is firmly in the past.

Prince Harry to meet Cressida Bonas's family as he flies to South Africa for her sister's wedding - Telegraph

If he is up to meeting her parents he would want to show his commitment to Cressida to the world. There is Chelsy Davy and Vegas to "put to bed". IMO, it is a good marketing/sales step to take. Her parents may feel more at ease, but in my mind, there are still issues with the fact that he did do nude with other women whilst he was dating her. Than again, the same commitment issues happened with Kate and now she is a Duchess and as yet, Will has not been seen to have put a foot wrong in that department.

 

[Kataryn]

Also it seems to me as if the initiative in the restaurant came from the lady (by sitting on Harry) and this makes me wonder, if she wanted him to force him to comply. Not sure about the whole thing. Just makes me wonder. At the end of the day I hope that these two people take their time and don't act too quickly.

Best regards ...
(edited for omission)

There are restaurants and restaurants... some more formal, others more casual in club style with chairs more like settees that easily sit two and are made by purpose that way. Don't know that restaurant where they were but "sitting on his lap" could be constructed by the paper.

 

[cepe]

There are real negatives coming out in some of the posts, from Harry wanting to pay her back for some perceived slight (by the poster) to Cressida trying to force Harry to comply. What????

They like each other and are having a good time, he is meeting her parents because they will all be at the wedding. It doesn't look like its a formal meeting.

Wht not just enjoy the fact that he's having a good time?

 

[AfricanAUSSIE]

Just to back up my earlier post:

'The fact Prince Harry put on a public display of affection with Cressida appears to send clear signals that he is ready to show his seriousness about their relationship."

Perhaps the author read my post??

Read more: Chelsy Davy hits the town after ex Prince Harry goes public with new girlfriend Cressida Bonas | Mail Online

 

[Anna Catherine]

Just to back up my earlier post:

'The fact Prince Harry put on a public display of affection with Cressida appears to send clear signals that he is ready to show his seriousness about their relationship."

Perhaps the author read my post??

Read more: Chelsy Davy hits the town after ex Prince Harry goes public with new girlfriend Cressida Bonas | Mail Online

I swear the press read people's comments on here! I've read a number of articles (all full of speculation and other made up mess) that say the exact same thing as people on here almost down to the wording or the same wording. Ridiculously. What does hat say about their originality and authenticity. At least do your own research!

 

[Anna Catherine]

Kate's there as we predicted. Prinz William & Kate (schwanger) sind in Arosa (Schweiz) - Fotos The article says William and Harry are there too, but only pics of Kate so far

So there are reports that Harry is in Switzerland attending a friends wedding with William and Kate. Laura Bechtolsheimer and Mark Tomlinson are the friends names. It is at the Arosa resort in the Swiss mountains.

 

[Lee27]

Isn't Mark Tomlinson the son of their father's good friend, Patti?

 

[cepe]

no.

Mark Tomlinson is the son of Claire and Simon, who are friends of Charles and who own the Beaufort Polo Club. Mark is a polo friend of William and Harry.

Not to be confused with the Palmer-Tomkinsons, and Patti.

I'm getting a tad confused cos this is being discussed on up to 3 threads!

 

[Anna Catherine]

no.

Mark Tomlinson is the son of Claire and Simon, who are friends of Charles and who own the Beaufort Polo Club. Mark is a polo friend of William and Harry.

Not to be confused with the Palmer-Tomkinsons, and Patti.

I'm getting a tad confused cos this is being discussed on up to 3 threads!

My apologies. I figured since Harry is there as well, I might as well move the story over here as well.

By the way, how do you lovely people no all this info. I'm flabbergasted, flabbergasted, I tell you!
:0

 

[cepe]

THat's ok - its just that I couldn't rmember what had been asked where, and where to post the response.

Glad to help

 

[Anna Catherine]

http://www.gq.com.au/life/people/galleries/prince+harry,23342

I found the link to this article through the HuffintonPost article here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/03/01/prince-harry-gq-cover_n_2792444.html

 

[Lumutqueen]

That photo is so edited it looks like the waxwork of Henry. Really wish they wouldn't do that.