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Old 12-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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Playing the fantasy ... I think Prince and Princess Michael can (1) give particular pieces of those Kent jewels to Lady Gabriella as a part of her dowry, thereby returning something to the Crown collection; and (2) do what they want with the rest (e.g., leave something for Lord Frederic's wife or sell, if necessary).
I wonder what in term of their own jewels Her Majesty's daughters-in-law (late Diana, Princess of Wales; Duchess of Cornwall; Countess of Wessex) brought as a part of their dowry.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:24 PM
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Didn´t the Duchess of Windsor give something to Princess Alexandra or one of the Kents? That would be a nice "fantasy" addition to our "fantasy" dowry.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:55 PM
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I don't know if Prince William would want an older lady when he is old.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:45 PM
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It is true that the official position means that the monarch and future monarchs are expected to set an example. I don't pretend to know what the Queen's personal feelings are, but certainly her official position has to be prejudiced in favor of the Anglican faith. That said, I like that Prince Charles made an attempt to change that expectation. With the diminishing of Anglican numbers, it strikes me as appropriate for the monarch to be Defender of Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim subjects as well as the minority of Anglican subjects.
Strikes me that a King should be defender of all his people, not just the religious ones. The trouble here is that Defender of the Faith is just a title that goes with his position as Supreme Governor of the established church (or at least it will when he's king). This "defender of faiths" thing seems to be a freelance invention of his, and it's dowright insulting to those of us who don't have any religious faith.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:48 PM
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I don't know if Prince William would want an older lady when he is old.
Social research has shown that those men who tend to prefer "older" women stay true to them, as the ladies age/gain experience in the same measurement steps as them, so this is no point that influences the relationship very much.

But there's the other extreme: men who prefer young ladies. They tend to look out for the same "model" but younger when their lady grows up next to them.

And there's a lot in-between...
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:03 PM
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Didn´t the Duchess of Windsor give something to Princess Alexandra or one of the Kents? That would be a nice "fantasy" addition to our "fantasy" dowry.
Indeed she did! She received a beautiful cabochon ruby cherries brooch that I cannot find a picture of--but it is something. I think there were some earrings as well. Apparently, Wallis wanted to give Marie-Christine a wedding gift because Prince Michael was the only one who had ever really been nice to her and the Duke--that's what I heard, anyway.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:14 AM
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Indeed she did! She received a beautiful cabochon ruby cherries brooch that I cannot find a picture of--but it is something. I think there were some earrings as well. Apparently, Wallis wanted to give Marie-Christine a wedding gift because Prince Michael was the only one who had ever really been nice to her and the Duke--that's what I heard, anyway.
Thats right, I have read something similar as well. I also think that Marie-Christiane was told never to wear the jewels she received from the Duchess of Windsor in the presence of the Queen and the Queen Mother.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:24 AM
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I think the Duchess of Windsor´s jewellery is a very touchy subject with the BRF.
There was so much speculation about where the stones originally came from as well, but in our fantasy dowry the rubies will looks beautiful.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:28 AM
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I think the Duchess of Windsor´s jewellery is a very touchy subject with the BRF.
There was so much speculation about where the stones originally came from as well, but in our fantasy dowry the rubies will looks beautiful.
There might be the odd cabouchon emerald that I would quite like to see returned to the royal collection.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:35 AM
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I wonder what in term of their own jewels Her Majesty's daughters-in-law (late Diana, Princess of Wales; Duchess of Cornwall; Countess of Wessex) brought as a part of their dowry.
I can't remember what Diana brought with her, but Camilla had a few pieces. It is diffcult to tell how much of this was actually her own inherited (some pieces clearly were), and what pieces were presents from Charles over the years.

