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Old 08-24-2010, 03:47 AM
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I would be glad if anyone really into royal affairs would venture an opinion on why William hasn't socialized much on the Continent. It was only a hundred years ago that most of European aristocracy was literally one big happy/unhappy afterall ... with the British Royal Family as the lynchpin more or less.

Basically after World War One George V encouraged his children to be British first and foremost and to look to Britian for their spouses and this has continued into the present reign. Since George V there have been 10 children of monarchs - 1 didn't marry (John), 2 married foreign royals - Duke of Kent and Queen Elizabeth, 1 married an American and 6 married British partners (8 if you include Charles and Anne having had two marriages) so it is clear that the British royal family are looking to build ties in Britain rather than with foreigners.
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Maybe he'll get out and about (and not at Boujis) over the next few years.

Charles, in comparison, has been the heir from a young age and as such, had significantly more royal duties, engagements and as a consequence more continental ties and relationships. Of course in the end it didn't matter because he married as Earl Spencer said 'a very British girl.'
If you look, William hasn't been out clubbing for weeks.

Also Charles had to do more engagements, had to make continental ties, he is the heir to the throne, whereas William and his brother have the ability to relax.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:52 AM
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If you look, William hasn't been out clubbing for weeks.

Also Charles had to do more engagements, had to make continental ties, he is the heir to the throne, whereas William and his brother have the ability to relax.
I wasn't trying to insult PW. I have no problem with young people going out and having fun with their mates. He outgrew it at an appropriate time. I was just trying to be humorous. I apologise if this offended you.

I agree PW was and is not the immediate heir. (Unlike the critics, I don't believe he needs to be doing more engagements). I was just pointing out that those exact very valid differences were likely contributory. No swipe at all. I love PW and am happy he has been able to have more time for himself and doing sometime he loves, SAR.

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Basically after World War One George V encouraged his children to be British first and foremost and to look to Britian for their spouses and this has continued into the present reign. Since George V there have been 10 children of monarchs - 1 didn't marry (John), 2 married foreign royals - Duke of Kent and Queen Elizabeth, 1 married an American and 6 married British partners (8 if you include Charles and Anne having had two marriages) so it is clear that the British royal family are looking to build ties in Britain rather than with foreigners.
Thank you!
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:10 PM
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Although I think it is easier to with someone from an aristocratic background, I don't think it needs to be 'royalty'. I also think that poor William has not been given the opportunity to socialize on the continent and befriend enough of the young royals/aristos...allowing him to perhaps meet someone 'simpatico' in a relaxed or social setting. I, however, see him with a British bride or someone from a current or former Commonwealth nation.

Just my opinion.
Precisely! William and Henry need to put it out there in the Continental Royal houses (Protestant only please - hence North German or Dutch circles (or Scandinavian)).
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:14 AM
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The Princess Theodora of Greece looked quiet lovely at the Greek wedding. Its a shame we couldn't get William over there. I know he has a girlfriend but there is always hope.
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:23 AM
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I think that also Isabella Amaryllis Charlotte Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe would be a better choice than Kate,but as I read somewhere she declined Prince William...
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:27 AM
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The Princess Theodora of Greece looked quiet lovely at the Greek wedding. Its a shame we couldn't get William over there. I know he has a girlfriend but there is always hope.
My hope would be, if not Kate.....

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Old 08-27-2010, 08:29 AM
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I think that also Isabella Amaryllis Charlotte Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe would be a better choice than Kate,but as I read somewhere she declined Prince William...

When you say declined... are you impleying that he made an offer???? I never heard of this when would he have time to he been with Kate for so long... it must have been when he was very young.....
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If not Kate I think Isabella and Madeline are a little glam for William. I think William expressed interest in Isabella before attending college if I recall correctly. Either way it was Pre Kate.

He seems to like a simple girl who is pretty and quiet.
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Too good to be true ;-(
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:31 AM
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Wow full name, she's dating Sam Branson at the moment.
I think Madeleine would be okay for Harry but not William, Maddie IMO wouldn't like the responsible with being a Queen, she would just like being Queen.


Hello! created an article in 2007 I think which gave us a list of "Ladies In Waiting For Wills" the list includess

Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe = They apparently met 2002ish thanks to her brother Jacobi who plays Polo with William, she's been out of the seen since she was dating Sam Branson.

Emma Tomlinson = Her parents are next door neighbours to Prince Charles at Highgrove, never really serious but she's someone who knows where she would belong.

The Honourable Alexandra Knatchbull = One of Diana's goddaughters, known William all her life, her father is one of Williams godparents. Apparently Charles has a soft spot for her. (Also says that Charles proposed to her Aunt, Amanda in 1979)

Arabella Musgrave = Apparently William's first serious girlfriend in 2001, from the "country set".

Holly Branson = Known the prince since childhood, was crowned the winner of A Wife For William in 2004.

Jecca Craig = Always a close friend, apparently there was a pretend engagement in 2003, recently broke off her engagement.

Lady Rosanagh Innes-Ker = I don't think she has ever met the Prince, but she was a bridesmaid at the wedding of Sarah and Andrew I think.

Natalie Hicks-Lobbecke = Pictures were taken of the pair in 2000, she was the first girl "on the scene" and the remained friends when at uni, Natalie worked for the Countess of Wessex at one point.

We can add Princess Madeleine and Princess Theodora to the mix.
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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How many cousins removed is Theodora from William????
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Let's see:

Victoria > Edward > George > George > Elizabeth > Charles > William

Victoria > Victoria > Sophie > Fredericka > Constantine > Theodora

Is that right? Did I miss anyone?
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Just looking but shouldn't it be

Victoria > Victoria > William > Fredericka > Constantine > Theodora?
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:13 AM
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No. Victoria, the Princess Royal was the mother of Sophie and William. William was the Kaiser and Sophie married the King of the Hellenes.
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I was just looking at Frederika's ancestry and her grandfather was William so I wondered which way it worked.
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Victoria > Edward > George > George > Elizabeth > Charles > William

Victoria > Victoria > Sophie > Fredericka > Constantine > Theodora

Is that right? Did I miss anyone?
Yes you missed the Greek connection (Prince Philip)

King George of Greece - Andrea - Prince Philip - Charles - William
King George of Greece - Kostantin I - Pavlos - Kostantin II - Theodora
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:21 AM
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Yes...I was doing it strictly from the Victoria side.

I knew that they were also related on the Greek side but I wasn't too familiar with that side. Thank you!

Lumutuqueen....Sophie's great grandfather was William I, the Kaiser is the 2nd. Fredericka's maternal grandparents were Victoria and the late Emperor Frederick.
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Ans we also have the "danish connection"

Christian IX - Alexandra - George V - George VI - Elisabeth -Charles - William
Christian IX - King George of Greece - Kostantin I - Pavlos - Kostantin II - Theodora
Christian IX - Frederik VII - Christian X - Frederik IX - Anna Maria - Theodora
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:46 AM
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Yes, the Danish connection! Goodness they are related many times over. Is that it? There might be one more.
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