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Old 03-01-2009, 07:59 PM
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Paris Hilton to become Princess Henry of Wales God forbid!

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Perfect royal match does not guarantee perfect marriage, although it is very fairy tale. I don't know a lot about Theodora, what kind of personality she has. Regarding Greece government, hm mm..., I think that Greece being republic for so long they really don't care.
I know, it's entirely possible that William and Theodora can't stand each other, but we can't know that for sure so we should put it aside. The reason I mentioned the Greek government is that they could be offended by the marriage of the future British head of state to a daughter of the man who claims to be the rightful head of state of Greece. It doesn't make sense to us, but we all remember that the President of Greece didn't attend The Prince of Wales's first wedding because Constantine II was invited as King of the Hellenes.
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:53 PM
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"Peasant" has a more derogatory connotation than "commoner." Perhaps you weren't aware of that.

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Wikipedia is not the only source which gives the definition of the term commoner. Others include Peerage - Everything on Peerage (information, latest news, articles,...) and even the parliament's page http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib...snpc-02666.pdf. The latter says:
"Under this ancient procedure, all persons, whether peers or commoners, may be prosecuted and tried by the two Houses for any crimes whatever"; "If the accused is a peer, he is attached by order of that House. If a commoner, he is arrested by the Commons and delivered to Black Rod." William is neither peer nor sovereign, therefore he is a commoner, just like The Princess Royal and York girls. I hope that the parliament site's "credentials on the use of Cmmoner in England" are good enough to satisfy your criteria.

Once again, I used the term "peasant" precisely because it is comic and because I couldn't use the term "commoner". I am really surprised that someone actually thinks that I considered The Duchess of Cornwall a peasant



For the same reason everyone else is posting here and in threads such as "Possible names for Marie and Joachim's baby": fantasies and wishes. We all know that William won't marry someone just because we want it, but some fantasies can't hurt anyone. Besides, this place is for discussions and I don't see anything bad in discussing who would be a good wife and consort for William.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:07 AM
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Prince William & Princess Theodora would make for a great couple in a fantasy movie fairytale version of the royal family, definitely. And if this were 1809 or even 1909, I have a feeling they'd probably already be married. But we've all seen in the last thirty years how crucial it is for a modern-day royal to marry for love and genuine companionship rather than to fit a profile of the "correct" royal bride.

Good lord, though, that would be quite a wedding, wouldn't it? I can only imagine what Princess Marie Chantal would wear to the Abbey...
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:00 AM
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There is no need to be so rude to Kotroman who is just indulging in some light chat.
And yes, William is a commoner in the strict definition of the term.
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But we've all seen in the last thirty years how crucial it is for a modern-day royal to marry for love and genuine companionship rather than to fit a profile of the "correct" royal bride.
Andrew and Sarah married for love and it was a disaster. There have also been love marriages in other European royal houses that have not been successful (Joakim, Elena, etc.). The new crop of crown princes marriages are too recent to really make a call.
Marrying for love does not guarantee success: most people do marry for love and yet look at the divorce rates. And that's not even taking into account the amazing amount of pressure a royal life puts on a marriage.

By all mean, William should marry someone he loves and trust. But he shouldn't marry only for love imo and keep in mind crown and country as well.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:27 AM
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Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson also married for love Seriously, love is important even though some love marriages don't work out. I agree with Idriel completely: the kingdoms before love. That's one of the sacrifices a prince has to make as opposed to so many prerogatives.

I can't explain why, but Princess Theodora seems much better for the role of princess and queen than Catherine Middleton... perhaps because she is already a princess and doesn't resemble Paris Hilton in any way

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Good lord, though, that would be quite a wedding, wouldn't it? I can only imagine what Princess Marie Chantal would wear to the Abbey...
Just imagine all the members of the royal families of the United Kingdom, Greece and Denmark entering the Abbey. It would be a large family reunion, international event, a fashion show (Marie-Chantal ), and so much more.

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"Peasant" has a more derogatory connotation than "commoner." Perhaps you weren't aware of that.
Once again, I couldn't use the word "commoner" and I had no idea that the word "peasant" is so offensive
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:03 AM
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let me add my two cents. Another example of recent royal marriage for love and ended with divorce Joachim and Alexandra in Denmark.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:16 AM
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Let's leave out the commoner debate. We went down this road a few months ago with anger and hurt feelings.