1) Pearl choker with the large acquamarine, or acquamarine like stone
2) Pearl choker with smaller dark stone (dark amethyst?)
3) Single string of pearls
4) Diamond earrings (worn at church blessing at their wedding)
5) Diamond tiara, worn by Camilla at her wedding to APB.
6) "Daisy" diamond set, in yellow gold
7) Turquoise "set"
8) Serpent diamond necklace - rumoured to be a gift from Charles
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:37 AM
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As much as I would love to talk jewels all day with you ladies, could we get back on topic please?
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:53 AM
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Strikes me that a King should be defender of all his people, not just the religious ones. The trouble here is that Defender of the Faith is just a title that goes with his position as Supreme Governor of the established church (or at least it will when he's king). This "defender of faiths" thing seems to be a freelance invention of his, and it's dowright insulting to those of us who don't have any religious faith.
You're completely right. I can't agree more that the monarch has to represent everyone. Nevertheless, it was a nice thought of the Prince. It certainly was an invention by him, but a well-meaning one.

To the person who brought up Princess Michael's jewels: I understand she wears at least two tiaras?? I presume Gabriella would wear one of them on her wedding day??

well, as much as I like Lady Ella (I think she is a very skilled writer as well as beautiful and seems so sweet and all that) I confess my true "fantasy" wife for William at least is Jessica Craig. Sorry that my preference does not satisfy those who want a royal or at least aristocratic bride for him.
That said, let me now chastise myself for having the presumption to pick a bride for William. It's a horrible little game we have going here, isn't it?
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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It´s fantasy so we can pick whomever we like. BTW did Ella write a book? I thought it was only her mother.
Cate Blanchet (is there another te?) made a terrific Queen Elizabeth she would definitely look regal on the throne. Has anyone remarked on how like Kate Middleton Natalie Portman looks, I was quite taken aback at her in some of the scenes from The Other Boleyn Girl.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:47 AM
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as long as they avoid cousins, I'm fine with mostly anyone.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:41 PM
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It´s fantasy so we can pick whomever we like. BTW did Ella write a book? I thought it was only her mother.
Cate Blanchet (is there another te?) made a terrific Queen Elizabeth she would definitely look regal on the throne. Has anyone remarked on how like Kate Middleton Natalie Portman looks, I was quite taken aback at her in some of the scenes from The Other Boleyn Girl.
Yes, about the "horrible game" the good news is that William could not care less about our presumptions about him. So I guess he does not care how "naughty" we are. I haven't seen the Other Boleyn movie yet but it is in my netflix queue so it's only a matter of time. It didn't occur to me about the resemblance of NP and KM but now that you mentioned it, I will look for it when the time comes.

Oh, I forgot about your question about Ella. I do not know if she wrote a book or is writing a book. But I was talking about her articles. As far as I know she is freelance though she is a contributing editor?? for Tatler, she has written for Daily Mail and others. See ellawindsor.com
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:00 PM
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Thanks I will be looking at the ellawindsor site. Now who have we left for our fantasy? As a cousin once told my eldest son "all the good ones go fast" but as it is a horrible fantasy it doesn´t matter if they are free to marry or not.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:09 PM
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Talk about naughty!!!! Married women???!!!!

Charlotte Casiraghi would be such a beautiful Queen of the UK but I doubt she and William would ever go for each other like that. I think she is too classy for him? Then there is the Queen thing. She's beautiful, but personally she would likely be a sulky queen consort, and as William is almost always moody, together they might be downright depressing to look at. On the other hand, with Kate, she's always smiling and he's always glum, so they kind of balance out as a couple. LOL
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:11 PM
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.... though we still do not know if Kate is still in the running.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:55 PM
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Muriel, you can´t have a real girlfriend as a fantasy! Or perhaps she is no longer the girlfriend and we can fantasize about her. I would prefer to find someone else but they are proving a bit hard to find, perhaps all the pretty girls of his age are being hidden away in their family mansions....
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:31 PM
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Charlotte would be the most perfect candidate...she adds something completely different and exotic. Although the British press was surprisingly snobby toward her that one time she was brought up in that "potential next girlfriend for William" article...they called her euro-trash!
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