Have fun with the bride speculation though!
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Haha! Could you imagine the Queens reaction when she found out Prince Harry wanted to marry Paris Hilton!
Surely Charles would aceede that day

Maybe Henry could "help" daddy out by doing so....
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:24 AM
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By all mean, William should marry someone he loves and trust. But he shouldn't marry only for love imo and keep in mind crown and country as well.
I agree with you there!! Love is a factor among other factors.

One of the most important factors for any marriage is to KNOW in your very skin that it is going to be hard work. If you are prepared for that and totally willing to accept that, it's half the battle. Then the couple needs also to let go of their selfish single ways, because selfishness is one of the biggest killers of marriages. ....... well, it also can kill friendships...... or any relationship for that matter. I like to think of it like this: "It's not all about me, as there is another person involved here too!"
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Old 03-16-2009, 01:07 PM
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How about Charlotte Casiraghi for Harry? I think they'd be quite the couple.
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How Charlotte Casiraghi for Harry? I think they'd be quite the couple.
I never thought of that. They would make rather a good pairing i think :)
And Prince William and Princess Madeline would be good i believe.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:35 PM
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I always thought that if Charlotte would end up with a British royal it should be Harry.
Harry is fun-loving, loves horses, is bright, handsome (Unlike William). I think that match could work.
Not William and Charlotte. I feel Charlotte is way out of William' league(She would outshine him with her beauty). William seems to be the opposite from Harry, a whole lot more serious. Also I think the role of queen isn't for Charlotte. Maybe for princess Madeleine.

Prince William & Princess Madeleine
Prince Harry & Charlotte Casiraghi.

Doesn't sound that bad, doesn't it ladies (and gentlemen)
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If only William and Harry started mixing with the same circles as Madeleine and Charlotte anything is possible! Does anyone know if William and Harry are friendly or socialise with other young royals from Europe or further afield? I'm sure being closeted up with the London set all the time isn't good for them!
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1. Prince William of Wales and Princess Madelaine of Sweden could be a great couple, but they would not be allowed to marry because Princess Madelaine would lose her succession rights (and line of succession to the Swedish throne is too short already)

2. Prince Henry of Wales and Miss Charlotte Casiraghi could marry only if she would renounce her Catholic faith and I doubt that will happen because she is going to become a Princess of Monaco if her mother ascends the throne like I hope she will

I'm still for Prince William of Wales and Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark, for the same reasons listed on the previous page...
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:16 PM
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If only William and Harry started mixing with the same circles as Madeleine and Charlotte anything is possible! Does anyone know if William and Harry are friendly or socialise with other young royals from Europe or further afield? I'm sure being closeted up with the London set all the time isn't good for them!
If I remember correctly, we've seen the York girls out with some German princes (from the Thurn und Taxis family, maybe?), but not William and Harry. William is the godfather to one of Prince Pavlos of Greece's children, but I can't recall hearing about him socializing with many European royals.
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1. Prince William of Wales and Princess Madelaine of Sweden could be a great couple, but they would not be allowed to marry because Princess Madelaine would lose her succession rights (and line of succession to the Swedish throne is too short already)
Why would Madelaine loose her succesion rights?
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:07 PM
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Because people in the line of succession to the Swedish throne are not allowed to marry foreign dynasts. Today, personal union between culturally different kingdoms is not welcome as it was many centuries ago, so a woman who is third in line for the Swedish throne probably wouldn't keep her succession rights if she decided to marry a man who is second in line for the British throne.
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Has anyone mentioned this great combination: Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark becoming Princess William of Wales It would be great! Why?
I agree with you, Prince William and Princess Theodora could be a great couple. Besides Theodora was born in Britain and speaks English better than Greek. She has a great pedigree, daughter of the King of Greece, niece of the Queen of Denmark and also of the King of Spain. Britain would have again the best pedigree of all European Monarchies.
I'm sure the media would respect Theodora as she is already a Princess. I still remember that before Prince Felipe married Letizia, the media respect the SRF, but after marring a commoner, they started criticizing the new couple and all the Royal family.
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If I remember correctly, we've seen the York girls out with some German princes (from the Thurn und Taxis family, maybe).
I think you're referring to Count Nikolai von Bismarck, born 1986. He is a friend of Princess Beatrice and took her 18th birthday photo - see story.
Count Nikolai is also a friend of Pricess Eugenie - see photo.
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Yes, that's the one I was thinking of. Thanks, Warren!
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